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So...is stare decsis as a general legal principle dead? (Original Post) AngryOldDem May 2022 OP
Absolutely. Until THEY need it. The Unmitigated Gall May 2022 #1
Conservative activist judges 100% DGAF about precedents of any kind if it gets in the way of RockRaven May 2022 #2
It will depend on what the final ruling is... regnaD kciN May 2022 #3
I have always held the opinion... orwell May 2022 #4
Expand the Court now !! Dave says May 2022 #5
Pretty much for all Warren Court decisions. rsdsharp May 2022 #6
K&R UTUSN May 2022 #7
They can always make up shit to justify a predetermined outcome dalton99a May 2022 #8

RockRaven

(19,306 posts)
2. Conservative activist judges 100% DGAF about precedents of any kind if it gets in the way of
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:05 PM
May 2022

their ideologically/politically motivated outcome. This has been the case for quite some time now, and is not a novel occurrence in this abortion decision.

If you want to know what this means for the future of American jurisprudence, look to the recent past -- for example the mask mandate ruling a couple of weeks ago.

regnaD kciN

(27,631 posts)
3. It will depend on what the final ruling is...
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:06 PM
May 2022

They may try to finesse it, just as they did in Bush v. Gore, by stating that certain very specific issues meant that it could be rejected in this case, but not as a general principle. Or they could just throw it out altogether.

If the former, count on similar "very specific issues" coming up whenever it suits them, with LGBTQ+ laws being an obvious first target.

orwell

(8,003 posts)
4. I have always held the opinion...
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:08 PM
May 2022

...that so called "blind justice" is a myth.

A judge and jury can rationalize anything they want, and often do.

Why else would there even be terms like "stacking the court" or "judge shopping."

When the current court was "constructed" by the right wing they knew how they would decide cases. How is that possible if "stare decisis" was actually followed.

It is more lip service paid to an idea that makes people feel good about institutions such as "the courts" or "the senate" or "the chief executive", without facing the reality that humans are human. The can be prejudiced, fearful, vindictive, and intolerant.

If there were "justice", Drumpf would not only have been convicted in his second impeachment he and his ilk would be facing sedition charges...

Dave says

(5,417 posts)
5. Expand the Court now !!
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:10 PM
May 2022

How? I have no idea (given Manchin/Syn).

But it must be done!! We cannot be ruled by Alito/Kavanaugh/Gorsuch/Barrett. This is NOT what we as a nation want for our children!!

rsdsharp

(11,992 posts)
6. Pretty much for all Warren Court decisions.
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:42 PM
May 2022

Although Roe was a Burger Court decision, and Casey the Rehnquist Court.

dalton99a

(94,093 posts)
8. They can always make up shit to justify a predetermined outcome
Mon May 2, 2022, 11:49 PM
May 2022

They have been doing that since 2000



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