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What happens to Griswold v. Connecticut? (Original Post) Frasier Balzov May 2022 OP
Nothing happens to Griswold, Loving, Lawrence, or Obergefell. elleng May 2022 #1
Yet. Salviati May 2022 #4
Not automatically, of course. Frasier Balzov May 2022 #5
I believe two were specifically cited in the opinion MoonlitKnight May 2022 #7
You believe this, on what basis? elleng May 2022 #8
An excerpt I read MoonlitKnight May 2022 #9
All of those decisions are specifically cited on Page 32 of the draft opinion. Frasier Balzov May 2022 #10
Link to draft opinion available? elleng May 2022 #11
By all means! Frasier Balzov May 2022 #14
thanks elleng May 2022 #16
Here Arazi May 2022 #15
Pages 31 and 32 MoonlitKnight May 2022 #17
I wouldn't be too sure. TwilightZone May 2022 #12
This absolutely opens the door for challenges on all of those. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #13
Life in the 1950's was NOT hunky dory. ProudMNDemocrat May 2022 #2
Yes. Soon it will be 1825 except for all the surveillance technology bucolic_frolic May 2022 #3
That's next. Scrivener7 May 2022 #6
Yes iemanja May 2022 #18

Frasier Balzov

(2,639 posts)
5. Not automatically, of course.
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:23 PM
May 2022

Only incrementally.

To the best of my recollection, those were not unanimous opinions.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
7. I believe two were specifically cited in the opinion
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:27 PM
May 2022

Pretty much an open door to states to assume they won’t be upheld.

Frasier Balzov

(2,639 posts)
10. All of those decisions are specifically cited on Page 32 of the draft opinion.
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:41 PM
May 2022

Alito's rhetoric in doing so is to give cold comfort as to why those decisions are "safe" from being thrown out accordingly.

MoonlitKnight

(1,584 posts)
17. Pages 31 and 32
Mon May 2, 2022, 10:07 PM
May 2022

Part of it:

“ is in precedent. Casey relied on cases involving the right to marry a person ofa different race, Loving v. Virginia, 388 U.S. 1(1967); the right to marry while in prison, Turnerv. Saftey, 482 U. S. 78 (1987); the right to obtain contracep- tives, Griswold v. Connecticut, 381 U.S. 479 (1965), Eisen- stadt v. Baird, 405 U. S. 438 (1972), Carey v. Population Services International, 431 U. S. 678 (1977); the righttore- side with relatives, Moore v. Fast Cleveland, 431 U. S. 494 1977); the right to make decisions about the education of one's children, Pierce v. Society of Sisters, 268 U. S. 510 (1925), Meyerv. Nebraska, 262 U. S. 390 (1925); the right not to be sterilized without consent, Skinner v. Oklahoma ex rel. Williamson, 316 U. S. 535 (1942); and the right in certain circumstances not to undergo involuntary surgery, forced administration of drugs, or other substantially simi. lar procedures, Winston v. Lee, 470 U. S. 753 (1985), Wash- ington. Harper, 494 U. S. 210 (1990), Rochin.v. California, 342 U. S. 165 (1952). Respondents and the Solicitor Gen eral also rely on post-Casey decisions like Lawrence v.

Texas, 539 U. S. 558 (2008) (right to engage in private, con- sensual sexual acts), and Obergefell v. Hodges, 576 U. S. 644 (2015) (right to marry a person of the same sex). See Brieffor Respondents 18; Brieffor United Statesas Amicus Curiae 23-24. “

“ These attempts tojustify abortion through appeals to a broader right to autonomy and to define one's “concept of existence” prove too much. Casey, 505 U. S., at 851. Those criteria, at a high level of generality, could license funda. ‘mental rights to illicit drug use, prostitution, and the like. See Compassion in Dying v. Washington, 85 F.3d 1140, 1444 (CA9 1996) (O'Scannlain, J., dissenting from denial of rehearing en banc). None ofthese rights has any claim to being deeply rooted in history. Id., at 1440, 1445. ”

Cuthbert Allgood

(4,907 posts)
13. This absolutely opens the door for challenges on all of those.
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:52 PM
May 2022

They make that clear in this leaked decision.

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,730 posts)
2. Life in the 1950's was NOT hunky dory.
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:22 PM
May 2022

This is where the US Supreme Court wants to take us post Roe.

We will NOT go back without a fight.

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