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Demovictory9

(37,113 posts)
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 03:14 AM Apr 2022

Home in Virginia has pending offer despite non-paying occupant 'living in lower level'

A fixer-upper in Fairfax, Virginia, is already under contract after only a few days on the market - despite the buyer being forced to inherit a non-paying occupant in the basement.

The listing, originally posted on April 10, didn't pull any punches when it came to the home's current condition. A few of the windows are rotting, the dishwasher doesn't work, a leaky toilet needs fixing, and the outdoor deck's supports are "not to today's code."

Prospective buyers were also told they would have no access to preview the basement, seeing as the home was selling “as-is” with "a person(s) living in lower level with no lease in place."

The asking price? $800,000. Cash only.

Listing agent Zinta K. Rodgers-Rickert has since cleared up a few details about the bizarre clause, speaking with the Washingtonian about the home's basement-dwellers. Rodgers-Rickert, of the Red Truck Realty Group Re/Max Gateway, told the outlet that the person - or persons - living in the basement "weaseled in" years ago, and the seller no longer has the wherewithal or energy to go through with the eviction process. The elderly seller was also in the hospital, Rodgers-Rickert later told Axios.

The new owners, therefore, will either need to start the eviction process themselves or learn to adapt to their new living situation.

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/realestate/home-in-virginia-has-pending-offer-despite-non-paying-occupant-living-in-lower-level/ar-AAWiwm5

pics of home here:

https://www.zillow.com/homedetails/3709-Prado-Pl-Fairfax-VA-22031/51836844_zpid/

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Home in Virginia has pending offer despite non-paying occupant 'living in lower level' (Original Post) Demovictory9 Apr 2022 OP
Bring in a bulldozer. It's clearly "what the market will bear" but this is insanity. LuckyLib Apr 2022 #1
years of living rent free. Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #2
Desperate times... DET Apr 2022 #3
No. jmowreader Apr 2022 #4
+1 Native Apr 2022 #8
Damn, $800.000 for that! Emile Apr 2022 #5
Location, location, location. Fla_Democrat Apr 2022 #9
It would be 1.5 million in parts of Calif Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #11
MiniMansion Area... HipChick Apr 2022 #19
Lots of MacMansions around there... HipChick Apr 2022 #20
Same or similar situation where I'm living. no_hypocrisy Apr 2022 #6
Lots of renters gaming.the.system.during.covid Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #13
Zillow has the estimated repair costs at 6 grand. ROFL Native Apr 2022 #7
60,000 more like it Demovictory9 Apr 2022 #12
That might cover the attorney's fees for the eviction! Native Apr 2022 #14
And that leaves you stuck with a lot of crap you don't want jmowreader Apr 2022 #17
If somebody has that much in cash, it's likely going to be a complete gut. LisaL Apr 2022 #18
That's just plain bizarre. Buns_of_Fire Apr 2022 #10
Looks to be a highly desirable area. LisaL Apr 2022 #15
Very highly sought after area...lots of land to HipChick Apr 2022 #21
Of course there is ripcord Apr 2022 #22
Lots of places are sold with tenants. They can be evicted SYFROYH Apr 2022 #16

LuckyLib

(7,053 posts)
1. Bring in a bulldozer. It's clearly "what the market will bear" but this is insanity.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 03:34 AM
Apr 2022

And the "eviction" shouldn't cost anyone lawyers and court costs -- a couple of sheriff deputies or Fairfax PD to escort the individual out. But I suspect there's more to the story -- a family member or caregiver who simply feels entitled.

DET

(2,599 posts)
3. Desperate times...
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 03:52 AM
Apr 2022

Yes, it’s insane. I would never buy a property with a squatter in residence. And most people would probably say that they wouldn’t buy a fixer upper at that price point - unless they lived around here. The property is in Mantua, which is an older but well regarded community just outside the Beltway. And it is served by good schools. For better or worse, that price is not unusual for the location.

jmowreader

(53,387 posts)
4. No.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 05:10 AM
Apr 2022

“But why don’t you want this lovely home, Mr. Mowreader?”

“Let me count the ways.
It’s $800,000.
It needs $500,000 worth of work to make it livable.
I gotta gut the kitchen.
Gut the powder room.
Tear the deck off and have it rebuilt.
Reside it with fiber cement.
Re-roof it.
Replace the HVAC system.
Donate the builder-grade range to the Marines for target practice and order a 36” induction range.
Stick the builder-grade fridge on the curb with a sign on it $20 if you haul this off. Works fine.
Replace the dishwasher with one that works.
Throw that goddamned over-the-range microwave off a bridge.
Have the whole house tiled.
Replace all the doors and windows, and put a French door in place of that fucking slider.
And on top of all that, I gotta get rid of a fucking squatter?
Why do you THINK I don’t want this house?”

Emile

(43,225 posts)
5. Damn, $800.000 for that!
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 05:27 AM
Apr 2022

My friend just sold his 3 year old two story log home and 35 acres of land for $650,000. Amazing the price differences around the country.

no_hypocrisy

(55,348 posts)
6. Same or similar situation where I'm living.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 06:54 AM
Apr 2022

Three adults living in unit below me. Haven't paid rent since February 2020. LL couldn't evict during pandemic. They're in the basement where the hot water heaters are. Big spill of water and wasted the floors and they didn't report it.

House (4 units) being sold as I'm typing. And I don't know what will happen after the sale.

jmowreader

(53,387 posts)
17. And that leaves you stuck with a lot of crap you don't want
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 02:38 PM
Apr 2022

The Zillow listing says the heating system is “other” which suggests baseboard heating. One of the photos shows mold on the siding which says to me, maybe it’s Masonite. Masonite siding was one of our stupider ideas; so much of it rotted it bankrupted seven lumber companies - including Masonite itself. (The Premdor Company bought the name in the bankruptcy auction.) As I said in my comment the joint is full of the cheapest appliances you can get at Lowe’s. And I wouldn’t be surprised to find a Federal Pacific breaker panel in the house.

Even without the squatter this is a bad investment.

Buns_of_Fire

(19,218 posts)
10. That's just plain bizarre.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 09:52 AM
Apr 2022

Like Kroger selling me a cartful of groceries that come with a family to help me eat them. There's got to be more to that story.

LisaL

(47,502 posts)
15. Looks to be a highly desirable area.
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 02:12 PM
Apr 2022

I looked up estimates and they are considerably more than $800,000.
So I presume the future owners think they can fix it up and get rid of basement dwellers.

HipChick

(25,615 posts)
21. Very highly sought after area...lots of land to
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 03:02 PM
Apr 2022

build a MacMansion too...

Area is dotted with them...

 

ripcord

(5,553 posts)
22. Of course there is
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 03:12 PM
Apr 2022
https://www.axios.com/local/washington-dc/2022/04/12/viral-fairfax-home-with-squatters-asks-800k-cash

"Zinta Rodgers-Rickert, from RE/MAX Gateway’s Red Truck Realty Group, describes the house's lower-level residents as "squatters" who asked to move in after being hired to clean the home and never left.

The elderly homeowner, who bought the house in 1997, is currently in the hospital and isn't doing well, the agent says."


You have to remember that squatters have more rights than landlords do. Even if the family evicts and get a judgement in court what are they going to collect? Then there is the fact that not only can't the landlord turn of any utilities but the property will have many more repairs because of the squatters.

SYFROYH

(34,214 posts)
16. Lots of places are sold with tenants. They can be evicted
Sun Apr 17, 2022, 02:18 PM
Apr 2022

This is a hugely desirable area and $800,000 for a fixer-upper is not unreasonable

5 bd,4 ba, 3,548 sqft

After $100,000 of renovations and maintenance, this place will be over $1,000,000 instantly.



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