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Tue Apr 19, 2022, 06:18 PM

Russia doubles down at the UN.

Russia participated at the UN Security Council by giving a speech filled with useless nonsense, history that they say justifies their current brutality, and an odd, end-of-speech declaration which amounts to a threat to the UNSC about Russia not stopping at all their war of choice.

The entire UNSC continuously implores Russia to stop what they are doing, but China continues to talk about economic sanctions and the fact that other countries are affected. Nothing new there from China.

Russia continues to promote lies about what is going on in Ukraine, and attempting to use PR as justification against their aggression. Anything they think will change hearts and minds and stoke up hate against everyone and anyone except themselves they are stating in rambling, far ranging wild stabs of disinformation.

Ukraine, in its speech, openly called for Russia to be silenced at the UNSC. He said that the UN council is ineffectual as long as Russia is allowed to hold the seat. This was said obliquely, but it was clear at the end of his speech.

Make no mistake, the UNSC is fed up with Russia, and the war of choice pathway that they are taking. We here, who hope fervently and prayerfully that the war will end, cannot look forward to that, as Russia stated an intent to not stop, and the statement that they are achieving their aims (which is, what?) does not bode well for the world. The lies go on.

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Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 06:53 PM

1. I thought they were voted off the security council? Did that not happen?

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 07:00 PM

2. There isn't a mechanism

To remove a Security Council member that doesn't involve a vote by the Security Council- where Russia holds veto power

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Response to sarisataka (Reply #2)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 09:33 PM

8. There could very well be in this case (and only this case).

"Russia" was never named to the council. The Soviet Union was. Russia was one of the states making up the old Soviet Union and does not automatically inherit all the Soviet Union's power. A simple vote of the assembly could decide this.

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 07:09 PM

3. 5 permanent members.

Russia inherited the USSR's seat.

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #1)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 07:21 PM

4. They got voted off the GA Human Rights Council. n/t

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Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 08:37 PM

5. If the United Nations does not find a mechanism to remove Russia from the Security Council,

it will be forever irretrievably broken. I don't know what that mechanism may be but if something is not done, the UN is a waste of space and money.

The General Assembly ought to have some mechanism to to alter the UN charter subject to ratification by a majority of the member states. If there is no such mechanism, the Charter is a suicide pact for the entire organization.

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Response to TomSlick (Reply #5)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 09:01 PM

6. It has been broken since they gave Russia veto power.

The UN is just a big useless bureaucracy.

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Response to Bev54 (Reply #6)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 09:03 PM

7. I am concerned that you may be correct.

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Response to EndlessWire (Original post)

Tue Apr 19, 2022, 10:36 PM

9. China should be quietly informed that if there is a nuclear war, they will be a part of it.

Given that they could stop this nonsense in days if they wanted to.

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