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babylonsister

(172,804 posts)
Tue May 3, 2022, 07:49 AM May 2022

Welcome To Gilead. Roe Is Gone, What Now?



Welcome To Gilead. Roe Is Gone, What Now?
Monday's news about the leaked draft from SCOTUS tells a story: They're not going to stop with letting states ban abortion. They're coming for gay marriage, interracial marriage and birth control.
By Karoli Kuns — May 2, 2022


Welcome to Gilead, where women are forced to give birth to their rapists' children with the government's blessing.

This is the world we are about to live in, if the draft SCOTUS opinion leaked to Politico overturning Roe tonight is real, and all indications are that it is. Rape, forced birth, poverty, banned interracial marriage, banned gay marriage, more poverty, and Big Brother crawling up women's uteruses to make sure they're obeying The Man. For that matter, they'll just live in all of our bedrooms to make sure we're submitting and not committing perversions like loving someone they deem unfit.

Here is Alito's logic: Because the word "abortion" is not a word in the U.S. Constitution, and because the right to privacy is also not explicitly laid out in the Constitution, Roe is predicated on a false premise and should therefore be overturned. And if that logic stands, the Obergefell, Griswold and Loving decisions will fall too. As he sees it, women do not have the right to self-determination or any agency whatsoever. They are, much like the fictional Gilead of Margaret Atwood's imagination, mere chattel to be dealt with as men please.

This is the world Republicans have dreamed of. It's what evangelicals have hoped would happen for decades.

In Alito's world, men have every right to rape women and then demand visitation to their rape-spawn.

In Alito's world, women have nothing to offer society beyond the confines of their uterus.

You think Gilead was the product of Margaret Atwood's imagination with no basis in reality? Well here we are, and as she wrote in the chapter at the end about "historical notes": "Men highly placed in the regime were thus able to pick and choose among women who had demonstrated their reproductive fitness by having produced one or more healthy children, a desirable characteristic in an age of plummeting Caucasian birthrates, a phenomenon observable not only in Gilead but in most northern Caucasian societies of the time."

Alito may have couched his screed condemning women to second class status in terms of legalistic constitutional argle-bargle, but that is the message.
White birthrates are dropping, and it's time to force them back up, by rape or by forced birth, or by both. It's racist, sexist, authoritarian bullshit and it is long past time to get in the streets.

WE TOLD YOU THIS WOULD HAPPEN AND IT DID BECAUSE NOT ENOUGH WHITE WOMEN COULD VOTE FOR A QUALIFIED WOMAN IN 2016. This is the fruit -- the poisoned, ugly, disfigured fruit -- of that decision.

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bucolic_frolic

(55,819 posts)
1. Puritanical
Tue May 3, 2022, 07:53 AM
May 2022

Puritan New England is where women produced. Eight, ten, 12, 14, 17, 19 children. Popped them out year after year. When wife #1 wore out, you started on wife #2. Didn't even have to marry her in some cases. It was survival to them - many children meant labor and in a a world of disease and primitive medicine, survival into adulthood.

gab13by13

(32,769 posts)
2. What now isn't about what already happened in the past.
Tue May 3, 2022, 07:54 AM
May 2022

Get behind pushing Chuck Schumer to vote on codifying Roe. The House already passed the bill.

When Schumer can't get 60 votes then vote on a filibuster carve out for codifying Roe. There will be a lot of pressure on Manchin as he will be seen as the reason Roe was abolished.

What now? Unite behind pushing the Senate to codify Roe before the SC makes its decision, doing nothing is conceding defeat.

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
3. It is a discriminatory ruling. It makes no sense for one state to treat the rights of a woman in
Tue May 3, 2022, 07:55 AM
May 2022

a discriminatory fashion, and another state not to discriminate.

It will come down to those with means will have the freedom to travel to states that allow a woman to choose, while those without means will not have that ability.

It is almost a certainty that there will be states that will have no exceptions for abortion, including rape, incest, or the life of the mother, and women in those states who lack the means will be forced to carry to term, or risk their lives seeking a risky procedure in that state.

This will also extend too more than just that. It likely will force the woman to carry to term a fetus which has a severe birth defect.

It is so obvious how wrong and blatantly discriminatory this ruling is

Ray Bruns

(6,737 posts)
5. I have always said that overturning Roe v Wade only makes abortion illegal
Tue May 3, 2022, 08:18 AM
May 2022

for poor women because rich women and women of means will always be able to travel to a state where it is legal.

LonePirate

(14,379 posts)
4. Everything passed or decided since the Civil War is on the table, even items in the Constitution.
Tue May 3, 2022, 07:57 AM
May 2022

This court and Republicans will even ignore elements of the Constitution if given the chance. All they need is a willing Congress and President to look the other way and that could happen as early as 2025.

Magoo48

(6,739 posts)
6. If women rise up, I will be on the street with them. If not women on this one, then who will lead?
Tue May 3, 2022, 08:19 AM
May 2022

keithbvadu2

(40,915 posts)
8. Some women would give up the right to vote in order to elect Trump
Tue May 3, 2022, 09:34 AM
May 2022

Some women would give up the right to vote in order to elect Trump

http://www.latimes.com/nation/politics/trailguide/la-na-trailguide-updates-trump-backers-tweet-repealthe19th-1476299001-htmlstory.html

Oct. 12, 2016, 12:15 p.m.

Trump backers tweet #repealthe19th after polls show he'd win if only men voted

As polls show that Donald Trump would overwhelmingly win if only men were allowed to vote, the GOP nominee's supporters have spawned a new Twitter hashtag: #repealthe19th.

That’s a reference to the 19th Amendment, which gave women the right to vote.

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