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Samrob

(4,298 posts)
Thu May 5, 2022, 10:55 AM May 2022

Are there no democratic "oligarchs" in our country who could offer parcels of land to be developed

to build living spaces for legitimate asylum seekers at our borders? So much of US land is barren and unused. Who owns it? Couldn't it be donated to the Feds for tax breaks or for investment incentives?

A lot of the asylum seekers are skilled laborers who could build their own housing and roads if given building material aid. They could be paid for their labor and be given full wages or opt for taking smaller subsidies for rent for living accommodations. Asylum seekers especially Ukrainian seekers could be given TEMPORARY asylum until they were able to return to Ukraine and rebuild their own country.

I just refuse to believe that we cannot come up with viable solutions to our immigration and asylum situation. Surely there are educated city planners, engineers and social service workers who could jointly formulate plans to address this.

It would be far cheaper to do something like this than to pay huge sums of money for failing border walls and paying salary and benefits for border patrols that under perform in so many ways. America would benefit from solving these problems.

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Are there no democratic "oligarchs" in our country who could offer parcels of land to be developed (Original Post) Samrob May 2022 OP
You're asking for logic to triumph. Pantagruel May 2022 #1
Just use some of the military's budget n/t leftstreet May 2022 #2
They would need jobs too TheRealNorth May 2022 #3
Their jobs would be to build ...build...build back better. Samrob May 2022 #5
Insane that our carmakers are stalled because of a microchip shortage in foreign countries, Midnight Writer May 2022 #4
Why do you think they haven't? dumbcat May 2022 #7
Don't know. Big topic in business news. My guess it would be more profitable than Twitter, Midnight Writer May 2022 #8
Money is why they haven't DetroitLegalBeagle May 2022 #9
Why should they not integrate into the rest of society? Ohio Joe May 2022 #6
The time has come to replace corporate persons with corporal persons sanatanadharma May 2022 #10
The "barren and unused" land you speak of is mostly owned by the feds already. former9thward May 2022 #11
It isn't about lack of ideas. It is a lack of political will. Caliman73 May 2022 #12

TheRealNorth

(9,500 posts)
3. They would need jobs too
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:09 AM
May 2022

Services like Police, Fire,.Public Health need to be paid for, at least until a tax base could be established so that the community could pay for them.

Samrob

(4,298 posts)
5. Their jobs would be to build ...build...build back better.
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:40 AM
May 2022

After one year, many Ukrainians would opt to return home to rebuild their own country. Many want to return even now.

If we (US) would devote enough financing to help cleaning up the crime and corruption in central American countries from where many of those seeking asylum come, even many of them would opt to return home to build and clean up their own countries.

Midnight Writer

(21,816 posts)
4. Insane that our carmakers are stalled because of a microchip shortage in foreign countries,
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:29 AM
May 2022

when we could set up facilities and jobs here at home to supply them.

Seems a rich oligarch investor could make a killing by creating a steady, reliable, ample supply train of special use chips that are not subject to supply disruptions.

Midnight Writer

(21,816 posts)
8. Don't know. Big topic in business news. My guess it would be more profitable than Twitter,
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:16 PM
May 2022

and more in the wheelhouse of someone like Musk, who is having chip supply problems with his own Tesla. It would also give him competitive edge over other car manufacturers. He could build custom chips to order, instead of taking other chips and modifying them to his needs.

DetroitLegalBeagle

(1,927 posts)
9. Money is why they haven't
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:17 PM
May 2022

Building a new production facilities here would take billions of dollars and 3-5 years from planning it out to actually getting chips out the door. Intel is planning on building 2 factories in Ohio at a cost of $20 billion. Its construction won't be started till later this year and they won't be producing anything until 2025. By then, the shortage will be over. Few people or businesses are going to risk that outlay of capital and time for a venture that may ultimately not make them any money on their investment.

sanatanadharma

(3,739 posts)
10. The time has come to replace corporate persons with corporal persons
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:47 PM
May 2022

Vast acreage of Kansas, owned by the legal fiction of corporate person identity, ought be confiscated and resettled by (those who want) farm families from Ukraine; adorned with sunflowers as the State is.

One opinion from a mortal person, not an eternal (corporate) person.

former9thward

(32,093 posts)
11. The "barren and unused" land you speak of is mostly owned by the feds already.
Thu May 5, 2022, 01:21 PM
May 2022

So nothing needs to be donated.

Caliman73

(11,744 posts)
12. It isn't about lack of ideas. It is a lack of political will.
Thu May 5, 2022, 01:42 PM
May 2022

Conservatives would decry these projects as simply inviting other "unwashed and unwanted masses" to the United States. Democrats often appear too scared they will get bashed by conservatives as inviting said masses and are timid about immigration.

I say that since capitalism and often, direct interference from the US actually creates a lot of the pressures for people to emigrate and seek assylum, that the funds we spend should be to help the countries where immigrants come from to create better conditions for the people. Stop immigration at the source and then welcome immigrants who really just want to come here for a different life, not fleeing the horrible conditions we have helped to create.

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