James Carville Has Had It With Democratic Whiners

[babylonsister]

https://crooksandliars.com/2022/04/james-carville-has-had-it-democratic

James Carville Has Had It With Democratic Whiners
"If we can't stand in there for Joe Biden and talk about the great things he's done, then we don't deserve to win this election in 2022," the Democratic strategist said.
By Susie Madrak — April 14, 2022


Stephanie Ruhle wanted to ask James Carville why Joe Biden isn't more popular.

"James, last night I talked to a strategist who said Democrats are going into the midterms disappointed because Joe Biden hasn't gotten much done," she said.

"But the thing is, he's gotten a lot done! He just had a Supreme Court justice on the bench, he passed the American Rescue Plan. The largest infrastructure law, comprehensive vaccine rollout, and our economy, while complicated, is in recovery. There's a lot of great things. Do Democrats need to do a lot of a better job selling these wins?"

"Thank you. You know, some Democrats need to shut up and quit saying that the president has not done anything, because he has done a lot," Carville said.

"If you look at his approval rating just among Democrats, it's 15 to 20 points below where it should be. And a lot of that is about the yapping that comes from Democrats telling other Democrats that Joe Biden hasn't done anything for you. When, in fact, if you are an hourly worker, and you have a child you are raising in poverty, Joe Biden has done more for you than anybody else has ever done for you.

"You look at this outstanding Supreme Court justice, look at the contempt and disrespect and how ill-mannered they went towards her. If you're a Democrat, I don't care what you are with gender, race, if you don't see that and you are not outraged, and it doesn't make you want to vote, I can't do anything for you! You're just a whiny, complaining person.

"They're going to activate you and motivate you to go out and vote! You look around and you see the power that hourly workers have, the people we claim that we care about. You look at how much their lives improve, look at 2 million people, a Yale study today said 2 million lives were saved because of vaccine distribution that took place under the Biden administration. So this idea that he hasn't done anything in particular for anybody, it's insane, it's wrong. it's so wrong," he said.

"But why does it happen? Where does it come from? It makes no sense," Ruhle said.

"Because you get on television complaining that the president hasn't done anything for you, right?" Carville said. (Too true.)

"He's done a lot for the people that we as Democrats say that we care about. And look at the way that they are treating the now Justice Jackson. Look at what is going to happen in the Supreme Court. They are going to tap dance on your head. And they don't care, because they believe, and I hate to say it, they may be right, that the Democrats are a weak, lame party -- and that just may be it.

"If we can't stand in there for Joe Biden and talk about the great things he's done, then we don't deserve to win this election in 2022."

[Boomerproud]

1. I have my problems with Carville but he's painfully right about this.IMWO

[PatSeg]

2. He is a pragmatic and skillful politician

He is spot-on about this.

[Rebl2]

7. Yes he is

Not my favorite dem, but he is right on.

[PatSeg]

12. I know, I don't always agree with him,

but he sure knows how to get people elected. He can go up against republicans in messaging very effectively. There is no vague nuance with James Carville. I remember him from Crossfire years ago and he ate Tucker's lunch on a regular basis.

[Rebl2]

18. You are

right about that- him getting people elected.

[PatSeg]

24. And laughing at republicans while he does it

He is a political tactician. It's not like HE is running for office, so liking or agreeing with him isn't necessarily a big issue and I'm sure republican politicos hate him.

[certainot]

22. he's had a lot of opportunity to reverse the biggest political mistake in history - ignoring

the republican's only unique advantage - the 95% rw radio monopoly.

it's not - "the economy stupid", as he so famously said, it's how 1500 US corporate/ayn radian and kremlin think tanks use a few hundred repeating liars on 1500 coordinated radio stations to interpret the economy that matters.

right now they're driving the rest of the media with the national buzz dominating most of the country except the big cities and some college towns that prices are sky high and inflation is a disaster because of biden and the democrats.

so when:

Stephanie Ruhle wanted to ask James Carville why Joe Biden isn't more popular.

carville should be mentioning rw radio or he continues to fuck up

[JustAnotherGen]

25. I listen to left wing Radio

So does most of the base -places like Atlanta - hot spots for calling in.

And I noticed my beacon of light - Joe Madison - mentioned the need for us to invade right wing radio shows the same way their base does his.

Regardless - Carville is right. Regardless of Right Wing Radio which has been around since I was in high school. All that happened when Rush died is that it grew three heads.

[certainot]

38. sounds like you learned politics in the US where RW radio was well established and ubiquitous - and

taken for granted.

left wing radio is mom and pop vs walmart. it's great to hear atlanta's got some of it but did you know that in Ga fakenewsradio.org shows 14 xlimbaugh stations depend on students and ffaculty and athletes ignoring that their school athletes and community standing are being used to bring in advertising to sell republican fascism, lies, voter suppression, excuses for racism and gun violence, attacks on dems like stacy abrams, etc

GEORGIA 14 Georgia 7, Georgia Tech 5, Georgia Southern 2

maybe someone should mention that to joe madison before the midterms.....

you're right about rush's 600 stations getting split up between his students but i think without him that central messaging control that used to guide and police all 1500 rw stations is breaking up. the 3 main replacements, 2 on one show, do not have his clout and are poor subs - whiny idiots basically, nowhere near able to keep the GOP in line and sell the lying and rationalizing he could

[thesquanderer]

45. re: "carville should be mentioning rw radio or he continues to fuck up"

I was surprised to look it up and find that Sean Hannity reaches 4-5 times as many people every week on his radio show than he does on fox.

[certainot]

56. thanks for that perspective. yeah fox is a smaller player in all this but gets all the attention bec

because analysts like carvel with and read. then they go on msnbc etc....

fax has smaller audience, doesn't do politics all day, can't lie or get stupid or racist as radio, doesn't do the repetition, etc

on major factor is fox can't be locally coordinated like and avg of 30 radio stations per state can.

so the national blowhards like hannity and levin, who used to follow limbaugh, sell the big lies and set the parameters and the local blowhards repeat and follow the line while applying it to local people and candidates and issues and events. it has been massively successful for 30 years and people like carvel seem to have no clue.

the local blowhards used to get yelled at by the dittoheads who could never call limbaugh if they strayed off script (the dittohead effect) but i suspect some may be lost now not getting the expert 'subtle' attacks on democrats and rationalization and interpretation of events and now just want to kill us - limbaugh withdrawal might explain some of the extremism. they lost their guru and daily source of certitude and are now freaking out about all the uncertainty. they don't know what to think or say.

[HariSeldon]

85. To paraphrase not-Stalin*

It isn't the economy that matters, it's what people hear about the economy that matters.

* Apparently there is no credible source for Stalin ever uttering the comment about voters vs. vote counters.

[True Blue American]

79. Agree

Carville is responsible for electing Clinton.

[PatSeg]

80. Yes and it was a brilliant campaign

People can disagree with him about policy or ideology, but he knows how to win elections.

[True Blue American]

82. Remember

The Republican attacks on Clinton, constant investigation that turned up nothing Republicans carried on for years

Joe Scarborough was right in the midst of that. For some reason he now has a huge picture of Bill behind many of his guests.

Remember Joe Conason? Still my favorite journalist to this fray!

[PatSeg]

84. Oh yes, The Hunting of the President

Has any president ever been subjected to so many endless witch hunts? There is something really demented about the way republicans go after their adversaries, especially if they are popular and charismatic. It wasn't just politics, it was almost personal. They are the world's worst losers. They don't really care about anything as much as they care about winning.

[lagomorph777]

14. Yes, I'm afraid so.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

3. Child poverty isn't a great metric to be bragging on, though.

Once the child tax credit expired and Build Back Better stalled, kids who were lifted out of poverty were dropped right back into it. I get that Manchin has been the problem on that specific policy. One reason I voted for Biden was because I hoped he could back up his campaign claim, that he was one of the last politicians who still had enough bipartisan sway that he could truly get shit done. His best bet now, if he wants to carry Democrats through at least holding the line through midterms would be to sign some executive orders, including for the CTC.

[iemanja]

4. You voted for him because you believed he had "bipartisan sway"

You're a smart person. How could you possibly be so naive? There is no bipartisanship in DC anymore. Those days are long gone. That is basic.

[WhiskeyGrinder]

9. I'll be clear: I didn't believe he did, and didn't say I believed he did.

I *hoped* he could back up his claim in some kind of meaningful way. That doesn't mean I expected it, or believed he could.

[BannonsLiver]

8. You voted for him and haven't had a positive thing to say about him since.

He wasn’t your guy. You’re not a fan. Just say what you mean.

[SmallFry]

5. Love hate relationship with Carville.

Always worth listening to. Thanks for sharing and Biden and the democrats have done a lot of extremely good work.

[Baitball Blogger]

6. Finally. I agree with Carville.

"If we can't stand in there for Joe Biden and talk about the great things he's done, then we don't deserve to win this election in 2022."

[calimary]

54. Exactly Exactly EXACTLY! (The Updated List, as of 4/9/22):

And it’s NOT like he hasn’t generated good material for us to talk about!

Here's the most recent “ask” that I've been updating for weeks. My Indivisible group has already put it in our weekly Call to Action email at least twice:

It’s worth remembering: How much good President Biden has done, not just for America, but now also for the world
Calm and trustworthy leadership, and getting things done, are what every American wants from the President of the United States. President Joe Biden has more than met those expectations, but all too often, we only hear criticism and political baloney-slicing. From time to time, we need to stop and do a reality check of what Biden has done, and the positive difference he’s made in Americans’ lives. His decades of skills in working with Congress to help people, his sincerity, compassion, and inspirational character, should uplift everyone. As he said in last Saturday’s speech in Warsaw, Poland: “Time and again, history shows us, from the darkest moments the greatest progress follows.”
The list of his achievements, not only for the U.S. but now also for the world in a time of crisis, grows longer by the day, as he lives up to the term “Consoler-in-Chief”.
• Sent the right team to make sure Judge Ketanji Brown Jackson was confirmed as the first Black woman in history to become a Supreme Court Justice
• Chose an excellent and supremely-well-qualified Supreme Court nominee to replace the retiring Stephen Breyer
• United the NATO countries to stand firmly WITH Ukraine and AGAINST Russia’s horrifying aggression there
• Visited soldiers and civilians - many of them with their kids - setting a tone for solidarity, strength, and genuine compassion
• Signed $1.5 trillion omnibus bill
• Nominated the next Supreme Court Justice, Ketanji Brown Jackson
• Sanctioned Russia and its leaders
• Ukrainian relief aid as a result of Putin’s War
• Violence Against Women Act
• Increased funding for law enforcement agencies, both local and federal
• Fights fires with increased federal funding
• Increased funding for the climate change battle
• Rejoined the Paris Climate Accord
• Rejoined the World Health Organization
• Funded Advanced Research Projects Agency for Health, or ARPA-H
• Revived the economy at a record pace
• Drastically cut child poverty
• The American Rescue Plan
• Signed a 1.2-trillion-dollar infrastructure bill while others spent years talking about it but doing nothing about it
• Added almost a million new jobs to the economy
• Cut unemployment from 6.3% to 4.6%
• Revoked the permit for the XL pipeline
• Blocked drilling in Alaska’s precious Arctic National Wildlife Refuge
• Stopped issuing new oil and gas leases on public lands
• Invoked the Defense Production Act to speed up COVID vaccine and mask production
• Made COVID vaccines widely available and cost-free; 492 million doses given, 202 million of us now vaccinated (61.3% of the population)
• Ended the war in Afghanistan
• Expanded access to therapy and service dogs for Americans returning from Afghanistan
• Boosted funding for the Affordable Care Act
• Protected tens of thousands of aviation jobs
• Provided disadvantaged farmers with debt relief
• Canceled student loan debt for more than 300-thousand Americans with severe disabilities
• Canceled student debt for students of for-profit schools ·
• Free lunch for school children
• Pension relief
• Heating cost relief
• Ended the Trump roadblocks to families trying to help undocumented children
• Restored veterans funding for mental health
• Fair Housing for LGBTQ Americans
• Repealed ban on transgender troops
• Established Juneteenth as a federal holiday
• Appointed the most judges by any President since Reagan
• Signed a bill streamlining emergency support for US Capitol Police to prevent another Jan 6th
• Unemployment down to 3.8% - We hit that in record time, and Biden’s American Rescue Plan helped.
• U.S. today is experiencing a 5.5% growth in GDP - (Gross Domestic Product - a measure of our economy).
AND THAT’S NOT EVEN THE WHOLE LIST!

(Use one or more of the bullet points below to compose your message)

Sens. Merkley/Wyden, Reps. Blumenauer/Schrader. Hi. My name is _______ and I live in __________(include ZIP Code). Thank you for everything you do on behalf of Americans, but the bigger picture is even more important. We need to Thank the Heavens for our President!
·
• I’m calling to BEG my representatives to get out there and talk up President Biden! Let the public know how many good things this administration has brought us!
• We can’t count on the media to portray a fair and accurate assessment of President Biden’s accomplishments. They’re always looking for ways to accentuate the negative.
• Democrats need to get in front of the public EVERY DAY to remind them how they have benefitted from the President's policies. Where have you been lately? We need YOU out there!
• When you’re interviewed by the media, PLEASE remind Americans how their lives are better since President Biden took office.

https://www.latimes.com/opinion/story/2022-01-19/op-ed-one-year-presidency-biden - L.A. Times - One year in, Biden’s accomplishments have been shortchanged
https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2022/jan/19/joe-biden-first-year-press-conference-coronavirus - The Guardian - Joe Biden says his administration out-performed in first year
https://www.govexec.com/management/2022/03/10-major-takeaways-15-trillion-omnibus-spending-bill/362983/ Here Are 10 Major Takeaways From the $1.5 Trillion Omnibus Spending Bill
https://www.whitehouse.gov/briefing-room/statements-releases/2022/01/19/fast-facts-record-firsts-in-president-bidens-first-year/ - whitehouse.gov - Biden’s record of firsts in first year
https://capaction.medium.com/what-has-joe-done-for-me-lately-biden-administration-accomplishments-98c71f9ce2d8 - CAP Action - 100 accomplishments in 100 days: What’s Joe Biden done for me lately?

[SharonClark]

10. Some people have had it with Carville and his super PAC

An ad supporting Conor Lamb sparked a backlash for wrongly calling John Fetterman a ‘self-described democratic socialist’

A super PAC backing U.S. Rep. Conor Lamb’s Democratic campaign for Senate in Pennsylvania made its first real foray into the race this week — and it didn’t go well.

The group, Penn Progress, launched an attack ad that wrongly called Lt. Gov. John Fetterman, the Democratic front-runner, a “self-described democratic socialist,” drawing ire from national Democrats and rebukes from fact-checkers. Within a day of the ad airing, PolitiFact and Factcheck.org called it false, a Philadelphia TV station took it off the air, and Sen. Elizabeth Warren (D., Mass.) called on Lamb to disavow it.

Perhaps most alarming for Lamb, the campaign arm for Senate Democrats, which was already seen as likely to stay on the sidelines in the primary, signaled it won’t get involved in a race where Lamb badly needs to change the dynamic.

Taken together, the developments underscored how the window for Lamb, underfunded and behind in the polls, is closing fast ahead of the May 17 primary.
. . .
https://www.inquirer.com/politics/election/conor-lamb-super-pac-ad-john-fetterman-20220407.html

[JustAnotherGen]

26. I gave to that PAC

I believe in its work.

[gab13by13]

43. I gave to Fetterman, I believe in his work.

Can't wait to vote for him, if we ever get our absentee ballots. I was told by an election official not to worry the Pa. SC will overturn the state GQP's law banning no excuse absentee ballots.

[leftstreet]

11. lol "the power that hourly workers have"

He is so completely out of touch with reality, so far removed from the experiences of an "hourly worker" that he just can't be taken seriously.

LOL

[shrike3]

21. He may be referring to the recent vote to unionize by Amazon workers.

[Hekate]

35. Unions are back and Biden fully endorses that

That’s something

[True Blue American]

83. Yes!

[mcar]

13. Carville is 100% correct

[Poiuyt]

15. I think the Biden Administration needs to get its surrogates out there every day

to brag about what Biden and the Dems have done for America. And they can't rely on legislators because they have their own agenda. Biden and the DNC need to be proactive about this.

[wnylib]

40. YES! Absolutely true! Those Biden surrogates need to

Be speaking up every day about Biden's achievements.

While they're at it, they can point out how much more he can do without the obstructionists on the right. And name names. Say it bluntly, that we need more Democrats in offices at all levels - federal, state, and local - in order to get the things done that people want.

Don't pull any punches. Blunt and direct.

Our democracy depends on it.

[BumRushDaShow]

46. They are out "every day"

The VP was here in Philly at the Delaware River waterfront with the Secretary of Labor (Marty Walsh) meeting with union workers this past Tuesday -

Vice President Kamala Harris offers union support in Philadelphia visit


By Tom MacDonaldApril 12, 2022


Vice President Kamala Harris arrives to speak at the Metal Worker’s Local Union No. 19 in Philadelphia, Tuesday, April 12, 2022. (AP Photo/Matt Rourke)

A sun-drenched crowd of union workers greeted Vice President Kamala Harris Tuesday afternoon as part of a Philadelphia rally calling for new regulations to help American workers.

Speaking in the parking lot of the Sheetmetal Workers Union Hall in South Philadelphia, Harris announced the Occupational Health, and Safety Administration will start inspecting workplaces for heat issues that could impact workers.

“We’re going to make sure the workers out there receive all the protection they are entitled to receive,” Harris said. “It comes down to the dignity of work.”


Vice President Kamala Harris speaks at the Metal Worker’s Local Union No. 19 in Philadelphia, Tuesday, April 12, 2022. (Tom MacDonald/WHYY)

U.S. Labor Secretary Marty Walsh spoke of how workers in warehouses and those working on roofs are suffering heat-related issues due to climate change. He told those in attendance how the Biden-Harris Administration is working to implement new regulations to fight the problem. The regulations are not completely in place yet, Walsh said.

https://whyy.org/articles/vice-president-kamala-harris-offers-union-support-in-philadelphia-visit/

Did any of the so-called "cable news" outlets cover it? If not, then why not?

I expect that instead, it was only a "local story". Why? Because the "if it bleeds it leads" took over all the media attention (i.e., the horrific shooting in the NYC subway). But what did become a "big news" story here was the local traffic reports that were warning about "the motorcade".

This is why I say that wealthy liberals/progressives (and they DO exist) need to take some of their money to buy huge media outlets. The difference though is that liberals/progressives would rather spend their money to help people (giving to social services entities) vs the RW loons who spend their money to hurt people by buying the megaphone that helps them to gain more power.

[samsingh]

16. he is right, Biden has delivered a lot - but no one talks about it and he's not given credit

Democrats have to start talking up successes asap.

[treestar]

17. It's because of Republicans

Last edited Thu Apr 14, 2022, 12:07 PM - Edit history (1)

Why do democrats fail to realize that? Republicans never fail to support their candidates. They know the democrats will win if they don’t. Why do we whine so much and give in to Republican control because republicans block democratic bills !

[JustAnotherGen]

29. Not at DU - but we have a lot of Democrats

Politicians, Activists, Supporters in the Streets - that refuse to to stand up for Biden and any Democratic Elected Official who does not lock step with them.

It's not a lot - but they are loud and get a lot of air time.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

19. He should have fucked off about a decade ago.

Personally, I don't want to be part of a party that has to only say positive things about their President and can't say that somethings aren't so hot. Because that's basically Trump. So, no, James, fuck right off. You were relevant in the 90s, but it's 2022.

[RaDaR63]

27. He has a point, and every right to express it

but it's an attempt to heard cats.

[Cuthbert Allgood]

28. Of course he can express it. And I can tell him to fuck off.

So you have no problem with our party being one that never says anything bad about its President? Please differentiate that attitude from the Republicans to Trump.

[RaDaR63]

33. And anyone has the right to tell you the same

If you demand the right to undercut our elections, no one can stop you. We're facing some serious challenges come November. The more we can keep a positive message, the better.
But, you do you. You seem pretty angry, though. I hope things get better for you.

[Celerity]

50. herd

welcome to DU as well!

[RaDaR63]

67. I herd that

Thanks.

[EarlG]

34. That's not what he's saying though

Nowhere does he suggest that Democrats should only say positive things about Joe Biden. He's saying that too many Democrats are saying negative things about Joe Biden even though he has accomplished lots of positive things and it's fine to be positive about those things.

Focus on the negatives if you want, but in an important election year... why? There are positive things to talk about.

[stopdiggin]

66. there is an element of the 'perfect being enemy of the good'

and it's perhaps a good thing to be aware of, and guard against.

[treestar]

37. It is a matter of winning

No President can be perfect. You don’t have to harm our presidents chances of winning just to prove you are not a sheep. Letting Republicans win to prove that is dumb. Shoot self in foot and then complain about the pain.

[GoCubsGo]

20. That makes two of us, Mr. Carville. nt

[maxsolomon]

23. But he hasn't waved a magic wand and wiped out my Student Loan debt.

He promised! Vaguely, in a tweet I saw a tweet about!

He hasn't waved a magic wand and reversed the global inflation rate!

He hasn't waved a magic wand and forced gas prices down during a land war in Europe!

Therefore, I must take my ball and go home.

[PatSeg]

30. That pretty much sums it up

People often expect instantaneous results, sometimes right after a new president moves into the White House. A whole lot of unrealistic expectations out there.

[maxsolomon]

32. It's like they don't know how the Senate works.

Or forgot that Republics are MFers.

[PatSeg]

47. Oh yes, what really slays me

is when things don't improve rapidly, they turn around and vote for republicans after two years, as if that will be an improvement. Uninformed voters are truly terrifying. Besides being uninformed, they also tend to have very short memories.

Perhaps it is a symptom of our society. So many people expect instant gratification in all things.

[JustAnotherGen]

31. This but I call it

His magical pen.

[KPN]

36. I don't know. I think Carville's off base. Sure people wish that more would be done,

but I think most realize the reality. The only big exception among Dems that I see is with the student loan issue, and that is only because Biden has some perceived authority that he can wield independent of Congress to do something with student loans.

The real issue is the corporate media and its tendency to not just bugle Repuq complaints about Joe, but also attack Biden every chance they get. Face it, the corporate media is mostly conservative (even MSNBC to some extent) and refuses to pin blame regarding the economy and many other issues where it belongs, on the Repuqs and their failed policies which fail because they favor the wealthy, corporations and white males over everything else.

Don't blame Dems, blame the fucking fascists! Carville's the one who should stop criticizing and complaining. Geesh.

ps -- the media in some ways are like voters themselves; they tend to place blame on the President regardless of the causes of problems that face the country or globe at any particular time. The world and our nation are in a mess right now, we have a Democratic President, and the public and MSM blame whoever is "in charge. It's only natural that public opinion polls about Joe aren't higher. ..... But that doesn't mean we can't do something about that between now and November. Promote what has been done and graphically place blame where it truly belongs -- hammer the Rs.

[ymetca]

65. Carville's whining is indeed ironic

considering that he mostly whines about progressives, then complains when the neoliberals he supports aren't more popular.

He can join Manchin on his houseboat as far as I'm concerned.

[Hulk]

39. I'm hoping once the primaries wrap up...

... the Democratic Party Machine will gear up and start pummeling the airwaves with facts and information to build support for our candidates.

To spin the spin too early, the weak-minded easily distracted American public will be swayed by a barrage of misinformation waiting in the gQp closet. It wouldn't hurt to start pounding the message now.... but be aware, the fascist corporate machine is waiting to drown the airwaves come fall 2022.

[onecaliberal]

41. Democracy is over if people do not vote. If you can't see that I don't even know what to say.

[heckles65]

42. FDR in 1932-34 had sixty Democratic senators-

Sixty. Oh yes, out of 96.

I wish all those people who yammer about how they want Biden to be like FDR would keep that in mind.

[betsuni]

61. That and Republicans who still worried about being voted out of office so they actually

had to do their jobs. Why this is ignored I do not know. Chanting the magic letters FDR is supposed to be enough I guess.

Every time someone starts whining about Democrats being in power and Biden not doing enough, I want to scream 50-50 50-50 50-50.

[BobTheSubgenius]

44. Deserve it or not, Dems HAVE TO win it.

And I'd ask how the Rethugs deserve to win it.

[yardwork]

48. Carville is right but some Democrats are invested in their victomhood.

It's all or nothing for some. I think they prefer wallowing in misery.

[Samrob]

49. For quite a few Dems, Biden just isn't mean enough and he loves those"others" just a little too much

Some people just hate nice guys!

[llashram]

51. "Hear, hear" James

whiny little.......not accepted!

[Mad_Machine76]

52. I'm sick of them too

Especially those in Congress that could you know actually be passing bills and stuff. And I blame Sinema and Manchin for a lot of what didn't get done yet.

[Celerity]

53. Carville-I don't think this man (Merrick Garland) knows whether to wind his ass or scratch his watch

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100215944533

whining is in the eye of the beholder apparently

[progressoid]

59. +1

[KPN]

72. Apparently.

[Autumn]

81. Wow. I actually agree with that man for once. A message for me but not for thee. Obviously.

[Celerity]

86. I agreed with Carville there, just found it a bit hypocritical about his calling out 'whining' now,

plus some here say people who have any issues with the DoJ at all are whiners

[Autumn]

87. Yeah ironic considering his whining about Biden's DOJ.

Hold others to a standard that he thinks doesn't apply to him.

[Celerity]

88. I'm not a big 'omg, Garland is doing nothing!' person at all. I'm NOT happy with Alvin Bragg though

[Scrivener7]

55. As always with us, it comes down to messaging.

[Patton French]

57. Gotta love the Ragin' Cajun (n/t)

[BWdem4life]

58. I dunno. With me it's been an expectations kind of thing..

I expected a lot more from Obama, and he disappointed me.
I didn't expect so much from Biden, and he's greatly exceeded my expectations.



Either way, with the horrific things we can see coming our way, there should be no reason to "stay home" probably ever again. I think we'll see major turnout this fall - just a feeling.

[Novara]

60. It's not like the fucking media hasn't played a huge part

The goddamned media keeps both-sides-ing everything. The MEDIA isn't reporting on positives (man, we really need Eric Boehlert). They phrase every single thing as Dems in Disarray or Dems Disappointed with Biden.

If the media pointed out Biden's successes as much as their imagined Biden failures, we'd see his approval ratings go through the fucking roof.

It's all about perception - and in that, Carville is not wrong. But never discount the part the media is playing in this.

[867-5309.]

63. I whine about Joe not getting proper credit!

The media needs to do better.

[gulliver]

64. Biden is an outstanding President. We're extremely lucky to have him.

And Carville is exactly right. We need people to get a grip, stand their ground with Biden and the Dems, stifle any and all negativity, radiate confidence and good will, and vote. Anybody who doesn't, I have no time or sympathy for.

[BlueIdaho]

68. Like it or not

James Carville has been right more often than just about any other democratic analyst. I’m a fan, YMMV.

[TigressDem]

69. It's like women and minorities don't "do enough" even though they out perform most.

Democrats are supposed to clean up all the damage and make forward movement, but it's like expecting someone to build up the twin towers in the middle of a tornado.


Expectations are unrealistic and the Rethugs constantly criticize EVERYTHING Dems do no matter what it is. They talk out of both sides of their mouths so much, we Dems begin to believe we must be doing SOMETHING wrong so Biden as the top dog gets the blame.

AND the polls they take aren't reaching the actual strong DEMS who totally support Biden on principal.

[betsuni]

73. Always. And blaming Democrats for losing elections as if Republicans win because they

run fabulous candidates, perfect campaigns, totally have the best policies that don't ignore the working class. Absurd.

[summer_in_TX]

70. One of our weaknesses is that our candidates get nervous by polling like Biden's is.

So they don't want him campaigning with them, which sends the message that they're ashamed not proud of everything Joe has accomplished.

Dems did it to Obama too. The undermining of the president by the overwhelmingly negative media (with Fox and others in their orbit).

Dems need to absolutely celebrate and sell the accomplishments. Loud and proud. After all, the R's are lying and claiming they brought home the bacon for their districts when they voted against.

[wanda4rafi]

71. He also ended the longest war in US history and is keeping the Ukraine armed

and afloat after Trump refused to send the aid they needed without his quid pro quo.

[Mike Nelson]

74. Agree...

... the Biden Administration has accomplished a lot... and we see Republicans taking credit for things they voted against! They're better at celebrating Biden's achievements!

[betsuni]

75. Agree.

If Americans don't want a government that works for them so won't vote for Democrats, want Congress controlled by Republicans who have no policies and won't govern, nothing can be done about it. Next election after Biden's, a Republican will be elected. People are stupid. In 2016 idiots who voted for Trump or third parties thought the economy was terrible because the Obama administration was bad. Idiots.

[Emile]

76. Carville needs to stop whining about progressives and start pointing

his finger at who is causing this inflation! Right now Republicans are successfully pointing their finger at the wrong person.

[CrackityJones75]

77. Please, He is one of the biggest!

[DinahMoeHum]

78. In a nutshell: Gloat And Promote Biden's accomplishments. . .

. . .is what James Carville says Democrats should do.

[Autumn]

89. Who is this jackass talking about? Maybe he should make it clear. I have heard no Democrat

complaining about Biden not doing anything for people. I don't see students burdened with student loan complaining about him doing nothing for them. What I see is them asking that something be done about the predatory school loan system. I don't see any democrats treating Justice Jackson badly. Quite the opposite I see a lot of pride in her appointment. If he's complaining about young people he should STFU and sit down.

Young people showed up to kick Trumps ass out . Appreciation and respect is owed. All I see a whiny, complaining has been James Carville.
Guess what Carville. We have the highest inflation in decades corporate profits are the highest in decades. People are going to complain when they see obvious gouging going on and nothing done about it. The party is charge is going to get blamed. To quote him "It's the economy stupid."

[Midwestern Democrat]

90. I like Carville, but this is basically impotent whining - not offering any constructive ideas on how

to better the situation. I learned long ago in business - the customer is king - you may think they're wrong-headed or irrational, but if you want to stay in business, YOU adjust to THEM - if your attitude is "We're doing everything right and the customer is wrong", well, you simply go out of business.