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kentuck

(111,110 posts)
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 03:49 PM Apr 2022

I saw a video on the State News of Russia and they were very angry with the sinking of battleship.

It looked much like the discussions that can be seen on FOX News. They were loud and threatening.

They wanted the supply lines of US and NATO weapons cut off by Russian forces. They wanted attacks upon Kyiv. They wanted revenge. Some even suggested the use of nuclear weapons.

They were angry and embarrassed that their best battleship was sank. They demanded that Ukraine pay a price.

They were ready for war.

(I do not remember where I saw the video and do not have a link) It may have been on YouTube?

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I saw a video on the State News of Russia and they were very angry with the sinking of battleship. (Original Post) kentuck Apr 2022 OP
RT saying it was a "planned sinking" Nevilledog Apr 2022 #1
I feel like a big part of their strategy sboatcar Apr 2022 #5
Just like the RWNJs in the US Nevilledog Apr 2022 #6
There's a famous pair of WWII Red Army posters. Igel Apr 2022 #14
Thanks! kentuck Apr 2022 #19
Bush Doctrine, motherfuckers. Choke on that shit. Iggo Apr 2022 #2
Why would they be upset? Effete Snob Apr 2022 #3
They're also bombing their own cities and blaming it on the Ukrainians. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #21
"You sank my Battleship!!!" yagotme Apr 2022 #4
Why are they mad they said it was a fire, Ukraine doc03 Apr 2022 #7
"angry and embarrassed that their best battleship was sank".. so they indirectly admitted mitch96 Apr 2022 #8
They really need to get their "stories" straight. Caliman73 Apr 2022 #9
I guess it was the end of the operational life for the captain as well... AntiFascist Apr 2022 #12
44 sounds a bit young for the Captain of a ship like that. BrightKnight Apr 2022 #16
I thought "high seas" kacekwl Apr 2022 #10
High seas are flammable. That's just science. Iggo Apr 2022 #11
LOL! n/t EndlessWire Apr 2022 #18
Russian propaganda ain't what it used to be NotASurfer Apr 2022 #13
LOL - Ukraine might be very angry about a few things too. NT BrightKnight Apr 2022 #15
Nuclear war because Trump's master. Kid Berwyn Apr 2022 #17

sboatcar

(415 posts)
5. I feel like a big part of their strategy
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 04:20 PM
Apr 2022

its to just have such a firehose of information, most of it false, that people don't even know what's real at all.

Nevilledog

(51,197 posts)
6. Just like the RWNJs in the US
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 04:23 PM
Apr 2022

People hear so many conflicting stories they just throw up their hands and give up finding the truth.

Igel

(35,356 posts)
14. There's a famous pair of WWII Red Army posters.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 05:11 PM
Apr 2022

The first has a young man pulling on his boots under a tree. He's young and obviously green, a private. At the bottom, it says, "We'll get to Berlin!"

The second has the first poster smaller, in the upper left-hand corner, sketched in. The private is older, has been promoted and has medals on his chest, and the poster says, "We got to Berlin!" "Doshli do Berlina!"

The new stamp should take the old stamp, upper left hand corner, with a Ukrainian soldier thumbs down, facing an empty ocean but for a bit of ship still sticking up, the rest underwater. "Poshel !"

 

Effete Snob

(8,387 posts)
3. Why would they be upset?
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 04:04 PM
Apr 2022

As is noted at the end of the video, it has not been confirmed as Ukraine action. Their media says it was a storm, or a fire, or some other nonsense. These people are spreading fake news, lol.

Response to Effete Snob (Reply #3)

yagotme

(2,919 posts)
4. "You sank my Battleship!!!"
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 04:05 PM
Apr 2022

Well, not really. Not really a battleship, I mean. "End of service life.". Yeah. Now it's a submarine. Permanently.

mitch96

(13,924 posts)
8. "angry and embarrassed that their best battleship was sank".. so they indirectly admitted
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 04:33 PM
Apr 2022

it was sunk by UKR and not an "accident"... If so...So much for the obfuscation of the truth..
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Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
9. They really need to get their "stories" straight.
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 04:41 PM
Apr 2022

It was an ammo mishap. No, it was a storm. No, it was planned because the ship reached the end of its operational life. BUT, be angry at the Ukrainians because...? Well, Ukraine says they hit the ship with 2 AS missiles but that isn't true, but still, be angry with them about the ship sinking even though, according to Russian News they had nothing to do with it.

I understand the fog of war, but if the story changes this much, and that is actually coming from state sanctioned sources, that tells you something is not right.

There are two and only two themes here.

1. Russia is incompetent. (Ammo mishap, storm, scuttling the ship)

2. Russia was hit, and is weak. (Ukrainians hit the ship)


Also, I may be wrong here, and I guess other navies do things differently, but typically, when the US navy decommissions a ship, they don't just sink it where it is. They take it to a shipyard, strip off anything they can re-use, then put it in "mothballs". (Anyone feel free to correct me on this). It just doesn't sound plausible that any of this was planned, except for by the Ukrainians.

AntiFascist

(12,792 posts)
12. I guess it was the end of the operational life for the captain as well...
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 04:49 PM
Apr 2022
Captain of sunken Russian warship Moskva ‘killed in explosion’, says Ukraine

First Rank Captain Anton Kuprin, 44, died during an ‘explosion and fire on board’ the vessel


https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/moskva-captain-killed-russia-warship-b2058983.html

NotASurfer

(2,153 posts)
13. Russian propaganda ain't what it used to be
Fri Apr 15, 2022, 04:52 PM
Apr 2022

I think the USSR would have had an admiral state, with a straight face, that their ship had been enhanced with submarine capability

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