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Will these historic mysteries ever be solved? (Original Post) BlueGreenLady Apr 2022 OP
I had never seen the following video. Note the swing of the arm. Frustratedlady Apr 2022 #1
Yes, there appears to be an BlueGreenLady Apr 2022 #4
OMG. dchill Apr 2022 #16
Not sure what's gotten at here. Igel Apr 2022 #17
They have ID'd the shoes worn by the person in the alley and they have pics of in2herbs Apr 2022 #28
Thank you tikka Apr 2022 #21
Holly crap Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #30
I don't see it. MTG is much more buxom than this person, who seems flat chested. Joinfortmill Apr 2022 #40
I thought of that too lunatica Apr 2022 #42
I'm still waitng to find out who conspired and acted to kill JFK. It's like some people in abqtommy Apr 2022 #2
A guy by the name of Lamar Waldron Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #31
Co-written by Thom Hartmann. I'll pass. yardwork Apr 2022 #33
Post removed Post removed Apr 2022 #34
Read Mary's Mosaic by Peter Janney 7wo7rees Apr 2022 #35
Thanks. I'll look into the book. What I really want is official government info but I'm not abqtommy Apr 2022 #37
Thanks, I'll look into that. What I really want is information at the government level. nt abqtommy Apr 2022 #36
Too bad you hate Thom Hartmann so badly Farmer-Rick Apr 2022 #43
I'm not sure you meant this reply for me since I didn't write anything about Thom. I did abqtommy Apr 2022 #45
Did law enforcement dust for fingerprints? raging moderate Apr 2022 #3
ALERT: looking for suspect with bleached blond hair and a stilted arm movement. erronis Apr 2022 #5
Given shoulder/hip width ratio, Igel Apr 2022 #18
It looks that way in the top photo. Not so much in the video tikka Apr 2022 #20
yeah, and she was sweating her ass off during her testimony... Trueblue Texan Apr 2022 #6
I think it's who controlled the operation bucolic_frolic Apr 2022 #7
My first time seeing that video. I saw the other one with the bomb planter... brush Apr 2022 #8
Which Republican traitor? Achilleaze Apr 2022 #9
Waterboard Roger Stone. My guess is, he knows where all the pieces fit on Jan 6. 70sEraVet Apr 2022 #10
I agree. I say give him the full rendition tour of the Mideast. Hotler Apr 2022 #38
Many of those questions are undoubtedly being asked by the Capitol Police Warpy Apr 2022 #11
Imo, they could find out who planted the bombs if they wanted to. blueinredohio Apr 2022 #12
THEY already know the answers to these questions. Haggis 4 Breakfast Apr 2022 #13
Sadly - very sadly - I agree with you. dchill Apr 2022 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author dchill Apr 2022 #26
There are times when the power that be determine that others can not handle the truth. LiberalArkie Apr 2022 #14
"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize" keithbvadu2 Apr 2022 #15
...Film at 11:00 ? Ford_Prefect Apr 2022 #19
Yes to all of the above, plus JFK's And RFK's assassinations... electric_blue68 Apr 2022 #22
The person in the gray hoodie appears male (to me) FakeNoose Apr 2022 #23
The timing, or rhythm of the steps is practically identical. dchill Apr 2022 #24
Also who was the goon who threatened Stormy Daniels in Vegas ? rickford66 Apr 2022 #27
Panic Button Panic! reACTIONary Apr 2022 #29
Get the Select Committee right on it! nt Samrob Apr 2022 #32
Inquiring minds want to know. Joinfortmill Apr 2022 #39
And why were only 2 or 3 Capitol Hill cops inside the building? ecstatic Apr 2022 #41
In Florida the latest mystery is whether Gonzo is bisexual. Emile Apr 2022 #44

Igel

(35,720 posts)
17. Not sure what's gotten at here.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 07:06 PM
Apr 2022

It's certainly the same person, and the bag has weight.

That means that the person has to lean to maintain the right center of gravity. (Person's walking, so "center of mass" is a bit wrong.)

The additional mass and shift in CoG will alter step cadence. Beyond that, not my thing.

What's left are visuals--clothing, height, width.

in2herbs

(2,988 posts)
28. They have ID'd the shoes worn by the person in the alley and they have pics of
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 10:40 PM
Apr 2022

MTG going down the capital steps in the exact kind of shoe. So at least there's proof she owns the same pair of shoes. Let science handle the rest.

Farmer-Rick

(10,584 posts)
30. Holly crap
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 09:25 AM
Apr 2022

Geez, she's nothing more than a masked criminal. Funny that she's wearing a mask in the act of setting up something nefarious but rails against wearing masks to protect people's health. Hypocrit much?

Wow, she's dressed to burglar something. That swinging arm is a dead giveaway. Not to mention the height and shape and speed and overall arrogant demeanor.

Nefarious little GOPer.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
42. I thought of that too
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 02:38 PM
Apr 2022

I guess it’s possible for a woman to look flat chested if she wears very large tops, but my feeling is that her breasts would have shown through at least a little with all that arm swinging.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
2. I'm still waitng to find out who conspired and acted to kill JFK. It's like some people in
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:28 PM
Apr 2022

high places with lots of money don't want us to know. We still haven't got the unredacted
Mueller Report. Will the January 6 Committee break this cycle? We'll see.

Farmer-Rick

(10,584 posts)
31. A guy by the name of Lamar Waldron
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 09:36 AM
Apr 2022

Co-Wrote a book called Legacy of Secrecy.

In it he meticulously details the evidence that shows organized crime murdered him while the FBI and Secret Service let them.

It's a thick book with a huge amount of footnotes from documents released about 10 years ago.

The evidence in the book is overwhelming. If you are into the details of JFK's murder and others that followed, it gives a lot of facts and events.

Response to yardwork (Reply #33)

7wo7rees

(5,128 posts)
35. Read Mary's Mosaic by Peter Janney
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 12:00 PM
Apr 2022

This book alone rocked my world. I heard an NPR interview with author and ordered book same day. When received, I did not stop reading.
Ms.7wo7rees

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
37. Thanks. I'll look into the book. What I really want is official government info but I'm not
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 01:24 PM
Apr 2022

holding my breath.

Farmer-Rick

(10,584 posts)
43. Too bad you hate Thom Hartmann so badly
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 08:21 AM
Apr 2022

Because Legacy of Secrecy is just that. It meticulously looks through government documents to identify who was where, when and how and why. And notes which documents and people the info came from.

I read that Mary's Mosaic . It's a good read but I was not convinced.

Though to tell you honestly I don't think Thom had much to do with the book. It's too specific and dense for Thom's style of writing. I think Lamar put Thom's name on the book to up his sales. It's soooo detailed and full of interesting facts.

But hay, your choice, your life.

abqtommy

(14,118 posts)
45. I'm not sure you meant this reply for me since I didn't write anything about Thom. I did
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 08:52 AM
Apr 2022

make written notes so I can search out the books recommended here. Thanks for
your input anyway.

raging moderate

(4,388 posts)
3. Did law enforcement dust for fingerprints?
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:30 PM
Apr 2022

What about hair left around the pipe bombs, panic button, etc.? This imaging technique also looks promising to me! Plus cadence analysis, well, no wonder they called this woman in to be questioned.

erronis

(15,977 posts)
5. ALERT: looking for suspect with bleached blond hair and a stilted arm movement.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:53 PM
Apr 2022

Around DC that would probably be most critters/lobbyists that are used to pumping their arms for affect.

(Please notice that I did not assign any sexual or racial attributes to said suspect. It might even be a non human species, just to be safe.)

Igel

(35,720 posts)
18. Given shoulder/hip width ratio,
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 07:08 PM
Apr 2022

I'd say XY chromosomes, unless hormone therapy/hormone blockers administered before age 12.

Trueblue Texan

(2,564 posts)
6. yeah, and she was sweating her ass off during her testimony...
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:53 PM
Apr 2022

...it was great to see her sweat like that. She'd better get used to the heat.

bucolic_frolic

(44,630 posts)
7. I think it's who controlled the operation
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 04:57 PM
Apr 2022

rather than simply who. There were accomplices. That's a lot of expertise and access.

brush

(55,199 posts)
8. My first time seeing that video. I saw the other one with the bomb planter...
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:19 PM
Apr 2022

out on the street. He/she was tall and thin, unlike this person who happens to be short and squat looking, sorta like Greene.

70sEraVet

(3,721 posts)
10. Waterboard Roger Stone. My guess is, he knows where all the pieces fit on Jan 6.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:32 PM
Apr 2022

Of course, Im not serious about the waterboarding -- not, not serious.

Hotler

(11,645 posts)
38. I agree. I say give him the full rendition tour of the Mideast.
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 01:42 PM
Apr 2022

And garb Mike Flynn, Sean Hannity while we at it just for fun.

Warpy

(112,166 posts)
11. Many of those questions are undoubtedly being asked by the Capitol Police
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:35 PM
Apr 2022

Regular members of Congress wouldn't have known about the unreinforced windows or how to disable panic buttons.

Some police and some maintenance crew would have.

As for the pipe bombs, who knows? One thing we know for certain is that the bomber was incompetent. It's not that easy to make something go boom when you want it to without blowing yourself up in the process and the bozo wasn't up to the job.

Fingerprinting isn't magic, clear prints are unusual, it's more often a smear and a partial. Then the print has to be on file somewhere.

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,455 posts)
13. THEY already know the answers to these questions.
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 05:47 PM
Apr 2022

They just aren't telling US.

Given our technology, I refuse to believe that they don't have the answers. There are times when we are not provided with intel on certain things because the outrage/panic/fear response of our citizenry would be uncontrollable.

Response to Haggis 4 Breakfast (Reply #13)

keithbvadu2

(37,995 posts)
15. "To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 06:41 PM
Apr 2022

"To learn who rules over you, simply find out who you are not allowed to criticize"

Voltaire often gets credit for saying it but it was not him.

electric_blue68

(15,773 posts)
22. Yes to all of the above, plus JFK's And RFK's assassinations...
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:43 PM
Apr 2022

wait... what's this about Mike Pence's key card? Missed that!: (I'll look it up)
Yeah, I know about his refusal to get in the car (and the noose, and chants).

FakeNoose

(33,933 posts)
23. The person in the gray hoodie appears male (to me)
Sat Apr 23, 2022, 08:53 PM
Apr 2022

I can't see a bodily resemblance to Perjury Traitor Greene.

The chest, the hips, the shoulders, the posture all look male to me, not female. Maybe it's a similar cadence or "step," but that's not enough to ID someone.

reACTIONary

(5,858 posts)
29. Panic Button Panic!
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 07:57 AM
Apr 2022
https://wapo.st/3v6n5qx

A Democratic aide to the House Administration Committee, which is examining the matter, tells me that the preliminary belief is that it might have been a mistake. He emailed:

A preliminary investigation suggests that Pressley’s office was inadvertently placed on the Architect of the Capitol move list, and a vendor wrongly removed their duress buttons through a clerical screw-up.

ecstatic

(33,232 posts)
41. And why were only 2 or 3 Capitol Hill cops inside the building?
Sun Apr 24, 2022, 01:56 PM
Apr 2022

If it weren't for those heroic (black) cops, mtg and her co-conspirators might have been killed right alongside Democrats. Do the qOP members really think they would have been recognized or spared?

Emile

(25,495 posts)
44. In Florida the latest mystery is whether Gonzo is bisexual.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 08:28 AM
Apr 2022

I still think it was Marjorie Taylor Greene who planted the pipe bombs.

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