Have the Russians suicided the Oligarchs to get a message across to the rest of

[Peacetrain]

the Oli's and Putinistas to keep them in line... and is that why people from Trump to Tucker keep backing Putin out of fear of being suicided..

As Mr Peacetrain observed this AM.. those two Oligarchs and their families that were supposedly killed by the Olis and the Oli committed suicide (oli =oligarch.. just tired of typing it out) were the families really killed by the Russians to inflict more pain and fear into all those who have made a deal with that devil Putin..

Its a dark dark thought.. but look at all the mayhem they have done in Ukraine..

[lapfog_1]

1. I thought this was obvious.

and for extra torture... kill the children first then the wife and finally the Oligarch.

This is a message to all.

BTW, my understanding is that neither of these "suicides" were under sanctions... so I believe that means they still had their money and the rest of their lives to spend it. Not exactly a recipe for suicide.

[Peacetrain]

4. If the Russians underwrote Trump through Deutsche Bank... then you know they did the same

for other politicians.. Le Pen etc.. they stole all the money from the Russian people to buy politicians world wide... and now they own them.. and they have to keep them in line.. its the only thing that makes any kind of sense

[erronis]

14. What to do with a US congress-critter that tries to cash his rubles?

I expect to see Marco, Cruz, Greene, Bobbert, etc. whining that they can't convert their holdings.

Moscow's Mitch along with his connections to China may be a bit less worried.

I think it's time to get some serious money tracing. Thanks to ICIJ, ProPublica and others. Now the US and other governments need to put some real teeth into clawing back stolen/illegal money, crippling accounting and legal firms that aid and abet, and throwing a bunch of crooks in the hoosegow. (https://www.etymonline.com/word/hoosegow)

[50 Shades Of Blue]

2. That was my first thought.

[soldierant]

21. -------------One such incident we might have had a discussion about.

Two such incidents - even in two different countries - simultanwously - it screams aloud.

[CTyankee]

3. After what has happened in the Ukrainian War I am ready to believe this theory.

[C_U_L8R]

5. It's kill or be killed

If they don't oust Putin, it's pretty clear what will happen. They just need to admit it and do something.

[Hortensis]

6. So far the deaths of Sergei Protosenya and Vladislav Avayev and families

not reported on by major investigative media. Presumably busy verifying what they can initially report as their investigations dig.

[AntiFascist]

7. Reported by Newsweek here...

https://www.newsweek.com/russian-oligarch-family-dead-spain-1699660

but investigation trying to figure if Spanish deaths were a mob hit or murder suicide.

[Hortensis]

12. Newsweek was killed by a new owner, who kept the name for a new tabloid.

A while ago now. Mass resignation of most journalistic and management staff, etc.

Sad, but no RIP for the once great Newsweek name.

[calimary]

15. That used to be required reading every week in my high school civics class.

I still remember the nun exhorting “girls! READ your NEWSWEEK!”

Sigh. Sad news about a once-credible publication.

[AntiFascist]

22. Anyway, here is the Spanish story that was referenced...

Google translated to English:

...snip
Although sex crime is the number one hypothesis of investigators, given some details of the crime scene and given the profile of Sergey Protoshenya, a wealthy Russian oligarch linked to the Novatek company, and the coincidence that the same A case has been detected in Moscow of another executive also linked to the gas company who allegedly killed his wife and daughter and committed suicide, the investigation wants to spin thin and make sure it's not a well-planned triple murder to pass it off as a crime of domestic violence with suicide.
snip...

https://www.elpuntavui.cat/punt-divers/article/4-divers/2129131-la-matanca-de-lloret-crim-domestic-o-mafios.html

[Hortensis]

24. Thanks. Radio Free Europe also reports Spain's investigating

possible suicide-murder v murder. Of course the latter seems all too plausible. But so does the former.

The reminder I wanted to make is that there is no post-truth world, even if social media is an open invitation to us all to join those who fool themselves all the time. Whatever did happen is real.

[Arazi]

20. Mob hit. By Putin and his Russian mob government

[Fla Dem]

8. I never thought for a minute that it wasn't a Putin Execution.

[gibraltar72]

9. I thought he was simply getting rid of people

who know where the other bodies are buried. It is getting hard to figure out if the "murders" happened before or after the suicides.

[gab13by13]

10. Coming to America if we lose our democracy.

[SergeStorms]

17. Suiciding our oligarchs?

You said that like it was a bad thing, gab13by13.

[Raster]

11. It's just Putler* tidying up loose ends.

[ElementaryPenguin]

13. Yes.

Without question.

[mitch96]

16. As stated to me this has the stench of a mafia style message.. nt

[KPN]

18. Absolutely. These two were lower ranking I would suspect.

No question it was a message.

[C Moon]

19. Meanwhile, chickenshit putin is hiding in a bunker somewhere.

I hope someone devises a way to blow his body to bits.

[mountain grammy]

23. I figured Putin would poison him when

He didn’t win re-election but he invaded Ukraine instead. Putin still dreaming of running America again.