Two more dead Russian generals!

[Tomconroy]

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[dalton99a]

1. Most excellent

[Aviation Pro]

2. Keep banging your gums on unencrypted devices

You fucking morons.

[Ocelot II]

4. If they didn't have unencrypted devices they wouldn't have any devices at all.

Back to carrier pigeons, I guess.

[Aviation Pro]

5. Or runners

Or stringing line to crank field phones.

[Warpy]

40. Putin seems to have an inexhaustible supply of generals

likely promoted to that rank through their loyalty to him rather than their military competence.

Besides, it's cheaper to get them picked off via i-phone conversation than it is to develop secure communications.

(Yes, I'm a sarcastic old bat but I suspect it's close to the truth)

[Walleye]

3. Sounds like their whole army consists of generals and conscripts

[sop]

18. And the generals outnumber the conscripts.

[Walleye]

19. My boyfriend wa an army paratrooper in the 50s He said it was sergeants that wonWorld War II for us

As depicted I suppose in the movie Sahara with Humphrey Bogart

[Duncanpup]

41. Airborne so true NCO's run the show.

[mitch96]

54. Fury was another one.. Sgt Pitt was great.. nt

[CaptainTruth]

49. For how much longer?

[Fullduplexxx]

48. General idiots and conscripts

[Comfortably_Numb]

6. I'm a little weepy eyed....I'm a sucker for happy endings.

Yes I realize that these generals are people, and people dying is little cause to celebrate. Unless that death serves to spare the lives of innocent Ukrainians.

[liberalla]

42. These generals are dying so Ukrainians can live. I support and appreciate their sacrifice!

However,

If I was a general, I would seriously be questioning putin and this whole "war thing"...

[wnylib]

44. That is my mix of feelings, too.

It is good to hear of these Ukrainian achievements, and I can cheer their successes. I hope they totally defeat the Russians.

But at the same time, I realize that I am cheering the deaths of human beings. Yet, it is in the name of saving even more human beings from torture and death.

And that is why war is such a terrible thing.

I know, sure as I sit here typing this, that if I were a Ukrainian facing this invasion, I would do the same, with any and every weapon that I could get my hands on.

[Crunchy Frog]

65. They're every bit as human as Osama bin Laden was.

And I'm just as sad about their deaths as I was about his.

[wnylib]

66. I admit that when I heard about OBL,

my immediate reaction was to raise my fist and cheer. I have never felt bad about that. As the leader behind 911, I felt, and still do, that he earned his end.

When I feel concerned about cheering the deaths of Russians, it is only because I know that some of them did not want this war and are young conscripts. The generals are obviously professional soldiers and they know that death is the risk of their chosen profession. But young conscripts got caught up in things beyond their control.

Then I read about and see the evidence of the massacres and tortures and think that the soldiers who carried them out would have been better off to have turned on their officers and shot them instead. And since they didn't, I feel less concern for them when they are killed.

In war, there is no social order. Many people do not have an internal compass when there is no external social order. They do things they would not have done otherwise. They become feral human beings.

That is the hideousness of war.

In the end, my sympathies and concerns are with the Ukrainian people and their sufferings and losses, the injustice of the attacks on civilians and bombing of civilian targets. And I know very well that, in the same situation as the Ukrainian people, I would retaliate with ruthless anger.

I am sad over the senseless loss of life that never should have been started. But since it has, I support giving the military and humanitarian aid that Ukraine needs. I pray for the Ukrainian people. But since I cannot bring myself to pray for someone's death, I pray for the Russians to be incapacitated in their ability to attack. The end result is probably the same since, if they are incapacitated, the Ukrainian fighters will move in on them. But that is the nature of war and the Russians brought on themselves whatever happens to them.

[niyad]

7. Only two?? Darn!!

[Igel]

58. Another is claimed to have been seriously wounded.

So maybe it'll turn out to be a hat trick.

One can hope.

[niyad]

60. Thank you for that encouraging note.

[dchill]

8. It's always been a dream of mine to become...

...a Russian general. Now, I just don't know.

[dalton99a]

9. There are benefits

[Comfortably_Numb]

12. Killed by a poisoned magnet?

[GB_RN]

17. The Guys Who Are Never At The Front...

Always seem to have the most medals. Military dictators are notorious for this shit, too.

Muamar Khadaffi had a penchant for flair* on his uniform, IIRC. The sawed off runt running Myanmar/Burma certainly does.

*A reference to the movie "Office Space".

[Disaffected]

23. Who cares about medals?

The hat is where it's at!

[dalton99a]

27. Oh, yeah

[paleotn]

31. Oh, no. Not the hats!!

They're HUUUUGE! Makes my neck hurt just to look at them.

[Evolve Dammit]

43. Would act like a sail on a windy day??

[Igel]

59. It's held down by a specially shaped flask of vodka. n/t

[Evolve Dammit]

64. Ha! Good one!

[wnylib]

50. What about those pointed old German helmets?

My head hurts just looking at pictures of them.

[OnlinePoker]

39. I was in the Canadian Navy in the 90's and sailed into Vladivostok

Part of our briefing said the larger the hat, the higher the rank. When we got there, we found out this was true.

[sarge43]

34. That's Georgy Zhukov. He was no poser.

Started as a conscripted private, Eastern Front WWI. Somehow survived. The horrors of the Eastern Front match the Western, at least the troops in the West had half way decent logistics.

Climbed the greasy pole during the 20's and 30's, including surviving Stalin's purges of the Red Army.

WWII and he came into his own. Lead several campaigns and won them, among others the Battle of Kursk and Operation Bagration. Finished off by rolling up the German army on the Eastern Front, giving the USSR most of Eastern Europe.

Stalin feared him as he should have. Zhukov had the Red Army in his holster. When that monster died, Zhukov supported Khrushchev in getting rid of another monster, Beria.

A good thing today's Red Army generals aren't anything like Georgy or we'd have a lot more to talk about than what MTG is up to this week.

[liberalla]

45. Thank you for that background on Georgy. His name is familiar but I didn't

know any of his history. Very interesting.

[sarge43]

52. You're welcome.

If you haven't watched it, recommend the film The Death of Stalin. Jason Isaacs portrays Georgie in the weeks following Stalin's death. Isaacs nails the 'no more coitus left to give' attitude perfectly.

[liberalla]

61. Okay! I just put it on hold at the library. I was expecting a serious, weighty, dark historical film

but they describe it as a comedy! I wasn't expecting that. A dark comedy I'm sure! A recent reviewer said, "a roaringly funny, black comedy. The volatile homocidal lunacy of Stalinist Russia, laid bare."

Sounds good - I'm in! Thanks again.

[sarge43]

62. In some scenes, very dark, especially Beria's.

I insult monsters when I called him one.

However, most scenes, send in the clowns. I love films when the actors are clearly having fun.

Enjoy.

[Aristus]

38. In peacetime, a lot of the medals Russia awards are basically participation trophies.

For things like successful completion of training objectives in a maneuver exercise that in the U.S. Army would warrant a certificate or a letter of commendation, in the Russian Army, they get a medal. Those can add up.

[Hortensis]

16. :) It was once obviously theirs also. Far more have died

in the last decade of Russia's warfare in Ukraine. They're not safe back at their headquarters either.

Poor generals.

[multigraincracker]

10. While Russia will win some battles, they will never

win the war. They WILL go broke and hungry until Russia has a regime change and Pootie is gone and never forgotten.

[KS Toronado]

20. I hope Russia has a regime change

before Putler starts throwing nuclear bombs around. GO COUP GO!

[Wingus Dingus]

11. Twofer. Sweet!

[colorado_ufo]

13. Almost a "hat trick!"

[LetMyPeopleVote]

14. How many generals is this?

[Tomconroy]

36. It's 8 or 10 now. I've lost track.

[Generic Brad]

37. A lot - generally speaking

[Lasher]

46. Wiki says 7 so far.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_Russian_generals_killed_during_the_2022_invasion_of_Ukraine#:~:text=In%20addition%20to%20these%20flag,killed%20in%20Ukraine%20so%20far.

I guess these 2 are not yet included there.

[BootinUp]

15. Slava Ukraine

[mysteryowl]

21. This sounds rare for so many generals to be killed.

They must be carrying cell phones and "big brother" can find them.

[BeyondGeography]

22. Lots of informants in Kherson

Works both ways, but Ukraine is playing on home turf.

[paleotn]

29. Russian communications are a disaster. I just don't get it.

Graft maybe? It's pathetic.

https://www.economist.com/the-economist-explains/2022/03/28/why-russian-radios-ukraine-war-intercepted-heavy-metal

[AllaN01Bear]

33. friend of mine can monitor russian comms in the clear , in the clear on 200 mc using a simple walki

talki. another friend of mine can monitor the russian comms on 5mc and 10 mc shortwave radio. never transmit sensative information on a open , unsecure channel in the clear , and btw , make sure it is scrambled and encoded .

[paleotn]

24. They're fast running out of generals.

[Disaffected]

25. And this is the appropriate forum

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to discuss it.

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[Iggo]

26. I wonder if Ukraine has powerful friends with advanced tracking abilities.

[Otto_Harper]

55. Might be those same guys who

during the crisis over the shoot-down of KAL-007, released cockpit voice comms of individual planes and pilots within Russia during that operation. I expect their capabilities have improved a whole bunch even since then.

[relayerbob]

28. Add in the generals and admirals that Putin is arresting and firing

and what little competence and experience exists in their military will soon be gone. They'll be being led by a dog catcher from Siberia

[llashram]

30. if true, good

die dogs!!!

[Takket]

32. who says the news is always bad?

[lpbk2713]

35. They're dropping off like flies.

Russian flies.

[Justice matters.]

47. US "birds" will eat 'em cooked...

Only scary part is those should never be used by any "domestic" fascist-coup regime...

[Duncanpup]

51. Kill them

These raping butchers need to die this is not a army it’s a herd of evil.

[AdamGG]

53. Russian generals seem to have the life expectancy of...

a member of the crew who's never appeared on the show before, who beams down to a planet with Captain Kirk on Star Trek.

[Ocelot II]

56. Or of Al Qaeda #2 commanders.

They might have had better luck working for Al Qaeda.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

57. We now go live to the ceremony honoring newly promoted Russian generals.

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[Jilly_in_VA]

63. If it was 7 generals before,

the Ukrainians are now 9 out of 20. That's a pretty good score, wouldn't you say? Not to mention the rather large number of colonels, upwards of 10 per my spousal unit. My theory is that Vlad is afraid of his general staff, including Shugoi. Stalin was, if anyone knows history or is old enough to remember.

[LetMyPeopleVote]

67. Milestone

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