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Coventina

(27,159 posts)
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 02:44 PM Apr 2022

My husband works very closely with an anti-vaxxer

About a year ago, the guy came down with COVID. He's young (late 20s), but still ended up in the hospital.
He didn't need a ventilator, but he was in the hospital for a week or so with it.

Guess what? He just came down with COVID again.

He thought he was protected because he recovered.

Something tells me that we are going to be dealing with this wily virus forever.

And, the people who refuse to get vaccinated are the ones encouraging it to keep us guessing about its next move.

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My husband works very closely with an anti-vaxxer (Original Post) Coventina Apr 2022 OP
My mortgage broker Johnny2X2X Apr 2022 #1
Because admitting he was wrong is not in his lexicon. Like all tRumpies. flying_wahini Apr 2022 #14
Let's go Darwin........ Jack from Charlotte Apr 2022 #21
post-covid immunity only lasts so long. maxsolomon Apr 2022 #2
Agree. I'm not pleased that my husband has to be around him so much. Coventina Apr 2022 #3
The flu vaccines aren't boosters. Crunchy Frog Apr 2022 #18
✔️ live love laugh Apr 2022 #33
I have a friend who got the first two shots... LuckyCharms Apr 2022 #4
Wait 'til they get their shingles vaccine, then. keep_left Apr 2022 #9
Yep, This RobinA Apr 2022 #10
I turned down the shingles vax and 4 months later louis-t Apr 2022 #19
That was actually the next topic of discussion! LuckyCharms Apr 2022 #11
I didn't think it was as terrible as some have experienced... keep_left Apr 2022 #13
I got the second shingles shot and then was called into work Skittles Apr 2022 #32
I only had a sore arm after both shots. I was not sick at all. Raftergirl Apr 2022 #28
Shingles was just not on my radar,.or I would have gotten the vax. LisaM Apr 2022 #31
I had both Shingrix shots last year between the COVID shots...been a banner year for vaccinations sdfernando Apr 2022 #12
Shingrix was easy on me misanthrope Apr 2022 #20
Husband got Shingrix Jilly_in_VA Apr 2022 #24
Both of 'em for me. Shingrix knocked me on my backside twice. AllyCat Apr 2022 #30
Did they Rebl2 Apr 2022 #15
IIRC, the Moderna shot was a bigger dose...nt Wounded Bear Apr 2022 #22
I had Moderna Jilly_in_VA Apr 2022 #25
That seems a little unfair. Your friend got the first 2 shots ecstatic Apr 2022 #34
I should have mentioned that their SO had to have LuckyCharms Apr 2022 #36
My young neighbor and his whole family are now immune because they all had Covid already. Midnight Writer Apr 2022 #5
Interesting Rebl2 Apr 2022 #23
Honestly? I'm hoping for natrural selection to take over at this point. Initech Apr 2022 #6
Yes, it's so maddening! Quakerfriend Apr 2022 #7
Hubby's boss is one who buys into the whole Q enchilada Runningdawg Apr 2022 #8
Kudos to you Coventina. roamer65 Apr 2022 #16
They don't know how the flu shot works, either. Iggo Apr 2022 #17
I have a friend who's waiting Mossfern Apr 2022 #26
Agreed Snackshack Apr 2022 #27
There will always be more variants FakeNoose Apr 2022 #29
I know 3 people who died after they thought they Emile Apr 2022 #35

Johnny2X2X

(19,095 posts)
1. My mortgage broker
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 02:50 PM
Apr 2022

Good friend of a friend. Did a fantastic job with my loan. Late 30s, 3 kids and a wife, in great shape. Anti Vaxxer, and a Covid minimizer, "it's just the flu people." Caught Covid, spent 6 weeks on a vent, lost 70 pounds, still struggling with day to day life months after he got out of the hospital. Still spewing anti vaccine nonsense and saying Covid is no big deal.

It's a cult.

Jack from Charlotte

(2,367 posts)
21. Let's go Darwin........
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:06 PM
Apr 2022

Here's a website that highlights antivaxxers who are very public with anti vax taunts and threats mostly via Facebook, directed to science and we who believe in science. Many are politicians and/or church leaders. Oops. They all get Covid. Read their families Facebook after Covid strikes. And then.... read the comments below. Manny comments are very funny and most are very harsh.

sorryantivaxer.com

maxsolomon

(33,357 posts)
2. post-covid immunity only lasts so long.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 02:51 PM
Apr 2022

it's like the flu. you get a vaccine every year to mitigate it's effects, not to make yourself 100% immune.

that said, fuck this guy. he's a walking variant vector.

Coventina

(27,159 posts)
3. Agree. I'm not pleased that my husband has to be around him so much.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 02:54 PM
Apr 2022

They are the only two people that work their particular job in the company. And, when the freak is out sick, that means my husband has to do the work of two people.

It's lose-lose.

Crunchy Frog

(26,609 posts)
18. The flu vaccines aren't boosters.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 04:43 PM
Apr 2022

They protect against particular strains which are different every year. When it's the same or a similar strain the immunity is longer term.

It's theorized that the reason older people were less affected by the Spanish Flu was due to another pandemic by a similar strain decades earlier.

LuckyCharms

(17,454 posts)
4. I have a friend who got the first two shots...
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 02:54 PM
Apr 2022

and then no boosters because they "got sicker than a dog" after the second shot, then recently got Covid, and said "the shot was worse".

Refuses to get any of the boosters.

I tried explaining to them that they would have most likely been a lot sicker when they got Covid, had it not been for the first two shots, and that they would be doing themselves and everyone around them a favor if they got the boosters.

I also explained that I got "sick" as well with all 4 shots, but that they were not really sick, it was just the immune system building up defenses.

The response? "yeah, I think I read that somewhere".

Fuck these people. They're babies. They're whiners. They have no legitimate reason not to get vaxxed and boosted. They only think of themselves.

Fuck 'em. Sideways.

Fucking idiots.

keep_left

(1,788 posts)
9. Wait 'til they get their shingles vaccine, then.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 03:10 PM
Apr 2022

If they think the mRNA Covid vax makes them feel sick, they've got another thing coming when they get Shingrix. You'll never hear the end of it when your friend gets either shot #1 or #2. It's unpredictable as to which shot will have the worst effect, but nearly everyone complains about one of them. I'm not complaining myself, since shingles can be incredibly painful and sometimes can even lead to a hospital stay.

It's a great thing that we have these vaccines, even with the side effects. I guess we're going to have to go back to the days of the killer childhood (and even adulthood) diseases to get people to wise up.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
10. Yep, This
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 03:14 PM
Apr 2022

I've had four COVID vaxes, sore arm only. The second Shingrix? Not fun. The first was nothing.

louis-t

(23,296 posts)
19. I turned down the shingles vax and 4 months later
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 04:55 PM
Apr 2022

I got shingles. I didn't know the vax could be bad. I took the pneumonia vax and was sick as a dog for 4 days.

LuckyCharms

(17,454 posts)
11. That was actually the next topic of discussion!
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 03:17 PM
Apr 2022

I think nearly everyone feels like death after the shingles vax.

The person I am talking about is not getting the shingles vax either. OK, fine, don't get the vax, and when you do get a horrible case of shingles, make everyone around you fucking wait on you hand and foot because you're in so much pain, and tax the already overburdened health care system even further.

All this stuff is a hot button for me. Grown adults being afraid of not feeling well for a little while after getting a shot. Everyone whines about everything.

My wife and I felt so sick after our shingles vax that we were actually laughing about how ridiculously bad we felt.

But, I'd do it again if it was necessary.

We are like minded. I am a big believer in vaccines. I got the worse flu of my life after getting the flu vaccine a few years ago, but that didn't deter me from continuing to get a flu shot.

keep_left

(1,788 posts)
13. I didn't think it was as terrible as some have experienced...
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 03:42 PM
Apr 2022

...but it wasn't that much fun. A lot of chills, fever, no appetite, even some respiratory stuff (my doctor warned me some of the side effects mimic Covid). It was nothing that some Tylenol and an early bedtime didn't cure. But it was a lot worse than any of the Covid shots I had. Still I would recommend it to everyone because shingles can really be awful and can have severe complications that will land you in a hospital.

Skittles

(153,174 posts)
32. I got the second shingles shot and then was called into work
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 07:57 PM
Apr 2022

worked 13 hours all night, felt very tired and run down but that's better than getting shingles

Raftergirl

(1,292 posts)
28. I only had a sore arm after both shots. I was not sick at all.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:32 PM
Apr 2022

I also only had a sore arm after the first shingles vaccine, also.

LisaM

(27,818 posts)
31. Shingles was just not on my radar,.or I would have gotten the vax.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 06:23 PM
Apr 2022

I didn't and I have been suffering from Shingles for almost two years. It's awful. They were on my face. If affected everything in my life. And it still hurts, especially when I am tired or stressed.

sdfernando

(4,937 posts)
12. I had both Shingrix shots last year between the COVID shots...been a banner year for vaccinations
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 03:39 PM
Apr 2022

for me. Nothing seems to affect me much though. Mostly just a sore shoulder for a few days. 1st COVID shot was the worst but not bad really. Lots of tiredness and very very mild flu symptoms along with the sore shoulder. I count myself VERY luck in that regard.

misanthrope

(7,420 posts)
20. Shingrix was easy on me
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 04:59 PM
Apr 2022

Same for the first three Pfizer COVID-19 shots. I mix matched with a Moderna for the most recent booster and it made me feel like a cold was coming on the day after. Cleared up after that.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,992 posts)
24. Husband got Shingrix
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:23 PM
Apr 2022

because I got shingles and he had to listen to me. After he got the second Covid shot he said it was worse than the Shingrix, so I guess it's all relative. But we've both had chickenpox, so there's that.

AllyCat

(16,205 posts)
30. Both of 'em for me. Shingrix knocked me on my backside twice.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:35 PM
Apr 2022

Having had shingles, I’d get the vaccine again if it was appropriate.

Rebl2

(13,536 posts)
15. Did they
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 04:32 PM
Apr 2022

get Moderna? I have had four Pfizer shots and didn’t get sick once. The first booster, I was a little tired but didn’t have that with second booster. You don’t have to get the same shot when it comes to boosters.

Jilly_in_VA

(9,992 posts)
25. I had Moderna
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:26 PM
Apr 2022

and the booster and didn't get sick at all. I was cold the evening I had the second shot but not like chills, just cold. Went to bed early and woke up feeling fine. No side effects from either of the others. But then, I rarely get any side effects from anything. I got side effects from a flu shot once, and I get those every single year. Had to, being a nurse, and just never stopped.

ecstatic

(32,723 posts)
34. That seems a little unfair. Your friend got the first 2 shots
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 09:18 AM
Apr 2022

so they're not antivax. I think most medical professionals recommend that we listen to our bodies after any type of medical procedure or drug. Doubling down and ignoring a bad reaction can lead to death.

LuckyCharms

(17,454 posts)
36. I should have mentioned that their SO had to have
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 09:58 AM
Apr 2022

horrendous nightly battles for TWO MONTHS before this person decided to even get the first vax. Screaming and crying fights for 2 months, every night.

So yes, this person is anti-vax, without coming out and admitting it.

And this person is a bar hopper who could care less who they spread their germs to.

Friend of mine.

Not going to be a friend for long though.

Sick of biting my tongue. This person is going to feel my wrath in a big way any day now. and when I let my feelings be known, I will lose a friend, but get this huge weight off my chest.

I can feel it coming. I'm so pissed off that I'm going to lose my shit on this person more than I ever have in my life. It's not just the vax issue, it's the sudden selfishness.

Midnight Writer

(21,780 posts)
5. My young neighbor and his whole family are now immune because they all had Covid already.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 02:55 PM
Apr 2022

According to him.

So, no vaccines, no boosters for him or his family.

I gave up trying to reason with this fellow a long time ago.

He also says kids don't get Covid, even though his kids all had Covid and, in fact, brought it home with them.

Rebl2

(13,536 posts)
23. Interesting
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:21 PM
Apr 2022

how they don’t hear the part where immunity from having Covid wears off after several months.

Initech

(100,096 posts)
6. Honestly? I'm hoping for natrural selection to take over at this point.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 03:02 PM
Apr 2022

Just rid the world of these anti-vaxxer idiots.

Quakerfriend

(5,451 posts)
7. Yes, it's so maddening!
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 03:03 PM
Apr 2022

They can have a mild case the first time and die the next time! - Not to mention that ~ 30% of ALL those who get Covid (even those who never even knew they had it) will get long covid in some form.

I’m so tired of this virus and the ignorance that the anti vaxxers hold on to 😫.

Runningdawg

(4,522 posts)
8. Hubby's boss is one who buys into the whole Q enchilada
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 03:06 PM
Apr 2022

He said he only got the vaccine so he could sue Biden. Yeah, we know you got it to keep your job. Nice try.

roamer65

(36,747 posts)
16. Kudos to you Coventina.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 04:37 PM
Apr 2022

I had been meaning to get my 4th shot.

You kicked me in the rear and I just got about an hour ago, due to this thread.

Iggo

(47,561 posts)
17. They don't know how the flu shot works, either.
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 04:38 PM
Apr 2022

And it ain’t hard. They’re just not that bright.

Mossfern

(2,537 posts)
26. I have a friend who's waiting
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:29 PM
Apr 2022

for Novavax to be approved. She goes to a "groovy doc" who approves (so she says). The breaking point for me was when she got very sick a few months ago and her "groovy doc" advised her to be tested for Covid, and that if it was positive that she would have at least a small amount of immunity. Somehow it was too inconvenient for her to go.

This a very intelligent person!
Apparently there are a few holes in the common sense department.

Snackshack

(2,541 posts)
27. Agreed
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:31 PM
Apr 2022

I don’t think COVID is going to go away as well and the people who are unvaccinated, who’s bodies somehow managed to fight off a previous infection or two are giving the virus all the opportunity it needs to incubate and mutate into something their body won’t be able to fight off the next time.

FakeNoose

(32,703 posts)
29. There will always be more variants
Mon Apr 25, 2022, 05:34 PM
Apr 2022

We need to protect ourselves and our loved ones. We need to act responsibly about this virus. Getting vaccinated (and boosted) was the first big step but we'll be dealing with this for the rest of our lives. The new variants are going to require more and bigger boosters, or something ... I don't know what.

When friends and co-workers (and family members) refuse to take this virus seriously, and when they act like it's a "hoax," well they're just wearing blinders. But you aren't wearing blinders my friend, and neither am I.

Emile

(22,857 posts)
35. I know 3 people who died after they thought they
Tue Apr 26, 2022, 09:25 AM
Apr 2022

had immunity after getting over covid and then catching it again.

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