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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsPELOSI: "The country needs a strong Republican Party, not one that has been hijacked as a cult."
What happened: Speaker Nancy Pelosi implored young Republicans to "take back your party" during a wide-ranging conversation with former Sen. Barbara Boxer (D-Calif.) on Monday evening in Berkeley, Calif."Take back your party. The country needs a strong Republican Party, not one that has been hijacked as a cult. We really need that."
Speaker Nancy Pelosi
Her other takeaway: Without naming him, she acknowledged former President Donald Trump's "very authoritarian" approach has been partially effective: "Theyve had some level of success of undermining the collective conscience of our country that we all agree certain things are right."
https://www.politico.com/minutes/congress/04-19-2022/pelosis-words-to-gop/
Autumn
(48,954 posts)of the ocean. That party will never be "taken back" They have done nothing but harm for the country, people and the world.
I don't think she realizes how revealing her statement is
vercetti2021
(10,481 posts)The Republican party needs to be drowned in a bathtub, and then shot in the head to prevent it from reanimating.
Amishman
(5,928 posts)and there absolutely would be a replacement.
Removing the party does not cap the wellspring of rightwing votes that sustains it. Those voters who simply don't like what we are offering will find someone else to support in opposition of us.
We want to believe the party is the real bad guy, that those who vote for them are mislead and most of them would be much better if not for that bad influence. As someone who lives in a very red area, I do not believe that to be the case.
To borrow something I posted a little while ago:
You have two visions of the future of this country; one multicultural, urban-centric, diverse, and vibrant. The other a suburban and rural focused Christian conservative monoculture. They are not compatible with each other.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)midterms
maxsolomon
(38,694 posts)It doesn't mean there isn't a point in calling for sanity and moderation out loud.
My district will be returning Pramila Jayapal to lead the Progressive Caucus and my state will return Patty Murray to the Senate. I can't vote much more than that.
JohnSJ
(98,883 posts)we do not. We need them fucking gone.
Omnipresent
(7,439 posts)Its stuck in 1940s fascist nazi Germany!
They will need a time machine to fix this!
BeyondGeography
(41,089 posts)So do Democrats.
Notice you never hear the same or similar thoughts from Republicans at her level (or most any level). Thats because they understand their voters, which should tell you how they feel about democracy.
mcar
(46,036 posts)aocommunalpunch
(4,580 posts)We need a strong Democratic party. How fucking hard is this? Read the room.
area51
(12,686 posts)Towlie
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kentuck
(115,401 posts)You don't go to war with the Party you would hope for. You go to war with the Party that you have.
Vogon_Glory
(10,293 posts)(Speaking as a onetime Republican), Club Pachyderm is too far gone. It needs to go the way of the Whig Party.
dalton99a
(94,095 posts)The good Republicans are all resting comfortably in cemeteries.
dawg
(10,777 posts)It's an unintended consequence of our form of government.
Therefore, it's of paramount importance that both parties remain sane and committed to democracy and the common good of the people.
We've entered into somewhat uncharted territory with today's Republican Party. There is a real sickness in white American culture. Otherwise, a party like that would struggle to find 20% support and would collapse like the Whigs.
betsuni
(29,056 posts)leftstreet
(40,582 posts)wow
jalan48
(14,914 posts)Budi
(15,325 posts)The Party of Nadar did the exact same thing to Gore that RU asset Jill Stein's group did to Candidate Clinton in 2016.
They were also there in 2020 against Biden.
Republicans have had no better sabotuers for friends than that 3rd Party.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Has it burned all down enough for them yet?
I don't see what's lol worthy about the result of their actions.
gab13by13
(32,265 posts)I've noticed that there is a group of moderate Democrats here who are still fighting the 2016 primary.
Budi
(15,325 posts)It is in our history to be learned from.
You don't get to refuse to speak about how our Democracy arrived at this fragile moment simply because its a truth some would rather not be reminded of.
Lessons are learned by studying history.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Gore should have won.
Stability of our Democracy.
Environmental action
Human rights
Yes. Gore should have won.
Wild blueberry
(8,287 posts)It's not a given that Dems will lose in November.
The party formerly known as RepubliQan is a death cult.
RobertDevereaux
(2,035 posts)gab13by13
(32,265 posts)Putin puppet Donald Trump is the head of the Putin party and not one party member has denounced Donald Trump, so that makes them all members of the Putin Party.
The Republican party is dead.
NNadir
(37,994 posts)The problem is that these neofascists hate democracy and are only interested in killing it.
Budi
(15,325 posts)Republicans lost their Party with the rise of the Tea Party.
Koch funded, white supremacist Tea Party with a charasmatic Palin speaking all they longed to hear.
The Tea Party was simply a revival of the long hidden John Birch Society.
Propaganda & an attractive leader who spoke their language. You betcha!!
And here we are.
Mr. Evil
(3,457 posts)It has devolved into a litany of clowns all frothing at the mouth in a daily quest of a new enemy to denigrate and protect the masses from. What we need are less dog and pony shows and more people that excel at formulating real world solutions for real world problems.
If we feel we must have two parties how about we cut to the chase and call them the Human Party and the Lunatic Asshole Party.
SmallFry
(349 posts)Learning a lot about our fellow citizens.
IronLionZion
(51,218 posts)Many are just as looney as their representatives: Boebert, Greene, Cawthorn, etc. It's wishful thinking to hope their young folks will take back their party from the extremists.
rkleinberger
(155 posts)She doesn't get it!
Novara
(6,115 posts)She is making a mockery of the GOP. She is making a sly joke, and in essence she is really saying that we need the cultists to go away. She truly doesn't believe in the "drown government in a bathtub" party. She definitely doesn't believe in any of the things they supposedly stand for: no taxes on the rich, a white, male, theocratic country, no rights for women, LGBT, minorities, immigrants, etc.
She is not to be taken literally when she says shit like this because she doesn't MEAN for you to take her literally. Read between her words, keeping in mind what SHE stands for, and I think you'll agree. This is Nancy being clever.
FakeNoose
(41,564 posts)I hope the "young republicans" are listening, but sadly I realize they probably aren't.
I wish she had addressed the fact that "undermining our collective conscience" isn't necessarily something to be attempted or achieved. Chump's authoritarian approach has done nothing but disrupt our society, our government, our economy, and our national psyche.