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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsTurns out MTG's vitriol and stupidity DON'T serve her well... go figure
https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/marjorie-taylor-greene-reports-her-first-fundraising-loss/ar-AAWgFe2?ocid=U483DHP&li=BBnb7KzAbout half of that loss is represented in fees to Donald Trumps top Jan. 6 attorney and a security detail that protected Kyle Rittenhouse during his trial last year.
While Greene has always traded steep fees for slightly higher returns, shes always managed to come out on topuntil now.
Last quarter she sprung a hole in the bucket, as her campaign committee, Greene for Congress, spent about $1.38 million while taking in only $1.06 million in donations. Fundraising costs alone wiped out three-quarters of those receipts.
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I had been harboring the cynical idea that there were too many stupid, hateful people out there that would be willing to give her money. I'm very glad to be wrong about that.
Let's hope this trend continues.
Roy Rolling
(7,626 posts)How can she raise a million dollar$ but spend $300,000 more? She took in $1 million but spent $1.3 million.
Not even she is that stupid, somethings wrong.
niyad
(132,261 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)She has $3M cash on hand and $500k debt.
The numbers in the OP are just for the last quarter.
https://www.fec.gov/data/candidate/H0GA06192/
BumRushDaShow
(169,433 posts)(posted in the LBN thread here - https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2904592)
By Tia Mitchell, The Atlanta Journal-Constitution
March 11, 2022
WASHINGTON A federal judge in Washington has thrown out a lawsuit filed by Georgia U.S. Rep. Marjorie Taylor Greene and two other conservative lawmakers challenging the fines they faced for refusing to wear masks on the House floor. Greene joined U.S. Reps. Thomas Massie of Kentucky and Ralph Norman of South Carolina in filing a court challenge in July hoping to recoup penalties they faced after House Speaker Nancy Pelosi pushed through new enforcement rules for an existing mask mandate.
U.S. District Judge Reggie Walton wrote in a Wednesday ruling that the case had no merit because Pelosi and the staffers who enforced the fines by docking lawmakers pay could not be sued for decisions made in their government capacity. Walton also disagreed with the plaintiffs arguments that the mask fines amounted to an illegal reduction in their annual salary. The 27th Amendment prohibits any law from changing members compensation before the next election.
Walton disregarded the claim that the mask fines violated the plaintiffs First Amendment protections of free speech, which their lawyers claimed should be invoked because the three lawmakers chose not to wear masks as a form of protest. Greene, Massie and Norman have filed an appeal.
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While Massie and Normans protest was limited, Greene continued to show up on the House floor without a mask for the rest of 2021 and into 2022. She eventually accumulated more than $100,000 in fines that were docked from her salary, which is $174,000 a year.
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https://www.ajc.com/politics/judge-tosses-marjorie-taylor-greenes-lawsuit-over-mask-fines/G4UTWBYCXBFQJGF2XGTQ2E7CIU/
(emphasis mine)
Maraya1969
(23,494 posts)BumRushDaShow
(169,433 posts)so that their "salary" was $1, to skirt the fines -
By Melanie Zanona, CNN
Updated 8:24 PM ET, Fri July 30, 2021
(CNN) Rep. Andrew Clyde, the Georgia Republican who compared scenes from January 6 to a "tourist visit," has found a way to evade the House's mask and metal detector fines, according to one of his GOP colleagues.
Rep. Thomas Massie, who is suing Speaker Nancy Pelosi over the chamber's mask penalties, said Clyde changed his tax withholding in a way that makes it nearly impossible for the House to collect the thousands of dollars in fines Clyde has already racked up for evading the House's metal detector; he could also face fines for refusing to mask up on the House floor this week.
Normally fines are taken out of a member's congressional salary, but Massie says Clyde, who owns a firearms business, "went to payroll and had his federal withholding raised to $11,284 a month. So he only gets $1 of pay." The maneuver is designed to prevent the House from garnishing his wages.
Massie added, "Of course, it all goes to his mask fine. But he'll have to be elected until 3,324 A.D. for Pelosi to collect $15,000 in fines. Then when he files his tax return, he gets all his money back." Clyde's office did not respond to a request for comment. The House Ethics Committee declined to comment.
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https://www.cnn.com/2021/07/28/politics/andrew-clyde-mask-fine/index.html
Of course since then, no media follow-up on THAT (apparently a couple "no comments" was enough to put their "normally (intrusive and unrelenting 'to get to the truth') inquisitive" selves in check.
Maraya1969
(23,494 posts)even if it is for child support. (?)
Besides, can't Pelosi put a lien on his pay and get that money?
BumRushDaShow
(169,433 posts)it's not a "but her emails..." story so.... "nothing to see here" from the press.
The only thing I could find about him and the IRS was this ditty (RW source - https://www.atr.org/irs-loses-fight-over-1m-the-agency-wrongfully-took-from-rep-andrew-clyde/ and a forfeiture case (earlier article on that before the final outcome - https://tennesseestar.com/2021/12/17/georgia-rep-andrew-clyde-a-victim-of-civil-asset-forfeiture-calls-for-new-reforms/)
So he might be cognizant of some loopholes given his 9 year "relationship" with the IRS.
h2ebits
(999 posts)and recover the money that way.
BumRushDaShow
(169,433 posts)but we'll probably never know because...
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)She raised 1M and spent 1.3M in one quarter, which is what the article says. But the campaign has $3M cash and $500k debt.
https://www.fec.gov/data/candidate/H0GA06192/
TheBlackAdder
(29,981 posts)Novara
(6,115 posts)tecelote
(5,156 posts)How many Republican fundraising efforts will fall short due to the lack of Russian backing?
FakeNoose
(41,544 posts)Maybe Empty Greene doesn't really have the "base" she'd like us to believe she has.
Siwsan
(27,833 posts)enough
(13,757 posts)are slowing down.
Ilsa
(64,345 posts)I wonder where her money is from. She isn't smart enough to have earned it.
sop
(18,527 posts)in 2002. She and her husband are vice president and president, of the company. Greene was listed as the chief financial officer of Taylor Commercial from 2007 to 2011, but a 2021 Atlanta Journal-Constitution investigation determined that she had no significant presence at the company. In 2011, Greene stepped down as CFO and began a CrossFit training gym where she worked as a part-time coach.
argyl
(3,064 posts)Guess that explains her fondness for wearing feminine style wife beaters. To show off them ripped deltoids.
Which aren't even close to ripped.
Maine Abu El Banat
(3,537 posts)That politics is not a reality show. There are real life consequences.
yardwork
(69,347 posts)Will other billionaires step in to keep the disinformation rolling? Probably.
dchill
(42,660 posts)Blue Owl
(59,040 posts)housecat
(3,138 posts)Emile
(42,205 posts)maybe quit bitching long enough to govern for the people she is suppose to represent.
twodogsbarking
(18,713 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)twodogsbarking
(18,713 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Thats never a good sign unless what the card pod for is also disclosed.
Thats how Duncan Hunter and his wife got busted.
twodogsbarking
(18,713 posts)Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)https://www.justice.gov/usao-sdca/pr/congressman-duncan-d-hunter-pleads-guilty-stealing-campaign-funds
According to the indictment and other publicly filed documents, Hunter and his wife both recognized that campaign funds were being spent on personal activities. For example, after returning home from their Boise and Las Vegas vacation, Duncan and Margaret Hunter discussed how the campaign card had been declined as the family had racked up a $600 minibar and more charges at Caesars as well as a $200 family breakfast, the kids room service and pool drinks, and gift shop purchases. And, despite falsely telling the campaign treasurer that the various charges related to their 2015 Italy vacation were mostly military/defense meet related, Margaret Hunter emailed a friend that Italy was amazing. Truly our best family trip so far. Like that saying if traveling was free youd never see me again!
twodogsbarking
(18,713 posts)I am a retired CPA
niyad
(132,261 posts)security team??? How are those legitimate campaign expenses??
gristy
(10,733 posts)kozar
(3,306 posts)Her hand. A ( lets be honest) fairly nice looking woman who never in her life probably heard the word no. Then she got over confident, and opened her mouth, loudly , and way too many times. She could have kept quiet and milked her looks in Georgia for many years. She went for right now which is what she has known her whole life.
And when she is voted out, maybe this time or next, she will scramble to Fox, AON etc, and become the next Sarah Palin, struggling to feel important.
And the rednecks in her district will vote for the next good looking politician
Disclaimer!! I lived in Tn when Blackburn started, Ive seen this before.
Koz
niyad
(132,261 posts)saying.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)Pluvious
(5,390 posts)Oh wait.
tblue37
(68,426 posts)efhmc
(16,632 posts)I read a thread on DU a while back about concentrating out contributions on races where the candidate has a good chance of winning. There was a promise that we would se that list soon. Did I miss it or not released yet? Thank you.
Qutzupalotl
(15,815 posts)I have not seen a list of winnable races posted here, but I might have missed it. I vaguely recall that poster recommending giving to groups like the DSCC and DCCC, who can respond quickly to a changing race rather than a scattershot approach based on emotion or message. He cited McGrath, who was far behind, raised $43 million because people hated her opponent McConnell, and still lost. He says that money was wasted. He's not wrong.
efhmc
(16,632 posts)demtenjeep
(31,997 posts)The planter of those pipebombs
efhmc
(16,632 posts)All blow and no show.
Effete Snob
(8,387 posts)She's a bigoted, ignorant, blowhard moron, but by night she's some kind of explosive technician.