Due to sheer intuition only, I feel that the impending abortion ruling will not stand.
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I'm not well versed enough concerning the abortion issue to say why I feel this way, but I do have some general thoughts.
1) Outrage will continue to build until the decision becomes official (I believe in June?).
2) I'm old enough to remember Roe v Wade.
A panel of people...and when thinking about it, all the Supreme Court is...is a simple panel of people...is going to make an attempt to take away a basic right that has been "allowed" or "given" by a similar similar group of people in 1973. It seems (I don't know exactly how to describe this thought), it seems inherently wrong that any human right is something that is to be "granted" to someone else. It is just something that should "be", instead of "decided" by some people who make up a distinct branch of government. This branch is said to be separate from, and free from the influence of, the other branches of government, but it's no big secret that this is bullshit.
3) The rage and fury generated by this decision is not going to be anything like the protests before Roe v Wade. It's going to be much more furious. Can you recall any men freely referring to themselves as "feminists" in 1973? I can't. I'm not saying that men who were feminists did not exist in 1973, but it was not as openly discussed as it is today.
I consider myself to be a feminist, and I'm saying that without knowing the actual correct definition of feminism. But speaking from my heart, what feminism means to me is as follows: Women are people, men are people. Every human being is a person, regardless of gender, age. color, or any other variable. As such, I think women's rights, and men's rights, and black rights, or LGBTQ rights...are really just different flavors of human rights. "Rights" all fall under the same umbrella. Therefore, women's rights are human rights, and humans are not "baby vessels", unless they freely decide that they wish to carry a baby. Being forced to carry an unwanted pregnancy is a physical assault on a woman's body. A woman is the only one who owns her body, just as I am the only one who owns my body.
So, I'm not saying that a group of people deciding laws is not needed, of course it is needed. However, I think most normal people also realize that when it comes to the issue of human rights, there is something not exactly copacetic about what boils down to be at least a partially politically motivated body of individuals deciding that human rights should be taken away, should be removed, as if they don't exist. There is something not exactly right about a group of people telling a woman, or anyone one else, what to do with an unwanted group of cells within their own body.
4) To conclude: The outrage against this ruling isn't going to be anything like the outrage that led up to the Roe v Wade decision. It's more than predominantly women who are seething with intense rage now. Plenty of men are having the same feelings. You assault my sister, then you assault me. You assault my fellow human? Better tuck your chins in and put your hands up to protect yourself fuckers, because you're assaulting me too.
5) I'm not proud of the following: I had a long dead relative (not an immediate relative) who was an abortionist. I've heard the stories. He had zero medical training, but he performed abortions. In hotel rooms. With non-sterile "equipment". He butchered high school girls. For money. He went to prison for it.
We will not go back to those days. Fury and sheer force is going to somehow kill this ruling. I'm just not sure of the mechanism that will stop it, but it will be stopped.
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They enshrine and codify rights. Rights are always there.
They said on "Morning Joe" that a conservative may have done it to "lock in" the Judges decisions. That way the Holy Rollers would know who attack if they dared change their minds later. 
If you are implying that people on DU didn't know, I think you are wrong.
So now the country at large will know. And it will hit them like a ton of bricks after it takes about a week to set in.
One more thing. You can be both a cynic, and polite at the same time. I'm stunned more people don't know that.
And yet another LOL in the body of your post!
You're a PEACH, Brad! A master of subtlety and understatement. Good job! 
By having this bombshell drop now, the GOP are hoping that people will pay attention to this instead of the hearings which focus on GOP criminal activity.
Just a guess.
I believe that MOST of the Repukes are Pro-Choice, most want to see the Roe v. Wade ruling stand. However they realize that they made a deal with the devil - so to speak - when they teamed up with the ultra-religious RWNJs because they needed the votes. The deal they made was, they would see that Roe is overturned. Well they have to go through with that because that was the deal. BUT once it's done they are through with the crazy ultra-religion anti-abortionists for good.
Most sensible Repukes are Pro-Choice and if they don't realize it now, they will very soon when they see how it affects their own children and families. They'll understand that there was a reason for that ruling and it had nothing to do with "religion." It had everything to do with women's rights over their own bodies and their own health.
If Roe gets overturned by the Supreme Court, we can be sure the public outcry will be amazing and terrible. Pro-Choice laws will be passed in every state, or ultimately there will be a federal law passed that undercuts the individual states. It will no longer be left up to the Supreme Court to "rule" anything because legal framework will finally be setup that will remove their discretion.
