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Please people, let's keep blame where it belongs (Original Post) Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 OP
And Democrats who didn't support Hillary. That's the truth. Scrivener7 May 2022 #1
Thank you Eliot Rosewater May 2022 #2
Now is not the time to divide us n/t Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #3
The truth hurts? nycbos May 2022 #6
Wrong. 2016 was not the time to divide us. Now is when those Scrivener7 May 2022 #7
This. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #15
As if Nader torpedoing Gore wasn't enough Zambero May 2022 #31
And That electric_blue68 May 2022 #56
Yep. sheshe2 May 2022 #54
They divided us in 2016. sheshe2 May 2022 #26
Bingo. nt SunSeeker May 2022 #47
XO sheshe2 May 2022 #53
Who is "us?" Starry Messenger May 2022 #60
+1 dalton99a May 2022 #10
THIS!!! It didn't take much either. In those critical swing states Hillary lost by less than 1%, JohnSJ May 2022 #13
Post removed Post removed May 2022 #17
Correct. sheshe2 May 2022 #21
Yup. GoCubsGo May 2022 #23
Yep mcar May 2022 #25
This electric_blue68 May 2022 #55
Yep. Patton French May 2022 #61
Susan Collins Me. May 2022 #4
THANK YOU n/t Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #9
Susan "Settled" Collins! Zambero May 2022 #24
OH HELL NO WE AREN'T PLAYING THAT GAME! CrackityJones75 May 2022 #5
But hey, it's gonna bring the Revolution! AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #11
Keep dividing us. Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #12
Oh yeah it was me that said "I just can't vote for her" CrackityJones75 May 2022 #16
I'm not playing any goddamned game pal n/t Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #14
Uh huh. CrackityJones75 May 2022 #19
Yep. nt BlackSkimmer May 2022 #63
Fox News Initech May 2022 #8
Thank you. Cuthbert Allgood May 2022 #18
Correct, thank you Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #20
Absolutely luv2fly May 2022 #35
The Southern Strategy was the single biggest mistake we made as a country. Initech May 2022 #45
but not enough! Republicans take the major share of blame since they started rebuilding post Barry.. electric_blue68 May 2022 #57
There is a lot to go around and we must not ignore one facet of it. boston bean May 2022 #22
Party Unity My Ass. Remember? dchill May 2022 #27
To all those looking backward. Big Blue Marble May 2022 #28
Thanks. If we keep blaming each other, THEY WIN n/t Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #29
Some workers would rather kick the dog.... TheRealNorth May 2022 #33
True. Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #34
This is a sorely needed comment in many threads here tonight. JudyM May 2022 #49
. Scrivener7 May 2022 #30
I would agree with you except I see the same sort of thing now...the idea that in order to Demsrule86 May 2022 #37
I could not agree with you more. Big Blue Marble May 2022 #40
+1 betsuni May 2022 #58
yes G_j May 2022 #39
The real blame lies with the Murdochs. The Bushes. The Reagans. Initech May 2022 #46
Yes and all the political opportunists Big Blue Marble May 2022 #52
Mitch McConnell drmeow May 2022 #32
Congress can just codify Roe v Wade into law leftstreet May 2022 #36
Sadly, a future GOP-dominted congress can then... Mister Ed May 2022 #38
There wont be a future GOP if they have this on the ballot, period. uponit7771 May 2022 #43
Even if they did, the SC would just overturn the law as unconstitutional. Big Blue Marble May 2022 #41
Yes, court expansion will be the topic again leftstreet May 2022 #42
Everyone who didn't vote for Hillary Clinton is to blame. BlueCheeseAgain May 2022 #44
Those who leaned a certain way in the 2016... Tarc May 2022 #48
All sleeping peacefully. Everything's the Democratic Establishment's fault, don't you know. betsuni May 2022 #59
Fascists Fascists Fascists nt yaesu May 2022 #50
I agree rockfordfile May 2022 #51
Lol do you know this place? aocommunalpunch May 2022 #62

Zambero

(9,979 posts)
31. As if Nader torpedoing Gore wasn't enough
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:50 PM
May 2022

Republicans could never enact their EVIL agenda or steal national elections without certain "progressives" providing them with the means to do so.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
13. THIS!!! It didn't take much either. In those critical swing states Hillary lost by less than 1%,
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:37 PM
May 2022

while Jill Stein received 1% of the vote in those critical swing states

Response to JohnSJ (Reply #13)

GoCubsGo

(34,890 posts)
23. Yup.
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:44 PM
May 2022

And, those who don't vote down ticket for Democrats in state and local races And, those who stay home during the midterms...

Patton French

(1,824 posts)
61. Yep.
Tue May 3, 2022, 06:26 AM
May 2022

But they clearly don’t like to be reminded. Lessons not learned can lead to mistakes repeated.

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
5. OH HELL NO WE AREN'T PLAYING THAT GAME!
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:35 PM
May 2022

Absolutely blame the republicans but we ALL knew what they would do. But it was certain “progressives” that really screwed us.

AZSkiffyGeek

(12,744 posts)
11. But hey, it's gonna bring the Revolution!
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:36 PM
May 2022

And Susan Sarandon will be laughing it up in her French estate…

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
16. Oh yeah it was me that said "I just can't vote for her"
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:38 PM
May 2022

if you don’t learn from history you are doomed to repeat it.

EVERY DAMNED ELECTION it should be mandatory reading material before a non republican votes just what the fuck went down in 2016. Precisely so that we are NOT DIVIDED AGAIN!

 

CrackityJones75

(2,403 posts)
19. Uh huh.
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:41 PM
May 2022

The republicans most certainly are NOT the only ones to blame as until we drill that into head of people that listen to the likes of a sarandon, cenk, turner, and well you know. Then we will continue fighting against ourselves.

Cuthbert Allgood

(5,339 posts)
18. Thank you.
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:40 PM
May 2022

I am a hard-core progressive. I voted for Clinton. I personally know hundreds of others that did, too.

This is the result of a decades long plan by the Republicans.

luv2fly

(2,661 posts)
35. Absolutely
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:10 PM
May 2022

Today or ten years from now, this has been their plan for decades. Blaming either side of the Democratic party just continues to piss off and alienate some of our own.

Initech

(108,700 posts)
45. The Southern Strategy was the single biggest mistake we made as a country.
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:21 AM
May 2022

Giving a rise to these dipshits over 5 decades is what got us here. Now how to undo it?

electric_blue68

(26,835 posts)
57. but not enough! Republicans take the major share of blame since they started rebuilding post Barry..
Tue May 3, 2022, 01:20 AM
May 2022

Goldwater

Big Blue Marble

(5,690 posts)
28. To all those looking backward.
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:46 PM
May 2022

Stop! Start looking forward and strategizing what we are going to do. Just today there was a thread
with progressives throwing moderates under the bus. Let's come together.

It is time to know where the real threat is. Republicans spent over 40 years to "achieve". to this result.
This is not a surprise. What exactly are we going to do now? Nothing from the past matters.
Just get moving.

Demsrule86

(71,542 posts)
37. I would agree with you except I see the same sort of thing now...the idea that in order to
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:21 PM
May 2022

get the 'progressive wing of the party to vote in a midterm...they must get this or that. Same old, Same old. So it is not unreasonable to point out that they need to STOP. I am a progressive and yet I would vote for any Democrat in a general, I don't have to be excited or have some particular thing done for me. I am not nor ever was a one-issue voter. I realize that what went on starting with Gore's loss and ending with Hillary's loss in 16 had all but destroyed this country and student loans, BBB, family leave ETC will not matter in a country that overturns elections and denies women the right to choose...priorities folks.

Big Blue Marble

(5,690 posts)
40. I could not agree with you more.
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:36 PM
May 2022

I, too, am a progressive. Just today I was arguing with progressives whose sense of entitlement
showed a lock of understanding of what is at risk, our self-determination, as well as our very democracy.
They had better wake up fast!

Initech

(108,700 posts)
46. The real blame lies with the Murdochs. The Bushes. The Reagans.
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:24 AM
May 2022

The Christian right. Rush Limbaugh. Alex Jones. Billy Graham. All this bullshit.

Big Blue Marble

(5,690 posts)
52. Yes and all the political opportunists
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:42 AM
May 2022

who rode to power on this single voter issue. Political operatives demagogued the issue
to the Evangelical Right who fell for the rights of fetuses and embryos or the rights of women.
And tragically it worked. It, guns, and racism have given the Right the SC and much of the power
to destroy our democracy. It is time to wake up and take our country back.

drmeow

(5,989 posts)
32. Mitch McConnell
Mon May 2, 2022, 09:57 PM
May 2022

f**king treasonous fascist that he is - I hope he dies alone and in agonizing, unrelenting pain.

Big Blue Marble

(5,690 posts)
41. Even if they did, the SC would just overturn the law as unconstitutional.
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:39 PM
May 2022

We need a constitutional amendment, not likely in the current political environment.
All that is left is toexpand the court soon.

Tarc

(10,601 posts)
48. Those who leaned a certain way in the 2016...
Tue May 3, 2022, 12:30 AM
May 2022

...are also culpable.

Wonder how well Susan Sarandon is sleeping tonight....

betsuni

(29,054 posts)
59. All sleeping peacefully. Everything's the Democratic Establishment's fault, don't you know.
Tue May 3, 2022, 01:43 AM
May 2022

They didn't stop Republicans because they didn't want to! Same sides! See, sleeping peacefully, dreaming of that ridiculous fantasy populist revolution they thought would happen because they don't understand the U.S. at all.

aocommunalpunch

(4,580 posts)
62. Lol do you know this place?
Tue May 3, 2022, 06:37 AM
May 2022

That dead horse ain’t gonna flog itself. When there aren’t actual conservatives to go after, many turn to whoever they can vent at. It happens again and again and again. So many beatings. So much morale.

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