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Some seemingly unrelated facts tell us where this is headed.
Idaho borders Washington state. During the pandemic, deep red Idaho did nothing to mitigate the effects of Covid. Their Covid death rate was 75% higher than Washington's, and Washington hospitals were jammed with Idaho Covid patients.
Now, 45% of new patients at Planned Parenthood in one Washington town near the Idaho border are from Idaho. Planned Parenthood is opening new clinics along the border in Washington. PP in Washington is going to be slammed with Idaho patients.
In the states around Texas, new patients from Texas at abortion clinics have increased 800%.
Two countries... One free... the other a kind of "Handmaid's Tale" dystopia.
erronis
(15,181 posts)I don't know how the backwards states will prevent this except through fear of punishment if caught.
The real solution is to sterilize all men who won't give women the right to determine their own health. For legislators, I'd suggest castration.
Marius25
(3,213 posts)but yeah I don't know how that's enforced.
GB_RN
(2,334 posts)And since searching someone's mail without a warrant is a federal crime, I hope the bastards are dumb enough to try it. No federal judge is going to authorize a warrant for a measly state crime.
albacore
(2,398 posts)if young women think they can count on the abortion pills... mifepristone & misoprostol, they should know the forced-birth people are coming at those drugs full-blast.
Texas already had the most restrictive abortion laws in the U.S. and they just got tougher. Recently, a new law took effect that adds penalties of jail time and a fine of up to $10,000 for anyone who prescribes pills for medication abortions through telehealth or the mail.
keithbvadu2
(36,655 posts)Doctors can prescribe for off-label uses.
Off-label prescribing is when a physician gives you a drug that the U.S. Food and Drug Administration (FDA) has approved to treat a condition different than your condition. This practice is legal and common. In fact, one in five prescriptions written today are for off-label use.
Maybe like ivermectin and hydroxychloroquine?
https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=prescribe+medications+off-label
Just be sure to mention side effects.
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)Penectomy and orchidectomy just to make sure.
DENVERPOPS
(8,789 posts)Old Crank
(3,525 posts)Marius25
(3,213 posts)Abortion could be banned nationwide.
That's the terrifying reality we may be looking at.
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)They will also ban contraception, same-sex marriage, interracial marriage, putting children up for adoption, any kind of sex except penis-in-vagina to include masturbation, LGBT, and anything else that violates the tenets of the most extreme Christian sects. Oh yeah
since the book they like to beat people over the head with says slavery is fine, expect that to make a comeback but this time it wont just be black people who get to be enslaved.
Fortunately for me Ive got a house thats worth enough to give me seed money to move to Germany if those assholes go full fascist.
childfreebychoice
(476 posts)Marius25
(3,213 posts)I can't get a job in Europe.
Skittles
(153,111 posts)I will stay and FIGHT
Marius25
(3,213 posts)I have no way to get a visa there.
DemocraticPatriot
(4,306 posts)The time may come, when their "2nd Amendment solution" will be turned against them...
And rightfully so, if they are able to make good on their other fantasies...
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)If they get extreme enough theyll probably come up with a lie that will result in collecting the guns and those asshats will joyfully hand them over.
ancianita
(35,932 posts)GB_RN
(2,334 posts)Look at how many women voted against Hillary and FOR the Mango Menace in 2016 for example. And that was despite (or in spite) of all the evidence of Dolt45's crimes of harassment, rape, misogyny, promises to nominate anti-choice judges, etc.
Referring to the American public, H.L. Mencken once said:
No one in this world, so far as I know and I have searched the records for years, and employed agents to help me has ever lost money by underestimating the intelligence of the great masses of the plain people.
It's still quite applicable today.
littlemissmartypants
(22,568 posts)surmised meant most of the population is mainly idiots. That seems to have been the way he meant it based on the context.
GB_RN
(2,334 posts)Since Dolt45 took his infamous walk down that escalator to announce his candidacy, Id say it could also mean the masses are assholes.
Either way, it fits the GOPQ base.
murielm99
(30,717 posts)near the states that border us. Some of them have restrictive abortion laws. Our great governor announced this and is very proud of it.
NickB79
(19,224 posts)A woman could travel 500 miles and still be far from the nearest state border that allows abortions.
And the women most in need of abortions typically don't have the ability or funds to pay for 2 days and a hotel stay traveling.
albacore
(2,398 posts)Imagine.... "Boss, I need three days off to get an abortion in a nearby state.."
How's that gonna go over in the Red states.
DENVERPOPS
(8,789 posts)are providing free bus tickets, and accommodations for any woman who applies, from any state in the Union.......
Thunderbeast
(3,400 posts)Ontario will be getting a Planned Parenthhod clinic to provide health services to Idaho women...
You're welcome.
childfreebychoice
(476 posts)with abortion fees. This has never been about abortion but, as some old, white lady at a rethug meeting shouted, "we need more white babies." Black women have more abortions, so there will just be more fodder for low-waged jobs
childfreebychoice
(476 posts)Over md rethug gov hogan's objection, money was allocated to train nurse practitioners, midwives, and physicians assistants to do abortions. Glad md has Dem majority congress
hamsterjill
(15,220 posts)So ridiculous.
DownriverDem
(6,226 posts)before Roe. A friend of mine went to New York from Ohio. She traveled alone because they could not aford for her boyfriend to go too. This is where it's headed.
Old Crank
(3,525 posts)Border check points for women traveling out of state.
They will be demanding pregnancy tests.
They have already said they want to stop women from going elsewhere to get an abortion.
The Jungle 1
(4,552 posts)This is so ignorant.
How about we sterilize all men who donate to an unwanted pregnant. Clip um.
Also no little blue pill unless you are married and have a note from your wife.
world wide wally
(21,738 posts)So, how have they managed to circumvent this and outlaw abortion in so many states in spite of what the Constitution says?
Mad_Machine76
(24,392 posts)overrules Roe v. Wade or severely limits it when they hand their ruling in Dobbs v. Jackson in June.
Buckeyeblue
(5,499 posts)I thought Idaho was big on not wanting government in your life. But they are fine with the government forcing citizens to give birth? Again this law is about control and "power" over women. It's never been about some moral prerogative that a fetus longs to be born.
roamer65
(36,744 posts)Answer: It wont.
jmowreader
(50,528 posts)Is that its already true.
The right to choose in Washington predates Roe. Before Roe there was a clinic in Spokane thats now part of the Planned Parenthood network. My mom grew up in Bonners Ferry, which is the closest town to the Canadian border, in the early 1950s and she claims quite a few of her classmates who got into trouble (meaning they got pregnant) would go to Spokane (which is no mean feat; its well over 100 miles and the roads were not good back then) for abortions. People from Idaho who have needed to end pregnancies have always gone to Spokane.
There are three places in Idaho where abortions are done
and for most of the state theyre out of reach. Find an Idaho map and look up Boise and Idaho Falls. There are three clinics in the whole state. Two are in the Boise area, the third in Idaho Falls. Its quicker and easier to get to Seattle from anywhere north of Moscow.