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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsRussian Karen verbally assaults Ukrainian woman in Stockholm.
Watch with CC. Has to be seen to be believed.
Tanuki
(14,930 posts)dalton99a
(81,700 posts)If Russia is so great and Russians are superior to everyone else
mcar
(42,465 posts)Crunchy Frog
(26,709 posts)Maybe she should be deported too?
All pooptin supporters should be rounded up and dumped in their beloved country.
rockfordfile
(8,709 posts)Duppers
(28,132 posts)Biophilic
(3,728 posts)What an amazingly ugly, vile human being. I just can't imagine.
delisen
(6,046 posts)It is males who are trampling on our rights as human beings.
This so called Karen meme (focused on aging and aged women of the generation born when Karen was a popular name for girls) is bs.
Women are victims of violence; .they are far from the main perpetrators.
How many men-Ukraine, Russia, or US have been raped by middle-aged women this year?
A powerless, weak old woman tirades against another woman in the street and all of us old women are once again labeled Karers. This is the latest manifestation of the w word and the b word. Yes, the witch and the bitch.
But of course you have no generic term for males yelling in the streets they are exempt because in too many mind men expressing opinions, bad as those opinions might be,are exempt. It is women men seek to silence.
2naSalit
(86,920 posts)About eight or ten epithets for those kind of men. Just sayin'.
Crunchy Frog
(26,709 posts)Would you be okay if she was a Southern white woman saying those things to a young black woman? Is vile verbal harassment okay because at least it isn't rape? Really?
And I personally find the notion that women can't be considered responsible for their own bad behavior to be incredibly misogynistic in itself. That's just my opinion though. I'm sure you'll explain to me why I'm wrong.
delisen
(6,046 posts)There is no equivalent term to Karen for a man being verbally rude or abusive or overbearing or dismissive to another person in public.
In the 1950s and 60s unescorted women were not welcome in the finer restaurants in New York and other cities.. If a woman was a business person or a tourist she was expected to utilize room service in her hotel. If you wanted to dine in a upscale restaurant you were expected to have a male escort. Unescorted men were welcomed; unescorted women were discouraged.
If you reserved a table, when you showed up alone you might be told there was a mistake and be denied entry. If you were seated it was likely to be at an undesirable table and you could expect to be ignored. Often a woman without a male escort was regarded as a hooker and treated disrespectfully If you protested and demanded a better table or better service, you became labeled a bitch. It did not matter whether you were white, black, Asian, or from another country. You were female and powe and finer things were not for you.
By the late 60s and early 70s women started fighting back and demanded to be treated as equal to male patrons. Restaurants fought back with the label Karen. Karen was the woman who demanded to be treated as equal to male patrons. She demanded the same service and respect accorded the male. She felt entitled to equality.
I now see this term being resurrected just as the hard won victories of women on the path to equality are being attacked and rolled back. Once again we fight for the right to control our own bodies. I don.t think the resurrection of sexist terms is a coincidence.
I know nothing about the woman in the video. I dont understand the language. She appears to be acting badly, and appears to be verbally attacking someone else, a woman.. I have seen many men behave this way but there is no label for them. I suspect this woman is upholding a patriarchal system that is the real threat to equality to safety, and to life.
Women are not our main problem and I think the use of the label Karen works to misdirect our attention from solving the actual problem
Crunchy Frog
(26,709 posts)Jilly_in_VA
(10,045 posts)More likely Katya or Katyusha to her friends, if she has any with behavior like that.
WarGamer
(12,506 posts)Russians look down on them...
peggysue2
(10,849 posts)Took her 70 years to get that hateful. And this is what the Putin lovers want to emulate?
Guess so.
LuckyCharms
(17,472 posts)whistler162
(11,155 posts)just trying to one-up her?