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Samrob

(4,298 posts)
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 11:21 AM Apr 2022

So, Netflix lost 200K customers?? I think I may know why if my friend (now acquaintance) is correct

I can't believe I did not sense this from this person whom I have known or thought I knew for about 20 years. In conversation he mentioned that he had cancelled his Netflix about two months ago. I asked why, since I enjoy the family plan on Netflix and think their offerings are pretty good. Friend: " just got tired of their bullshit movies and documentaries." Like what, I asked. " Like all those anti-Hitler documentaries and all those "woke" series and movies. My brain went into tizzy right then. I can't even begin to relate the rest of the conversation.

As I think back over some of our conversations and small talk over the years I can now see clearly what I missed and dismissed as freedom of thought and different strokes for different folks. I can't prove it but I have a strong feeling that there is a RW movement that is trying to "cancel" any culture except their RW-alter reality-culture. I think Netflix is being Disney-ed right now. What is happening to Disney in FL is creeping into Netflix and other popular streaming services.

My advice, copy and download what you can. It may not be accessible later. Tell me I am wrong...I hope I am.

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So, Netflix lost 200K customers?? I think I may know why if my friend (now acquaintance) is correct (Original Post) Samrob Apr 2022 OP
kicking... nt Hotler Apr 2022 #1
Your friend is wrong Kaleva Apr 2022 #2
I'm leaving Netflix, too Random Boomer Apr 2022 #41
I was thinking about ditching Netflix for Paramount Plus. Initech Apr 2022 #49
I love Paramount Plus Random Boomer Apr 2022 #65
My wife and I like to binge watch Kaleva Apr 2022 #59
You just spelled it out, and you are right JohnSJ Apr 2022 #55
Their subscriptions went down because they just jacked up their prices Poiuyt Apr 2022 #58
Yes. Had nothing to do for being "woke". Kaleva Apr 2022 #60
They added 500,000 subscribers but "lost" 700,000 when they canceled Russian accounts SoonerPride Apr 2022 #3
Thanks, hadn't considered that. Math is wonderful. nt Phoenix61 Apr 2022 #10
Apparently...but not in Florida! CincyDem Apr 2022 #16
makes sense. nt yaesu Apr 2022 #29
Netflix lost 200k subscribers aquamarina Apr 2022 #4
I totally agree - the growth companys have very high multiples and with walkingman Apr 2022 #9
I think you're right. FoxNewsSucks Apr 2022 #5
Bullseye!!! "Take over the schools, keep people dumb and ignorant/unaware."NT usaf-vet Apr 2022 #43
Knee jerker. lpbk2713 Apr 2022 #6
your former friend was upset barbtries Apr 2022 #7
I watch every one I can find. boston bean Apr 2022 #18
Way too many RWers and Qanon support Putin in the war IronLionZion Apr 2022 #20
I blame it on the loss of phylny Apr 2022 #8
You can't even watch samplegirl Apr 2022 #11
Netflix has it on DVD IronLionZion Apr 2022 #23
Probably not Tree-Hugger Apr 2022 #12
Yeah. I suppose it could be that couch quarantining has competition now. jaxexpat Apr 2022 #25
Our Netflix season runs from the beginning of Nov to the end of Mar Rural_Progressive Apr 2022 #53
Recently Netflix raised their rates PatSeg Apr 2022 #13
And here I was thinking that Netflix had too many fringe topic offerings and too few usajumpedtheshark Apr 2022 #14
Not everything is about politics Sympthsical Apr 2022 #15
What about just plain cost? Igirl Apr 2022 #17
No, they have tons more competition now IronLionZion Apr 2022 #19
Bingo jfz9580m Apr 2022 #26
You can search Justwatch.com to see which service has it IronLionZion Apr 2022 #28
Hey thanks so much! jfz9580m Apr 2022 #34
A friend of mine piles up and cancels Sympthsical Apr 2022 #37
That is it..it is a lot of work (to expend basically on slacking off ;-/) jfz9580m Apr 2022 #39
JustWatch is the bible of streaming Sympthsical Apr 2022 #48
Oh yeah jfz9580m Apr 2022 #63
So he's pro-Hitler? geardaddy Apr 2022 #21
Fine people on both sides IronLionZion Apr 2022 #24
Yep. geardaddy Apr 2022 #27
Finding out my friend was upset at anti-Hitler docs on Netflix AZSkiffyGeek Apr 2022 #54
Yeah, me too. geardaddy Apr 2022 #57
The Price Increases Netflix Has Instigated Lately Are Killing It For Me... GB_RN Apr 2022 #22
Cinemark large popcorn about $8. Netflix about $15. Hmmmmmmmmm..... NoMoreRepugs Apr 2022 #30
I Rarely Go To The Theater Anymore... GB_RN Apr 2022 #56
Yup. milestogo Apr 2022 #36
They raised the monthly price edhopper Apr 2022 #31
I believe the increase in price they implemented was partly cause for a decrease in customers ... aggiesal Apr 2022 #32
I dropped Netflix Layzeebeaver Apr 2022 #33
This message was self-deleted by its author AllaN01Bear Apr 2022 #35
Been thinking about canceling it myself but won't cstanleytech Apr 2022 #38
I picked up Kindle Unlimited for $30 for 6 months to try it out. avebury Apr 2022 #45
Never been able to get into audiobooks though I have tried them a few times. cstanleytech Apr 2022 #50
T-Mobile bought Sprint BumRushDaShow Apr 2022 #40
I heard Netflix is fed up with password sharing, and they were planning vsrazdem Apr 2022 #42
I come and go on Netflix. If I get to a period where I avebury Apr 2022 #44
You think this is bad, they expect to lose 2+ million in Q2 Celerity Apr 2022 #46
I love Netflix but they are greedy bastards Bluesaph Apr 2022 #47
Netflix is mostly dying of streaming fragmentation paulkienitz Apr 2022 #51
Conservative's been after Netflix for awhile ToxMarz Apr 2022 #52
Netflix needs to add movies with topics other than murder. mysteryowl Apr 2022 #61
I watch Netflix all the time and love it no matter the cost. pwb Apr 2022 #62
What a friend Botellos Apr 2022 #64
They want to remain competitive, they need to stop making excuses and Emile Apr 2022 #66
I cancelled because I increasingly found it difficult to search out viewable films msfiddlestix Apr 2022 #67
I used to have a ton of Netflix movies in my queue bif Apr 2022 #68

Kaleva

(40,435 posts)
2. Your friend is wrong
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 11:29 AM
Apr 2022

Increased competition, and password sharing are to blame according to many sources.

Rather then doing some research, you believe a right winger.

Random Boomer

(4,417 posts)
41. I'm leaving Netflix, too
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:35 PM
Apr 2022

And it has nothing to do with some right-wing political backlash. I'm just not getting enough enjoyment to justify the cost. I watch other streaming channels much more.

Initech

(109,269 posts)
49. I was thinking about ditching Netflix for Paramount Plus.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:54 PM
Apr 2022

There's more things I'm interested in and it's cheaper.

Random Boomer

(4,417 posts)
65. I love Paramount Plus
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 10:07 AM
Apr 2022

Frankly, it would be worth it just so I can watch my favorite shows without commercials and watch them at my own convenience. But as a Trek fan, the original programming -- like Picard -- make it a must-have streaming channel.

Kaleva

(40,435 posts)
59. My wife and I like to binge watch
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 05:35 PM
Apr 2022

For an hour or so in the early evening. Netflix has some good series we've enjoyed so we'll probably keep it along with Amazon Prime, Peacock and Hulu.

Kaleva

(40,435 posts)
60. Yes. Had nothing to do for being "woke".
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 05:37 PM
Apr 2022

If the competition is cheaper and just as good, they were bound to lose subscribers.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
3. They added 500,000 subscribers but "lost" 700,000 when they canceled Russian accounts
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 11:29 AM
Apr 2022

A net loss of 200,000 is a short term blip.

An aberration brought about by stopping service in Russia because of their invasion of Ukraine.

 

aquamarina

(1,865 posts)
4. Netflix lost 200k subscribers
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 11:30 AM
Apr 2022

Because it got out of Russia. Russia accounted for 700k subscribers. So, but for Russia Netflix would have had a net gain of 500k subscribers. Netflix has 220+ million total subscribers so the 200k amounts to less than 1/2 of 1% of all subscribers. The loss in value, in my opinion is is a complete over-reaction by the market but that’s just me.

walkingman

(11,160 posts)
9. I totally agree - the growth companys have very high multiples and with
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 11:49 AM
Apr 2022

FED interest rate hikes people are moving to away from growth to value. The corporations are making profit hand over fist but are infatuated with stock buybacks to keep share prices up. Also like fossil fuel companies use any excuse to raise prices simply because they can.

IMO, the stock market is nothing more than a big casino but the alternatives are scarce. I think most people would like to be able to keep up with inflation and not take risk....especially as you get older.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,919 posts)
5. I think you're right.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 11:30 AM
Apr 2022

It's part of their plan - take over the schools, keep people dumb and ignorant/unaware.

Any corporation that doesn't toe that fascist line, or dares to provide thought-provoking info and truth will be punished.

I don't think I could be friends with someone who considers an anti-Hitler documentary to be "bullshit". He must have either been looking for those "bullshit movies" or was told to do that. I've had netflix for years and have never seen them

lpbk2713

(43,299 posts)
6. Knee jerker.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 11:32 AM
Apr 2022


Obviously one of the Faux Snooze talking heads planted their seed in your neighbor's head.

barbtries

(31,353 posts)
7. your former friend was upset
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 11:47 AM
Apr 2022

that there were "anti-hitler" documentaries? he must be delighted at putin's war.

horrifying. anyway i think you're right. they tune in carlson and hate radio and other rightwing disinfo factories and it fucks up their brains, fills them with "righteous" hatred, and leaves them entirely intolerant of any other view - they don't even respect other people's lived experiences. Their critical thinking skills are abandoned. I have loved ones who have gone on down the rabbit hole, and we are essentially estranged. it is sad.

it's an abuse of the first amendment and i wish i knew how to remedy it.

Tree-Hugger

(3,379 posts)
12. Probably not
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 12:00 PM
Apr 2022

Netflix is having this current struggle because they lost 700,000 subscribers from Russia. They cracked down on password sharing and raised prices. Many people are returning to work, school, and activities outside the home, which limits the time available for binging shows on Netflix. Those are bigger factors now, rather than any coordinated RW effort to boycott them.

Rural_Progressive

(1,107 posts)
53. Our Netflix season runs from the beginning of Nov to the end of Mar
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 02:13 PM
Apr 2022

Cold, dark, short days, perfect for streaming all manner of information.

Warm, light, long days, perfect for being outside, planting gardens, lambing, and enjoying the great outdoors. Not going to be watching much of anything.

Netflix on and Netflix off.

PatSeg

(53,551 posts)
13. Recently Netflix raised their rates
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 12:02 PM
Apr 2022

one time too many, making them the most expensive streaming service available, even more expensive than HBO Max. After almost fifteen years, I canceled my subscription. $15.49 a month was just too much for just one streaming service and their content did not warrant it. Meanwhile, I subscribe to both BritBox AND Acorn for a combined total of only $12.98 a month and I watch them far more than I ever watched Netflix.

I am not the only one who found the recent rate increase unreasonable and that could account for many of the 200,000 lost subscribers. The last time Netflix raised their rates, they said it was so they could provide more high quality programming, but over a year later, I still did not see any significant improvement, just another rate increase.

usajumpedtheshark

(673 posts)
14. And here I was thinking that Netflix had too many fringe topic offerings and too few
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 12:02 PM
Apr 2022

factually based offerings

Sympthsical

(11,114 posts)
15. Not everything is about politics
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 12:08 PM
Apr 2022

Netflix has a lot more competition than it used to. People are now making choices. I don't have cable and exclusively use streaming over a chromecast, and I don't have close to all or most of the services. Netflix, Hulu, Disney+, and HBO Max are probably the big four. But you have Paramount+, Apple+, AMC+, etc. etc. etc.

How many of those do you want to pay for? And when paying for them, are you actually using them? I recently noticed I hadn't watched anything on Netflix in almost two months. I haven't cancelled it, because there is quite a bit there I've been "meaning" to see, but I bet there are plenty of people who are now seeing these streaming services more like gym memberships they never use. "Well, maybe I'll go later in the week!" I mean, maybe.

Mix in the Russia stuff and the fact that Netflix's quality control has really taken a dive. So much stuff on there is mass-produced garbage content for the sake of having content. Even the tent poles are kind of . . . eh. They could afford to do that when they didn't have competition. Now they do.

The only thing really happening is that they're plateauing a bit due to saturation and competition.

 

Igirl

(80 posts)
17. What about just plain cost?
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 12:21 PM
Apr 2022

It’s $20 a month. That’s doubled in the last few years for me. I can’t afford it with everything else going up so much.

IronLionZion

(51,554 posts)
19. No, they have tons more competition now
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 12:50 PM
Apr 2022

they used to be the only streaming service but there are many choices now. And many of the content creators have pulled their stuff back from Netflix onto their own services. So Netflix is great for people who like original content created by Netflix.

 

jfz9580m

(17,910 posts)
26. Bingo
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 12:58 PM
Apr 2022

On the flip side I am finding it a complicated optimization problem by now :-/...
how to sign up for streaming services so I maximize my "must have show" hit rate at minimum cost..sigh..

IronLionZion

(51,554 posts)
28. You can search Justwatch.com to see which service has it
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:01 PM
Apr 2022

then sign up for services based on what you want to watch. Then cancel after you're done. You can do some damage with the free trials and discounts for new subscribers.

 

jfz9580m

(17,910 posts)
34. Hey thanks so much!
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:09 PM
Apr 2022

That is an awesome service..you can even get stuff like the old Twilight Zone it looks like..
Surprised I have not heard about JustWatch before..

Thanks!

Sympthsical

(11,114 posts)
37. A friend of mine piles up and cancels
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:15 PM
Apr 2022

He waits until a service has ten things he wants to watch, subscribes for a month to watch them, then cancels.

I have other friends who would do things like only subscribe to HBO when Game of Thrones was running. A buddy of mine just mentioned the other day he'd have to resubscribe to Netflix when Stranger Things lands.

It's pretty smart. Unfortunately, I am lazy as sin.

 

jfz9580m

(17,910 posts)
39. That is it..it is a lot of work (to expend basically on slacking off ;-/)
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:26 PM
Apr 2022

That is why I liked the justwatch service IronLionZion recommended above based on a cursory overview.

It is so tiresome to find that..oh ok these guys offer The Peacemaker but nothing else I want..those guys offer The Boys and The Magicians but not much else...let alone older shows .
Too much work!

Sympthsical

(11,114 posts)
48. JustWatch is the bible of streaming
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:53 PM
Apr 2022

It's the first place I look for anything.

I have a bunch of stuff I found on there that uses the Mubi service. I'm waiting for a free weekend so I can hit that 7 day free trial, lol.

As it is Batman is on HBO now, and I can't even think where I'm going to find three hours for that. In the same boat for Drive My Car. That's been in my queue for ages.

 

jfz9580m

(17,910 posts)
63. Oh yeah
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 06:05 PM
Apr 2022

That is the new Batman with the Twilight kid right? Though actually he must be middle-aged by now.
Yeah I don't really have time to watch half the crap that is on my list..I have Amazon streaming (I know..I know.. ) and just finished the first 2 seasons of The Boys...which was pretty good..I want to get the Peacemaker at some point... I think that is HBO...

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
54. Finding out my friend was upset at anti-Hitler docs on Netflix
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 02:14 PM
Apr 2022

Would lead to a conversation, and it wouldn’t be on the value of Netflix.

GB_RN

(3,588 posts)
22. The Price Increases Netflix Has Instigated Lately Are Killing It For Me...
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 12:55 PM
Apr 2022

I'm waiting for a couple of series that they produce to end, and I'll be killing my subscription after that.

"[A]nti-Hitler documentaries..."? What in the absolute fuck? I can't even wrap my mind around that. If you're NOT anti-Hitler, anti-Nazi/anti-fascist, that means you ARE a fascist/Nazi, at least by tacit approval of them, if not by implicit approval. Jesus H. Christ...🤦‍♂️

GB_RN

(3,588 posts)
56. I Rarely Go To The Theater Anymore...
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 02:32 PM
Apr 2022

As I have family members who are immunocompromised, and most of the movies I watch end up on Disney+ or Amazon Prime. No need to carry the extra subscriptions.

milestogo

(23,203 posts)
36. Yup.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:15 PM
Apr 2022

Somethings got to give. A lot of people start out subscribing to several different services. Prices go up - whatever you watch the least gets cancelled. And if you realize you aren't watching it enough to cover the price of a couple of movies, you cancel.

aggiesal

(10,915 posts)
32. I believe the increase in price they implemented was partly cause for a decrease in customers ...
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:04 PM
Apr 2022

March 23, 2020, the pricing package increased
its standard plan by $1.50, to $15.49, and its basic plan by $1 to $9.99.
The premium plan increased $2 per month, to $19.99

Layzeebeaver

(2,292 posts)
33. I dropped Netflix
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:04 PM
Apr 2022

Think about how many streaming services you will need to subscribe to in the future.

Netflix
Hulu
Paramount
Prime err... Bezo-vision
Peacock

Plus you will have your cable
and your broadband

just for media how much will you pay and for what bits?

I just gave up. Cancelled it all and will stick to buying a movie I want when I want.

Response to Samrob (Original post)

cstanleytech

(28,595 posts)
38. Been thinking about canceling it myself but won't
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:26 PM
Apr 2022

as my brother and his wife enjoy it.
As for why it’s simply that these days I would rather read than watch tv though I do enjoy some current shows such as the new Star Trek: Discovery over on the Paramount streaming service.

avebury

(11,201 posts)
45. I picked up Kindle Unlimited for $30 for 6 months to try it out.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:45 PM
Apr 2022

I am keeping track of what I read and what the price would be if I were to buy the kindle books. So far it is a really good deal and I will probably keep it when the 6 months is over. So I have been reading a lot more. i also love audiobooks too.

BumRushDaShow

(172,285 posts)
40. T-Mobile bought Sprint
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:27 PM
Apr 2022

and started doing the conversions. I went on and finally did mine last month and because of the plan that I got, I also got a free Netflix sub with that plan. When I had Sprint, they had given me a free Hulu sub for the same type of circumstance of it being included in a plan.

So it's possible, depending on what soon-to-be-former Sprint customers do (if they decide to do the move to T-Mobile), there might be a chunk of them who end up with a Netflix sub (if they don't already have it).

vsrazdem

(2,194 posts)
42. I heard Netflix is fed up with password sharing, and they were planning
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:35 PM
Apr 2022

to implement a new system where they would charge extra for other IP address access. Which basically means if you are on vacation, at work or staying somewhere else, you were going to be charged extra for accessing their app anywhere outside your home. Yes, this might prevent password sharing, but you are going to lose customers doing this, which is apparently what is happening.

PS. This has not been implemented yet, but apparently word is spreading and I think customers are just disgusted with the idea. I heard this about 2 weeks ago.

avebury

(11,201 posts)
44. I come and go on Netflix. If I get to a period where I
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:41 PM
Apr 2022

am not watching it that much, I cancel it for a while.

I probably watch Pluto TV the most these days and it is free. The added a Stargate Channel so I have been watching that channel the most.

Bluesaph

(1,026 posts)
47. I love Netflix but they are greedy bastards
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 01:51 PM
Apr 2022

Used to be you could share your password amongst friends and family. I pay for HBO and my son pays Netflix and we share. Neither of us watches much so it’s not worth it to have a subscription for each of us. Just like renting a video and sharing it with someone before you return it.

Well Netflix will have none of that! Now they are charging a per person fee.

I don’t watch it enough to pay my own subscription. It has been nice to have for the once in a while I want to sit and watch a movie or documentary. Not enough to have another monthly bill.

paulkienitz

(1,514 posts)
51. Netflix is mostly dying of streaming fragmentation
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 02:05 PM
Apr 2022

When every movie has an exclusive deal so it's only available on one streaming service out of twenty, nobody's going to pay for all twenty and nobody's going to get decent content out of any given one.

ToxMarz

(3,066 posts)
52. Conservative's been after Netflix for awhile
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 02:12 PM
Apr 2022

My mom (Faux News victim) canceled I guess about a year ago over the Faux news manufactured outrage over the movie "Cuties" which they (and thus she) labeled PORN!!! She and all her friends where OUTRAGED!

I watched a little of it as a result. Couldn't watch it all (not my type of movie), but not because it was in any way PORN!. I think the whole reason Faux targeted it was because it was about a Muslim young girl main character from a Muslim producer (or director?, I don't remember) and was getting all kinds of good international press. But Netflix promoted it with a somewhat racy movie poster and the girls (characters) where young teens. Start of the current pedophile/groomer era I guess.

mysteryowl

(9,350 posts)
61. Netflix needs to add movies with topics other than murder.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 05:40 PM
Apr 2022

Even SNL did a skit on the excessive "murder" content.






pwb

(12,802 posts)
62. I watch Netflix all the time and love it no matter the cost.
Wed Apr 20, 2022, 05:44 PM
Apr 2022

I will never get Cable T. V. again or until I don't have to pay for channels I never watch, like Fox.

Emile

(43,271 posts)
66. They want to remain competitive, they need to stop making excuses and
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 10:16 AM
Apr 2022

drop their price! It's that simple!

msfiddlestix

(8,183 posts)
67. I cancelled because I increasingly found it difficult to search out viewable films
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 10:23 AM
Apr 2022

I am not a fan of dark themes with gratuitous violence and psycho nut jobs, or "action" films with countless explosions and chase scenes that go on endlessly. It seemed I had to "work" too hard to find the kind of films I enjoy which have been easier to find and select on Prime. I had been thinking of cancelling Netflix for years, but never did. Then they increased their rates.

Since I mostly watch films on Prime which is free to me, including Hoopla and Kanopy, I decided to cut the cord with Netflix after being a customer for nearly 20 years.

nothing to do with all the "anti-hitler" stuff.


bif

(27,230 posts)
68. I used to have a ton of Netflix movies in my queue
Thu Apr 21, 2022, 12:00 PM
Apr 2022

Now it's down to about 30 or 40. That's still a lot of good viewing in my book. Plus I've had it for probably 20 years. So I'll stick with it.

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