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Today is Kent State Day (Original Post) twodogsbarking May 2022 OP
4 dead in o hi o rampartc May 2022 #1
Better audio quality from their own channel IronLionZion May 2022 #6
I'm going to post later on about this. Diamond_Dog May 2022 #2
I was there for little sis samplegirl May 2022 #3
K & R lastlib May 2022 #4
It was a Turning Point in my life..... ashredux May 2022 #5
It was a turning point in support for the war, too. wnylib May 2022 #8
. . . niyad May 2022 #7
Martial law was imposed. Remember it well. Reagan wished more were killed. Many did. Evolve Dammit May 2022 #9
Went to Kent State -- sad no one talks about Jackson State JT45242 May 2022 #10
Great post. CBS news has honored the day by stating today twodogsbarking May 2022 #11
That's all I heard on ABC this morning also. llmart May 2022 #18
There's a parallel here with Ukraine underpants May 2022 #16
And there was a similar slaughter at Jackson State University. raging moderate May 2022 #12
It is all too sad but shouldn't be ignored or forgotten. twodogsbarking May 2022 #14
Can't help but think Trump was asking for this in 2020 Johnny2X2X May 2022 #13
Thanks I didn't know the date. underpants May 2022 #15
This date was the beginning of my becoming a liberal. ificandream May 2022 #17
The turning point. byronius May 2022 #19

JT45242

(2,258 posts)
10. Went to Kent State -- sad no one talks about Jackson State
Wed May 4, 2022, 09:31 AM
May 2022

I was on campus for the 25th anniversary of the shooting.

My FIL was a student at the time (walked out of the architecture 5 minutes before the shooting started.

The photo of the HS runaway girl holding a dead body on the cover of the most prominent news magazine of the time was major factor in sentiment changing about the vietnam war.

52 years later -- the blatant systemic racism that led to a similar massacre at Jackson State is still ignored. Just like the Tulsa race massacre has been widely ignored. We could list the other atrocities committed against blacks and they would largely be ignored. That is sad.

When middle class white kids get shot -- it is on the front page. When black kids are killed police (in the 1970s or all the way through today) it is just another statistic. Sadly, the systemic racism of our country has proven Soviet dictators correct -- "One death is a tragedy. Millions are a statistic."

llmart

(15,535 posts)
18. That's all I heard on ABC this morning also.
Wed May 4, 2022, 10:16 AM
May 2022

Probably on all the major news shows because isn't Star Wars so much more important in our history than Kent State and the Viet Nam War?

underpants

(182,725 posts)
16. There's a parallel here with Ukraine
Wed May 4, 2022, 10:01 AM
May 2022

Americans don’t give a rip about the horrible things that happen in Africa or Asia. Ukrainians are white people who look a lot like the Home Goods crowd. We no like seeing the white people suffer.

Yes Jackson State has been completely ignored.

raging moderate

(4,296 posts)
12. And there was a similar slaughter at Jackson State University.
Wed May 4, 2022, 09:48 AM
May 2022

Let us always mention Jackson State University, where the same thing happened. I read that one of the young people who was shot and killed had NOTHING to do with the protest. He was, in fact, a young brand-new father, on his way home from work to his poor young postpartum wife and her poor tiny new baby.

twodogsbarking

(9,722 posts)
14. It is all too sad but shouldn't be ignored or forgotten.
Wed May 4, 2022, 09:53 AM
May 2022

Teaching it in school will upset some students, don't ya know.
Thanks for your excellent comment. I apologize for being a downer. Stay strong
everyone and don't give up. We can only get better if we acknowledge the truth no
matter how bitter.

Johnny2X2X

(19,005 posts)
13. Can't help but think Trump was asking for this in 2020
Wed May 4, 2022, 09:50 AM
May 2022

When he asked his military leaders, "Can't we shoot protesters in the legs?" He wanted something like this.

underpants

(182,725 posts)
15. Thanks I didn't know the date.
Wed May 4, 2022, 09:58 AM
May 2022

Nick Saban, the football coach at Alabama, was in his freshman year at Kent State. He and his roommate went to eat instead of going to see what was going on in the student commons area. I’m summarizing here. He’s been very open and public, yes in Alabama, about how he feels about it and how lucky he is that they weren’t in the area. One of the girls was in a class with him not that he really knew her. You can find videos of him talking about it on YouTube.

Saban grew up and played ball with Sen. Manchin in Farmington WV. They are still close friends.

ificandream

(9,357 posts)
17. This date was the beginning of my becoming a liberal.
Wed May 4, 2022, 10:09 AM
May 2022

I was in junior college and we were in the middle of a school-wide protest on the war. Both liberals and conservatives protested. This was an eye-opener to me.

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