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Budi

(15,325 posts)
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:11 PM May 2022

Remember this? No? Why not?

Last edited Wed May 11, 2022, 06:17 PM - Edit history (1)

“In a single term, the Supreme Court could demolish pillars of the progressive movement. And as someone who has worked on every single one of these issues for decades, I see this as a make-or-break moment.” - @HillaryClinton in March 2016.



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Remember this? No? Why not? (Original Post) Budi May 2022 OP
Since it is nearly impossible for SCOTUS to directly feel any heat rurallib May 2022 #1
I'm afraid you're right. StarryNite May 2022 #3
yeah, no way this shit stops here. mopinko May 2022 #4
Don't forget Obergefell soldierant May 2022 #12
Obergefell for sure rurallib May 2022 #16
+1 herding cats May 2022 #19
My Democratic Governor soldierant May 2022 #27
K&R StarryNite May 2022 #2
Remember this? Sen. Joe Manchin announces he'll vote for Brett Kavanaugh Autumn May 2022 #5
Manchin. SergeStorms May 2022 #11
Yeah, he helped get all of MF45's SCROTUS appointments confirmed. FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #13
Fuck ManChin and his millions$$. NoMoreRepugs May 2022 #24
"I believe he will rule in a manner consistent with our Constitution." XacerbatedDem May 2022 #17
I remember. mcar May 2022 #6
I'll never forget. Some of them are unable to understand what Hortensis May 2022 #8
My cousin's twenty-something gay son called her a "c#$t" LuvLoogie May 2022 #9
Your parents sound like mine were mcar May 2022 #15
Yup. I'll take the ESTABLISHMENT any day over the millionare performance artists Budi May 2022 #18
I am with her all the way. 2naSalit May 2022 #7
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #31
Republicans are all about breaking everything in America IronLionZion May 2022 #10
Proud to say I voted for her, and worked hard for her. calimary May 2022 #14
You meant Neil Gorsuch. herding cats May 2022 #20
Yes. Correct. I couldn't think of his name at the moment. calimary May 2022 #26
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #32
Don't forget the McConnell/Garland bullshit world wide wally May 2022 #21
I don't entirely disagree Zeitghost May 2022 #28
The abortion vote they are acting on probably would have gone 5-4 in the opposite direction world wide wally May 2022 #29
Agreed Zeitghost May 2022 #30
Prophetic uponit7771 May 2022 #22
All you Democrats remember the ones that said this, "Oh, I just can't vote for Hillary." spike jones May 2022 #23
Because it was so fun to hate the fictional Satan Hillary. betsuni May 2022 #25
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #33
I went to sleep llashram May 2022 #34

rurallib

(62,465 posts)
1. Since it is nearly impossible for SCOTUS to directly feel any heat
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:16 PM
May 2022

for their decisions, I suspect they will become a wrecking ball.

Given time, they will not only go after Roe proximate decisions like Griswold but will range as far as Social Security and Medicare.

rurallib

(62,465 posts)
16. Obergefell for sure
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:07 PM
May 2022

for the sake of brevity I just did a quick list.

Pretty much anything from the Warren Court era on is now targeted with some from the FDR era thrown in.

And they will have loads of time to work on their destructive mission:

name - age

Thomas: 74
Alito: 72
Roberts: 67
Kavanaugh: 57
Gorsuch: ~55
Barret: 50

So they got @10 to 15 years as the current unit they are + maybe 25 years for the junior partners in that team.

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
19. +1
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:17 PM
May 2022

I am believer that's next up.

Recall this from 2020?

Justices Thomas, Alito Blast Supreme Court Decision On Same-Sex Marriage Rights

Supreme Court Justices Clarence Thomas and Samuel Alito issued a broadside against the high court's 2015 same-sex marriage decision on Monday when the court declined to hear a case brought by a former Kentucky county clerk who refused to issue a marriage license for such couples.

The two justices agreed with the decision not to hear the case but used the occasion to take a legal baseball bat to the court's 2015 decision Obergefell v. Hodges, which declared that same-sex couples have a constitutional right to marry under the 14th Amendment guarantee to equal protection of the law.

Writing for himself and Alito, Thomas said that the court's decision "enables courts and governments to brand religious adherents who believe that marriage is between one man and one woman as bigots, making their religious liberty concerns that much easier to dismiss."

His words came in a case brought by Kim Davis, a former county clerk in Kentucky, who in the aftermath of the same-sex marriage decision refused to issue marriage licenses to same-sex couples and was sued.

"Davis may have been one of the first victims of this court's cavalier treatment of religion in its Obergefell decision," Thomas and Alito wrote. But they agreed that the court properly decided not to take up Davis' case because, they said, it does not "cleanly" present the issues in the court's 5-4 decision five years ago.

Nevertheless, they said, the case "provides a stark reminder" of the consequences of the same-sex marriage decision. By choosing to endorse "a novel constitutional right over the religious liberty interests explicitly protected in the First Amendment, and by doing so undemocratically, the court has created a problem that only it can fix," they said. "Until then, Obergefell will continue to have ruinous consequences for religious liberty."

The fact that Thomas and Alito chose this moment to issue their blast provoked dismay in the LGBT community and elsewhere.
https://www.npr.org/2020/10/05/920416357/justices-thomas-alito-blast-supreme-court-decision-on-gay-marriage-rights

soldierant

(6,938 posts)
27. My Democratic Governor
Tue May 3, 2022, 06:51 PM
May 2022

just in the last coupl of years - definitely since the beginning of CoViD because that was what opened his eyes to the need - married his long term partner. Theyhave I think a couple of kids I know they have onedaughter (and I respect their privacy) - I, and so many other COloradans were so happy for them. And, of course, many others across the nation.

There are lots of things in this decision, and what it presages, to break hearts. Obergefell is just one of them. But I didn't want it forgotten.

Autumn

(45,120 posts)
5. Remember this? Sen. Joe Manchin announces he'll vote for Brett Kavanaugh
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:24 PM
May 2022

He’s expected to help Republicans reach the 51-vote threshold to confirm the nominee.



https://www.vox.com/2018/10/5/17939302/brett-kavanaugh-vote-joe-manchin
Sen. Joe Manchin (D-WV) — a red-state Democrat who crossed party lines to vote for President Trump’s first Supreme Court nominee Neil Gorsuch — announced on Friday that he would vote for Brett Kavanaugh, a statement that all but cleared Kavanaugh’s path to the Court.

Manchin’s statement was released shortly after Sen. Susan Collins (R-ME) — another closely watched swing senator — announced her support for the nominee.

All of the lawmakers viewed as pivotal swing votes have now announced how they plan to vote on Kavanaugh’s nomination. And unless there’s a surprise defection in the rest of the Republican caucus, it appears he will be confirmed.

“I have reservations about this vote given the serious accusations against Judge Kavanaugh and the temperament he displayed in the hearing,” Manchin said in a statement explaining his decision. “I believe he will rule in a manner consistent with our Constitution.”

SergeStorms

(19,204 posts)
11. Manchin.
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:54 PM
May 2022
Words fail to describe how I feel about Joe Manchin.

And the Manchin apologists say, "what about getting Biden's Judges confirmed".

Yeah, what about the freaking Judges he helped confirm!

FoxNewsSucks

(10,435 posts)
13. Yeah, he helped get all of MF45's SCROTUS appointments confirmed.
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:57 PM
May 2022

One can only wonder whose side he's on.

XacerbatedDem

(511 posts)
17. "I believe he will rule in a manner consistent with our Constitution."
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:07 PM
May 2022

If he means him and his republicon buddies, that should be a small "c".

mcar

(42,406 posts)
6. I remember.
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:29 PM
May 2022

I also remember all the scorn heaped on her by the "conscience voters" on the far left - and on us "vagina voters."

I will never forget, nor forgive. We are here because of them.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
8. I'll never forget. Some of them are unable to understand what
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:38 PM
May 2022

they did wrong and will never change. Like RW extremists and nutcases, those are what they are.

The others, though, who voted discontents and grievances instead of commitment to making progressive goals real, who voted dangerously heedless of consequences (!), who chose candidates for promises that couldn't be carried out as "statements" about their own high ideals -- I've been angry every time I think of them for 6 years. And 2016 is still happening.

LuvLoogie

(7,057 posts)
9. My cousin's twenty-something gay son called her a "c#$t"
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:45 PM
May 2022

My twenty-something liberal half-brother called her a criminal

Another cousin and her husband were Jill Stein supporters.

My mother's siblings and most of their kids are trump supporters. My mother wasn't, though. She passed in 2018. Missing her.

My Dad was an old school liberal, too. Tough, compassionate. No bullshit when it cam to politics. He'd have voted for Hillary.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
18. Yup. I'll take the ESTABLISHMENT any day over the millionare performance artists
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:11 PM
May 2022

When all one needs is Media Name Recognition & no record to prove their words are valid, Roe v Wade today is the result.

Response to 2naSalit (Reply #7)

IronLionZion

(45,565 posts)
10. Republicans are all about breaking everything in America
Tue May 3, 2022, 04:45 PM
May 2022

Just look at how many pro-lifers wanted people to die of COVID or die of police brutality or die of poverty and so on.

calimary

(81,527 posts)
14. Proud to say I voted for her, and worked hard for her.
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:02 PM
May 2022

Last edited Tue May 3, 2022, 06:39 PM - Edit history (1)

We sure as hell would NOT have the Three Jerks on the Supreme Court now if she’d been the one to nominate judicial candidates.

There wouldn’t have been a Gorsuch*, nor a Kavanaugh, and certainly not an Amy Coney Barrett.

I put it to all the Hillary haters: is THIS what you wanted? Happy NOW???


*edited to correct. When I wrote this last night, I was so upset I forgot about the "trump hell three". Alito was already in there from before. Just as bad, but not like three of 'em in a row, from one cheated-to-get-in "president."

herding cats

(19,569 posts)
20. You meant Neil Gorsuch.
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:22 PM
May 2022

Alito was a GW pick, who up until Trump's picks, I never thought I'd see a less qualified SCJ. How wrong I was.

calimary

(81,527 posts)
26. Yes. Correct. I couldn't think of his name at the moment.
Tue May 3, 2022, 06:36 PM
May 2022

Thanks for the reminder. I'm adjusting my post accordingly.

Response to calimary (Reply #14)

world wide wally

(21,757 posts)
21. Don't forget the McConnell/Garland bullshit
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:31 PM
May 2022

Republicans repeatedly break the law and NEVER pay any consequences.

spike jones

(1,690 posts)
23. All you Democrats remember the ones that said this, "Oh, I just can't vote for Hillary."
Tue May 3, 2022, 05:59 PM
May 2022

Fuck all of them forever.

BTW sit down and shut up, you do not have the judgement to contribute anything progressive on the issue. Or else get out into the streets and make a difference.

Response to betsuni (Reply #25)

llashram

(6,265 posts)
34. I went to sleep
Wed May 4, 2022, 12:50 PM
May 2022

election night 2016 in the FIRM knowledge my candidate would win. The next morning my heart fell onto the ground and the rethugs stomped on it. HRC was the proper candidate to win. TFG was installed and here we are. Jesus!!! What a can of worms that POS opened.

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