DU question about the rules: Re: Sinema

[AZLD4Candidate]

If we have a primary challenge against her, do we still need to be held to the rule of not attacking Democrats since the primary challenger isn't an elected Democrat to the position?

[AZSkiffyGeek]

1. Why worry about it now?

You have two years before it’s an issue.

[VarryOn]

2. If I were on a jury...

I would vote against anyone attacking her. There’s a way to support another Democratic candidate without attacking another. After all, chances are she would be the general election candidate given she’s an incumbent.

[AZSkiffyGeek]

3. I honestly think she'll run independent in 24

At which point supporting her over a Dem candidate would break the rules. But I think since she caucuses w the Dems (assuming she does) you couldn’t attack her.

[qazplm135]

19. well she can't do that and run in the Dem primary

as AZ has a sore loser law, so that's a choice she has to make from the start.

[AZProgressive]

5. Gallego polls better than Sinema

It isn’t even close.

Kyrsten Sinema Would Lose 2024 Arizona Primary in a Landslide: Poll

https://www.newsweek.com/kyrsten-sinema-filibuster-senate-gallego-arizona-1673493

[LonePirate]

6. Her likely challenger is respected US Rep. Ruben Gallego. He will be a formidable opponent.

Gallego will have plenty of fans here on DU given his positions. Sinema will have a very tough primary on her hands and could easily lose the race.

[AZLD4Candidate]

9. I'm in Arizona. I would vote for a murder hornet before her ever again.

[former9thward]

18. That is not the question.

Yes, he can probably win a primary. But can he win a state-wide general election? That is doubtful.

[AZProgressive]

20. He can

Arizona is trending blue and will be bluer in the future with demographic changes unless voter suppression is widely successful

[elleng]

4. 'Attack' differs from 'discuss.'

[Hekate]

11. Bingo

[Claustrum]

7. I think it depends on what types of attack you do.

If you are talking about her horrible record on some key democratic policies/issues, that's definitely fine because it's used to contrast the differences between the candidates.

But if you want to do the republican/TFG attacks like "little hands Marco", "his wife is ugly", of course those kinds of attacks are not appropriate.

[AZLD4Candidate]

8. Attacking her voting record, policy positions, cowardice, and her attempted destruction of the Party

plans while in control of Congress.

[tirebiter]

10. Sinema. Is, at best, a placeholder. A Dino in reality

[rzemanfl]

12. Bookmarking.

[MichMan]

13. Sinema and Machin get attacked here regularly

and even accused of taking bribes by some posters

[tirebiter]

14. There seemed to be amnesty for shitting on Al Franken

[StevieM]

15. The primary would almost be an afterthought at this point.

If she runs, it would not be a competitive race. There would be no doubt as to who would win, and no possibility of a remotely close contest. She will do about as well as the Democrats who ran against Hillary in NY in 2000 and 2006, which means 17-18 percent of the vote.

In 2006 Joe Lieberman lost to Ned Lamont, but it wasn't a forgone conclusion. Lieberman had a path to victory, even though it didn't happen for him. In 2012, if Lieberman had run again, it would not have been nearly as close. He would have been absolutely destroyed. That is what Sinema is looking at if she runs again: hypothetical Lieberman 2012, not Lieberman 2006.

[Calista241]

16. You can say that, but it's nearly 3 years until anyone actually has to cast a ballot for her race.

And Arizona is not California or New York. She has a crazy amount of money in the bank, and she will be a formidable Senate candidate.

We can't even get people to remember January 6th, and that was a nearly completed coup attempt a little over 1 year ago. On lists of shit they're concerned about, Jan 6th doesn't even make the list of a vast majority of voters. What makes anyone think her vote on a Senate rule change from 3 years ago will be important or be remembered by Arizona voters then?

In addition, 2024 will be a Presidential election year, and the vast percentage of voters mindshare will be focused on the executive race. And god help us if Trump is running again, I don't know if I'm ready for 24/7 news coverage of that douchebag again.

[qazplm135]

17. I guess you'll have to clarify the difference

between attack and criticize.

Because I have no problem with the latter, and she deserves much of it.

[AZLD4Candidate]

21. If we say anything negative about a Democrat, it could be construed as attacking

even if we criticize hard.

Because I have nothing good to say about Sinema at all. She's my senior senator.