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Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:20 PM

Very interesting post over at Newsworks by a man named Martin Jones about the black vote

# The Black Vote will exceed expectations Martin Jones 2012-10-29 15:38
As was the case with the abolition of slavery, the end of Jim Crow segregation, the Major League Baseball debut of Jackie Robinson and the establishment of the Martin Luther King,Jr. national holiday, the African-American community broadly regards the presidency of Barack Obama to be an historic benchmark of racial progress that must not ever be reversed. Only the re-election of Barack Obama would prevent that reversal, as a defeat for the president would amount to a national repudiation of his historic 2008 victory. Those who voted for him in 2008 thus know that a second victory in 2012 is still required in order to both validate and consummate his first White House victory. Black voter turnout can therefore be expected to reach as high as 90 percent with Obama receiving well over 95 percent of those voting (in particular due to Mitt Romney's controversial "47 percent" remarks at a private all-white fundraiser).

http://www.newsworks.org/index.php/blogs/centre-square/item/46227

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Reply Very interesting post over at Newsworks by a man named Martin Jones about the black vote (Original post)
Maraya1969 Oct 2012 OP
bluestate10 Oct 2012 #1
arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #3
Cha Oct 2012 #5
arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #8
Dan Oct 2012 #16
Cha Oct 2012 #20
Moonwalk Oct 2012 #19
sheshe2 Oct 2012 #26
RomneyLies Oct 2012 #2
arthritisR_US Oct 2012 #9
Skittles Oct 2012 #10
vilify Oct 2012 #4
madokie Oct 2012 #6
RomneyLies Oct 2012 #11
jeff47 Oct 2012 #15
Zalatix Oct 2012 #24
progree Oct 2012 #23
Cha Oct 2012 #7
demgrrrll Oct 2012 #14
Dan Oct 2012 #17
-LOKI -BAD FOR YA Oct 2012 #25
justiceischeap Oct 2012 #12
L0oniX Oct 2012 #13
Spitfire of ATJ Oct 2012 #18
progree Oct 2012 #21
cbrer Oct 2012 #22
WCGreen Oct 2012 #27
Renaissance Man Oct 2012 #28
Tikki Oct 2012 #29

Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:31 PM

1. Blacks have spent nearly four years watching the President be called names and get

viciously attacked. When combined with many people of European, Caribbean, Central and South American descent, Blacks know that now is payback time.

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:38 PM

3. Your President deserves a second term, irrespective

of his colour. He is a good man who has worked his ass off on the behalf of all Americans despite the forces against him.

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Response to arthritisR_US (Reply #3)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:43 PM

5. Totally Agree! Thanks!

Thank Goodness for the Black Folks..they are so Appreciated!

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:59 PM

8. More now then ever before, about time! :) n/t

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Response to Cha (Reply #5)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:51 PM

16. not just Blacks, but all good people...

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Response to Dan (Reply #16)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:13 AM

20. Yes Indeedy!

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Response to bluestate10 (Reply #1)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:42 PM

19. Um, actually, all of us who voted for Obama have watched OUR president called names...

...get viciously attacked, and treated in an manner that is frankly unconscionable by congressmen, the media and those who didn't vote for him. It is most certainly payback time and believe me, we all want payback for how OUR president has been treated. I regret that I have only one vote to express my outraged feelings on the matter.

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Response to Moonwalk (Reply #19)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:46 PM

26. You mean to tell me we CAN'T vote twice?

Dammit!
LOL

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:37 PM

2. African Americans can relate to Obama's experience in office.

 

Every black manager I ever worked with had to perform twice as well as her/his best performing peer to be considered in the same league as her/his worst performing peer.

To put this in context, for Obama to be considered in the same league as Bush II, he had to perform twice as well as FDR or Lincoln.

African Americans can relate to Obama's experience in office.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:02 PM

9. I agree with your assertion and believe he has

more than risen to the challenge as has his fine wife

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #2)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:09 PM

10. actually, us women can relate to that

"Women have to work twice as hard as men to be seen as half as good; luckily, that is not difficult"

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:38 PM

4. 90% ???

 

That would be great but I doubt its that high. I think 70% is realistic. Repubs will be steaming mad and race relations will be even worse.

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Response to vilify (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:43 PM

6. Just where do these blacks that aren't going to vote for Obama be?

Everyone is entitled to their own opinion and I agree with that, but I'd like to read what you've got to say to back up what you posted about the 70%.

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Response to madokie (Reply #6)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:11 PM

11. Disenfranchisement via the courts

 

A black man has a huge disadvantage in being able to vote as a black man has a high probability of felony conviction in his life, and we all know how Republicans never want a cnvicted felon to ever vote again.

The fact is, black men do not commit more felonies per capita than white men, it's just that black men are easier for DAs to convict.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #11)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:46 PM

15. "Turnout" is only measured against registered voters. Those that can't vote

due to felony conviction aren't counted in the turnout percentage.

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Response to RomneyLies (Reply #11)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:39 AM

24. I see what you're talking about. Not the percentage of registered black voters

 

but rather the ratio of black men who are eligible to vote to the number of black men in general, right?

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Response to madokie (Reply #6)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:34 AM

23. Some snips from Newsweek on black voting rates in 2008 (FWIW)

More than 55% of blacks under 25 voted in 2008, compared to 47% in 2004. Black voters in 2008 between ages 25 and 44 were, for the first time ever, more likely to turn out than their white counterparts. In Ohio, black turnout was 70%.

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Response to vilify (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 09:45 PM

7. Yeah, it's that HIGH..and Tough Shite bout the gopropaganda fucking teabaggers.

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Response to vilify (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:14 PM

14. Any stats to back that up?

I think it will be that high.

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Response to vilify (Reply #4)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:52 PM

17. You have no idea of the Black community's

committment...

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Response to vilify (Reply #4)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 03:33 AM

25. are you saying the repubs will be upset if aa ,latino,asian,women vote

i do not think the repubs could any worse,they are cheating,lying,and bullying now.so every one voting should make sure we do not get above 70 percent or their will be trouble.thanks for letting them know their place.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:13 PM

12. Another thing to consider is that the African-American community

fought too long and too hard to get the right to vote. You are not going to tell them they can't vote and not expect for them to come out swinging, and rightfully so. If only we mobilized as well as they do at the idea of our votes being disenfranchised.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 10:13 PM

13. If Obama looses ...the blame goes to the damned asshole racists!

 

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Mon Oct 29, 2012, 11:25 PM

18. The Right Wing wants the first black President to go down as a one term failure,...

 

....so they can claim black people just aren't good at being managers.

The future of blacks all over the nation is at stake in this election.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:22 AM

21. "If Romney wins, the GOP will spend the next few decades saying that they fixed Obama's mess"

that's a quote from Michael Tomasky in Newsweek. It's about the biggest motivator to vote that I can think of other than contemplating a 7-2 CONservative - liberal Supreme Court.

That there will be a continued economic recovery under Romney (shudder) that he and the RepubliCONS can brag about of course depends on a continued economic recovery, but one can expect that from past economic cycles (at least a few more years of recovery), and assuming that a Democratic Senate blocks his nuttier proposals...

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 12:25 AM

22. An historical moment

 

That we are witnessing.

Much as our parents did the prior events.

If we survive as America, someday historians and/or sociologists will look back and call these the crazy years.

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 06:54 PM

27. I'm not black and I feel the same way...

Although I just heard a black guy saying he is going to vote for Romney because blacks don't always have to vote for democrats...

Seriously, just saw this on the History Channel...

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:23 PM

28. A little insight ...

I'm a black male, and the amount of disrespect shown to President Obama, even in the face of the difficult scenario he faced in first being elected, is well-known by the black electorate.

We looked at the Tea Party emerge, and all of the racist, often misspelled signs carried by their astroturfers.

We looked at the outright lies that were told about the Affordable Care Act and the downright ugliness displayed to black members of Congress (being spat on).

We saw a Congressman yell, "You lie!" at the president during a State of the Union address.

We looked at the ugliness of the 2008 election and the downright filth of racism and bigotry that was released on the American electorate.

We looked at the signs depicting a watermelon patch on the front lawn, photos altered to make Michelle Obama look like a chimpanzee, and the attacks on the President's daughters.

We've observed every rightwing faux outrage at the First Family taking a vacation overseas and the fake pearl clutching that would never occur under a Republican President.

We've noticed the spike in hate groups emerging due to this President's first term as a result of this election.

We've seen a candidate in the Republican Primary (Newt Gingrich) call a sitting President the "Food Stamp" president.

We've seen another candidate in the Republican Primary (Rick Santorum) state that "blah" people only want money that is earned by other people.

We've seen people who are an absolute insult to the black political experience in this nation trotted out as "free thinkers," even though they are buffons (see Herman Cain and Allen West).

We've seen the President's citizenship questioned and his dead mother mocked and ridiculed as if though she was some harlot.

We've seen the Republican-held Congress obstruct any measure at an economic recovery that the President has attempted with the stalled Jobs Bill (even though the economy has improved, jobs have grown at over 5 million with 12 million slated for growth in the next few years and the unemployment rate down from its average high of 10.9% to 7.3%).

We've seen these rightwing asshole governors attempt to roll back public union rights, institute new voter ID measures and attempt to cut early voting, and institute these draconian measures on women's reproductive rights and health.

... but on the other hand ...

We've seen our nation bounce back from what likely would have been a second Great Depression had the president and Congress not intervened with spending.

We've seen the Affordable Care Act passed (and declared constitutional) and all of the humanity enshrined in the law (no denials for preexisting conditions, allowing young adults to stay on their parents' insurance plans until 26, the rebates, etc.).

We've seen the auto industry bounce back, as the Big 3 are now still the biggest auto manufacturers internationally (with their loan paid back with interest).

We've seen the weight of these United States placed on the shoulders of our current President, and him time and time again, hit the ball out of the park (see ordering Navy Seals to kill Somali Pirates, see the death of Osama bin Laden, etc.).

We've seen the President sign the Lilly Ledbetter Act (which of course affects African-American women just like any other).

We've seen the President show courage and take a Progressive stance on many issues (where many presidents, Democrats included, have failed).

We've seen the President bring a responsible end to the Iraq War and set a timetable for Afghanistan (in which many of our sons and daughters have fought and died).

We've seen the American financial sector bounce back, as well.

We see those beautiful daughters and that drop dead gorgeous wife handle all of the ugliness, vitriol, and hate that is thrown at them daily with only the grace that they would know how.

We've seen many more things, as well. I'm not sure if you'll se a 90% African-American voter turnout, but ...

You're damned right we're MAD.

You're damned right we're FIRED UP.

You're damned right we're READY TO GO (and VOTE).

FOUR MORE YEARS!

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Response to Maraya1969 (Original post)

Tue Oct 30, 2012, 07:26 PM

29. I believe the Hispanic vote will exceed expectations and that vote goes to our President Obama...






Tikki

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