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applegrove

(132,207 posts)
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:22 PM May 2022

DeSantis Aims to Turn Florida Into Solid Red State

DeSantis Aims to Turn Florida Into Solid Red State

May 2, 2022 at 4:45 pm EDT By Taegan Goddard 93 Comments

https://politicalwire.com/2022/05/02/desantis-aims-to-turn-florida-into-solid-red-state/

"SNIP......

Gov. Ron DeSantis (R) told Lisa Boothe he thinks Florida will turn solidly red if he’s reelected.

Said DeSantis: “My goal would be, if we win the election really big, people like you who analyze these things are going to say: ‘The days of Florida being a swing state are over. Florida is a red state.'”

......SNIP"

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DeSantis Aims to Turn Florida Into Solid Red State (Original Post) applegrove May 2022 OP
A question to ponder... brooklynite May 2022 #1
Tie his stupid stunts to tax increases. Baitball Blogger May 2022 #11
We don't know how bad it might get Mad_Machine76 May 2022 #16
Problem is even if this change at Disney happens, it's June 2023 jimfields33 May 2022 #27
So Mad_Machine76 May 2022 #37
Orange and Osceola counties, both strongly Democratic, would bear the brunt ... 11 Bravo May 2022 #32
Who is the republican party..... SergeStorms May 2022 #2
That's What I've Been Saying SoCalDavidS May 2022 #3
Both of them are facing changing demographics so don't give them up. applegrove May 2022 #9
The changing demographics don't mean the voting base will Jspur May 2022 #15
DeSantis won by less than 30,000 votes. Tommy Carcetti May 2022 #35
Because He's More Popular There Than Ever SoCalDavidS May 2022 #36
Talk about delusional kimbutgar May 2022 #4
AKA a one party dictatorship DBoon May 2022 #5
That's how I see it too. Baitball Blogger May 2022 #6
Terrible Democratic messaging like "democratic socialist" and "defund the police" YorkRd May 2022 #7
I recall Sen Sanders going to Florida and praising Castro comradebillyboy May 2022 #29
A red state with high taxes. tirebiter May 2022 #8
Then why does he keep killing his constituents with mask bans & hiding cases? SheltieLover May 2022 #10
Why do people seek out this guys thoughts on anything? pwb May 2022 #12
DeSatan is in a head to head contest with bullStitt in OK Runningdawg May 2022 #13
This from a guy who won by 0.4% budkin May 2022 #14
Ron rso May 2022 #18
And Disney has 77,000 pissed off employees. applegrove May 2022 #19
Yea, but they have fixed that problem with gerrymandering. Chainfire May 2022 #21
Can't gerrymander a statewide election. Wednesdays May 2022 #22
You need to explain your thought process Chainfire May 2022 #24
They split a district that started in Jacksonville and ended in Tallahassee jimfields33 May 2022 #28
So if he wins by 0.5% this time around gratuitous May 2022 #34
The Electorate always eventually self corrects Jspur May 2022 #17
Only in a fair system could you expect the self correction. Chainfire May 2022 #31
The system has always been unfair in this country. It's only by force Jspur May 2022 #33
Like Karl Rove's "permanent republican majority," I guess tishaLA May 2022 #20
Won't happen nt XanaDUer2 May 2022 #23
easy to win when you are the referee Takket May 2022 #25
We need to find out how to turn Trump against him. LOL nt Quixote1818 May 2022 #26
Shhhhhhhhhhhh!!! Nobody tell him how political districts work! Initech May 2022 #30
 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
1. A question to ponder...
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:23 PM
May 2022

What has DeSantis done that turns off a majority of Florida voters?

Baitball Blogger

(52,341 posts)
11. Tie his stupid stunts to tax increases.
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:33 PM
May 2022

Frankly, The other side of the Republican party has a better chance of knocking him out of contention, than the Florida Democrats. Sorry, but that's true. Our Democrats are still using abacus style thinking. I don't think there is any Democrat that bridges the trust of all Democrats, and it comes down to what locals want. Quick rich schemes, and people who will look the other way. Makes for a shitty community environment, which means nothing to people who rely on closed social networks.

Mad_Machine76

(24,957 posts)
16. We don't know how bad it might get
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:57 PM
May 2022

but his attacks on Disney and leaving the surrounding area with a huge tax increase probably isn't going to sit well with a lot of people. Also, depending on how it functions, I doubt he'll make many friends with his new "Election Police".

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
27. Problem is even if this change at Disney happens, it's June 2023
Mon May 2, 2022, 06:45 PM
May 2022

I predict a quiet resolution after midterms.

11 Bravo

(24,310 posts)
32. Orange and Osceola counties, both strongly Democratic, would bear the brunt ...
Mon May 2, 2022, 07:02 PM
May 2022

of the DeSantis tax hikes.
And don't think the slimy pig-fucker didn't factor that into the equation.

SergeStorms

(20,584 posts)
2. Who is the republican party.....
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:25 PM
May 2022

going to rob then? Each other? That'll lead to bloodshed in a nanosecond.

Florida will be the Old West in no time flat.

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
3. That's What I've Been Saying
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:26 PM
May 2022

FL & TX are Red States. The Democratic Party is better off spending their campaign money elsewhere. In states that are still viable.

applegrove

(132,207 posts)
9. Both of them are facing changing demographics so don't give them up.
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:31 PM
May 2022

We don't need to hand anything over to the GOP - they take so much.

Jspur

(798 posts)
15. The changing demographics don't mean the voting base will
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:54 PM
May 2022

change. I'm an Indian American that was born and raised in the US while my parents are from India. You will see what I'm getting at. Anyways my best friend is also an Indian American whose story is the same as mine. Went to highschool together and he now lives in Dallas, Texas. He's lived there for 11 years. He's told me straight up these Hispanics the democrats want to convert to their base are not reachable.

He made an interesting point when he told me in his words "Jspur these Hispanics they have brown skin just like you and me but a lot of them think differently than us. They actually believe they are white or want to desperately be white and that voting republican will get them there. They are also religious nutcases which is another reason why they identify with the republican party."

We need to stop thinking Hispanics are a monolithic base like African Americans where they are going to vote 80-90 percent democratic. Hispanics are more like the white voting base in America where you have majority whites in the Northeast and the West Coast voting for democrats and then the rest of the country's white base voting Republican.

Tommy Carcetti

(44,497 posts)
35. DeSantis won by less than 30,000 votes.
Mon May 2, 2022, 07:27 PM
May 2022

Trump only won by 3%.

Exactly why are you writing us off?

 

SoCalDavidS

(10,599 posts)
36. Because He's More Popular There Than Ever
Mon May 2, 2022, 07:52 PM
May 2022

One would think that after his handling of the Covid crisis, his #'s would be in the toilet. But just like in TX, they're not.

He expects to run as the favorite in '24, assuming TFG isn't in the race. He would have a hard time doing that, if he loses the race for Governor this November.

He will do ANYTHING to ensure that he wins handily in November. I don't think it will even be close, and if it is, you can be assured he's going to be the one coming out on top.

I HATE him so much, I'd LOVE to see him go down to defeat. I just don't see that happening. I wish I didn't agree with him, but he's right, and FL is a Red State. I truly believe that any funds the party puts towards the Governor or Senate races in FL, would be better spent in legitimate battleground states, like GA, AZ, PA, WI, etc.

DeSatan already knows he has it won. To him, now it's simply a matter of how much he'll win by. My guess is by a 5-10% margin when all is said and done.

kimbutgar

(27,248 posts)
4. Talk about delusional
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:26 PM
May 2022

I hope he gets voted out in a landslide. Bring back the sane Charlie Crist.

Baitball Blogger

(52,341 posts)
6. That's how I see it too.
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:28 PM
May 2022

We need Democrats who can break the spell that Republicans have over South Florida. Just might involve education. They fear a South American style socialism. Democrats have to explain to them why that can't happen here.

YorkRd

(436 posts)
7. Terrible Democratic messaging like "democratic socialist" and "defund the police"
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:29 PM
May 2022

It’s hard to overcome these blunders in English but in Spanish it makes it even harder. Anytime South Florid hears socialist they think Maduro, Ortega and even Castro.

comradebillyboy

(10,955 posts)
29. I recall Sen Sanders going to Florida and praising Castro
Mon May 2, 2022, 06:51 PM
May 2022

during the 2020 primaries. One of his most brilliant political moves.

pwb

(12,660 posts)
12. Why do people seek out this guys thoughts on anything?
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:33 PM
May 2022

Hey Ron your state is burning up and sinking and you Yawn. He is probably robbing Florida blind keeping the attention on his look at stupid me routine ? Just like Make-up man.

Runningdawg

(4,664 posts)
13. DeSatan is in a head to head contest with bullStitt in OK
Mon May 2, 2022, 05:34 PM
May 2022

to make his state the capitol of the New (White Christian ONLY) America.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
21. Yea, but they have fixed that problem with gerrymandering.
Mon May 2, 2022, 06:09 PM
May 2022

I am in one of the blue voting areas that is being split up and diluted down. I just submitted all of the extra information that I needed to remain on the voter roles. I haven't missed a vote in 50 years, but suddenly they did not have enough information on me... A lot of people won't do it and will be surprised on voting day.

The dirty bastards in the Republican Party will find any way, legal or not, to cheat on the elections.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
24. You need to explain your thought process
Mon May 2, 2022, 06:26 PM
May 2022

By gerrymandering the local districts you determine who you send to state government to make the state laws. including election laws. That is the point. My district is being split up because we have been sending a damn good Democrat to Tallahassee to represent us. The Republicans hate him so they are splitting his district with neighboring red districts. That is part of the process DeSantis speaks of when talks about making Florida solid red. The future of our National elections is going to depend strongly on how much mischief the states call pull.

 

jimfields33

(19,382 posts)
28. They split a district that started in Jacksonville and ended in Tallahassee
Mon May 2, 2022, 06:50 PM
May 2022

That is a huge district. Why they did that in the first place is a mystery. They broke that up this time.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
34. So if he wins by 0.5% this time around
Mon May 2, 2022, 07:11 PM
May 2022

That will qualify as "winning big." Or if he wins by three suspicious votes, that will qualify as "winning big." No matter what the margin of victory is, a Republican is always "winning big," and has a mandate to do whatever the hell he wants, because it was the will of the people. Oh, during the campaign he never mentioned some odious policy he wants to enact now? Well, he won, so it's the will of the people and he has carte blanche for anything his wealthy backers want.

Jspur

(798 posts)
17. The Electorate always eventually self corrects
Mon May 2, 2022, 06:00 PM
May 2022

itself. Even if Florida became a red state there would be some other state that would eventually flip permanently blue. This stuff historically always happens.

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
31. Only in a fair system could you expect the self correction.
Mon May 2, 2022, 07:00 PM
May 2022

Fair has left the Republican Party process.

Jspur

(798 posts)
33. The system has always been unfair in this country. It's only by force
Mon May 2, 2022, 07:10 PM
May 2022

the system changes. Right now, it is rigged for Republicans but over time forces will come to get it changed. For example, I bet before the 60's it didn't seem like it was believable for many blacks that they would ever get civil rights. A lot of bad things are happening right now, but history has also taught me that eventually these things get corrected. I just hope I'm alive when they do get corrected.

Takket

(23,714 posts)
25. easy to win when you are the referee
Mon May 2, 2022, 06:28 PM
May 2022

if anyone thinks there is a chance in hell Desantis is going to let black votes count in this election, you haven't been watching thier voter suppression efforts.

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