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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI have been wondering this myself:Ukraine vs. Ethiopia, Sudan , South Sudan
I saw the subject raised and discussed quite frankly today on MSNBC. Is there inherent racism between the way our press treats those countries and Ukraine, mainly white people.
It is great that this show, headed by a black American woman, discussed our press coverage of Ukraine and how it treated or did not treat the same issue in black African nations. Suppression, savage quelling of dissent, torture, all of the things we have read about, if not gone through personally, over the years.
What took so long for our press to finally make the connection?

malaise
(285,248 posts)but it's not just the media. US and Western weapons are present in all of them. Unilateral attacks seem to be OK if the West is part of them.
We either believein democracy or we don't - rule of law must apply to all
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Phoenix61
(18,384 posts)and voiced plans to take over several more once that was accomplished?
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CTyankee
(66,361 posts)But the subject was raised and perhaps we can have a discussion about it.
Phoenix61
(18,384 posts)Im not aware of any African nation that has found itself in the same situation as Ukraine. There are several with massive conflicts. IMHO, we have no business getting involved in those situations. I thought we learned that lesson in Afghanistan.
Hoyt
(54,770 posts)Americans, etc. When we ignore -- or even invade -- them, then it becomes racist.
It's not that Ukrainians should get less publicity/help, it's the other groups should get more publicity, help, etc.
CTyankee
(66,361 posts)empedocles
(15,751 posts)TomCADem
(17,828 posts)While I am sure there is more empathy among some whites for the plight of Ukraine, Ukraine stands between Russia and NATO and Russia has been trying to take over the continent since the days of Stalin.
While other countries may want to influence Ethiopia, Sudan, South Sudan, I don't think any of the superpowers want to actually annex these countries.
questionseverything
(10,913 posts)🤷?♀️
CTyankee
(66,361 posts)The humanitarian interest is huge as well. Innocent civilians being bombed in their homes and streets is horrific. We are not there to strip the Ukrainian people of their mines for gold or diamonds to enrich ourselves countries' of their own natural resources of value to the West. It is a different kind of struggle.
Crazyleftie
(458 posts)can be regarded as despotic violent and un-entitled to rule
cannot support either side
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Dr. Strange
(26,035 posts)when it comes to nonwhite countries.
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Crunchy Frog
(27,653 posts)I think it has more to do with it being a clear act of unprovoked aggression by a military superpower against a smaller and weaker country.
There is a clarity with the Ukraine situation that is lacking in these other ones which tend to be civil wars or insurgencies, or involve non-state militia groups. It's often far less easy to distinguish "good guys" from "bad guys". Oftentimes both, or all sides, appear to be equally, or similarly bad. They also tend to be more complex, with no easy solutions.
There's also the fact that these types of conflict are relatively common, and often very long lasting, and people kind of get used to them, almost as a status quo, while a conflict at this level has not happened in Europe since the end of WWII.
That said, there is just as much civilian suffering, and we should pay more attention than we do.
I believe that if/when China launches a similar attack against Taiwan, that we will see similar sorts of reactions, as it will be a similar type of conflict, despite the fact that the victims will not be white. I hope that my hypothesis on this won't get tested.
CTyankee
(66,361 posts)white conquerors need, wouldn't pay for, and in fact would enslave to exploit their land and riches. That is clear. The "other side" is a land populated by white people being attacked and killed by other white people.
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smirkymonkey
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Dial H For Hero
(2,971 posts)harumph
(2,764 posts)Ukraine is a buffer state between Russia and the remainder of Europe -
hence, it is considered to be incredibly important to the stability of Europe.
But you're completely right regarding the relative amount of news coverage.
Not that Americans (excepting this site and some others) are very engaged
with actual news reporting anyway.