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Sancho

(9,073 posts)
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 08:56 AM Apr 2022

Florida rejects math books, claiming they indoctrinate (and other Fl education nonsense)

https://www.tampabay.com/news/education/2022/04/18/florida-rejects-math-books-claiming-they-indoctrinate/?

The big story: Can math lessons be racist?

The Florida Department of Education has suggested they can be, rejecting dozens of textbooks from adoption for use on the grounds that they included “critical race theory,” “social-emotional learning” and other “impermissible” subjects that the Republican-led government has sought to excise from the public schools.

Student walkouts: The Flagler County teen who organized statewide protests against HB 1557 on gender lessons said his district penalized him for his activity after stating it would not discipline him any further, the Daytona Beach News-Journal reports. He already had been suspended for handing out Pride flags after being told not to do so.

Teacher shortages: Florida schools started the academic year with thousands of teacher vacancies and struggles to find enough substitutes. The situation has worsened over time, WFTS reports.

Before you go ... Brett Goldstein, who plays the usually potty-mouthed Roy Kent on Ted Lasso, showed up on Sesame Street to teach about the f-word. No, not that one. It’s a kids’ show.




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Florida rejects math books, claiming they indoctrinate (and other Fl education nonsense) (Original Post) Sancho Apr 2022 OP
He was banned for handing out flags? exboyfil Apr 2022 #1
It's ok to have confederate flags on your truck or QAnon flags on your shirts... Sancho Apr 2022 #3
Handing out Confederate flags at school? exboyfil Apr 2022 #4
Based on the TV news all the flags and stuff were in the parking lot and things... Sancho Apr 2022 #5
That makes it so much worse exboyfil Apr 2022 #6
Student organizer of FL's 'Don't Say Gay' school walkout suspended from Flagler school Sancho Apr 2022 #7
We can't indoctrinate our children with EDUCATION! Diamond_Dog Apr 2022 #2
For this thread LetMyPeopleVote Apr 2022 #8

exboyfil

(17,894 posts)
1. He was banned for handing out flags?
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 09:01 AM
Apr 2022

So long as those receiving the flags want them (ie stand to the side of any pathway with the offer) how is that even Constitutional. Students can hand out religious tracts at school as well for example.

There is a time and place restriction. Did he violate that? Who else has handed out literature and/or symbols and did they comply to the time and place restriction.

As far as an approved protest, I have always been against it. It smacks of advancing the teachers/administrators agenda whatever the political affiliation. In other words the protest has no meaning and is just time out from instruction. I wouldn't want a release to protest an abortion clinic for example. You do the protest, you take the hit. It should actually be a talking point for college admission.

Sancho

(9,073 posts)
3. It's ok to have confederate flags on your truck or QAnon flags on your shirts...
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 09:42 AM
Apr 2022

...just don't hand out LGBTQ "rainbow" flags! That's different!

exboyfil

(17,894 posts)
4. Handing out Confederate flags at school?
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 09:56 AM
Apr 2022

That one is little dicey given it is used as a symbol of hate, but I would personally allow it if I was a principal under very specific conditions that protect students from being harassed by them (waving it a student's face for example).

Sancho

(9,073 posts)
5. Based on the TV news all the flags and stuff were in the parking lot and things...
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 05:13 PM
Apr 2022

...not in a classroom. The student in question was also a speaker at a school meeting, and he wore a dress. I have no idea what the gender identity was to be intended - I think the idea was that the school could not dictate identity.

exboyfil

(17,894 posts)
6. That makes it so much worse
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 05:18 PM
Apr 2022

Unless he is physically preventing people from walking past him to hand out his flags, it is clearly a 1st amendment violation.

Now if he is in the parking lot when he is supposed to be in class, that is a different matter. He can be punished for that or even trespassed from the school if he is asked to leave (either you are in class or you are off school grounds - you don't have any other choice).

Sancho

(9,073 posts)
7. Student organizer of FL's 'Don't Say Gay' school walkout suspended from Flagler school
Mon Apr 18, 2022, 05:24 PM
Apr 2022
https://www.news-journalonline.com/story/news/education/2022/03/03/dont-say-gay-flagler-palm-coast-high-school-walkout-organizer-jack-petocz-suspended-indefinitely/9344494002/

"Say gay! Say gay! Say gay!"

That's what more than 500 students chanted at Flagler Palm Coast High School's stadium Thursday morning while waving pride flags in a walkout protesting House Bill 1557. The bill is a controversial measure that would prohibit school instruction on sexual orientation and gender identity in kindergarten through third grade.

Critics have labeled it the "Don't Say Gay" bill, though its purpose is to support parents' rights when deciding what they want their child to learn about sexuality.

FPCHS junior Jack Petocz organized the walkout for not only the high school, but for schools across the state to support LGBTQ+ rights for students. More than 20 schools have been identified as participants with hundreds of students in each school showing their opposition to the House Bill by walking out of class.

Following the protest, Petocz, told The News-Journal he had been suspended until further notice "pending an investigation."
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