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HariSeldon

(540 posts)
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:05 AM May 2022

Gloves off: Rs want to literally burn women at the stake

I mean, why is Alito citing Matthew Hale who -- historical fact! -- ordered women to be burned for witchcraft unless he wants America headed down the same road. Republicans aren't even saying "I agree with the conclusion but, gee, that English guy was a bit extreme"...no, the Republican response is "I can't believe someone violated the sacred confidentiality of the SCOTUS! Unbelievable!"

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Gloves off: Rs want to literally burn women at the stake (Original Post) HariSeldon May 2022 OP
Absolutely bucolic_frolic May 2022 #1
We're on a dangerous path. onecaliberal May 2022 #2
This message was self-deleted by its author exboyfil May 2022 #3
Hillary Clinton was their 1st Woman to be burned at the stake. Budi May 2022 #4
i hate to be that person, but we didnt burn witches here. we hung them mopinko May 2022 #5
Nevermind OP used "literally" Cerridwen May 2022 #8
Americans didn't burn witches, but Hale was English HariSeldon May 2022 #10
So it has been since the fight for abortion rights started heating up in the 70s. Runningdawg May 2022 #6
Alito is Opus Dei, isn't he? Ilsa May 2022 #7
Under the Spanish Inquisition DBoon May 2022 #9
By "Gloves off", do you mean are going to continue what you've been doing for years? Kaleva May 2022 #11
I mean I'm not self-censoring HariSeldon May 2022 #12

bucolic_frolic

(54,496 posts)
1. Absolutely
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:10 AM
May 2022

These guys get off on the whole "women in distress" theme. And the actual women in their lives go along with it because it makes them seem superior. The only loser is the witch, but she was viewed as evil from the start.

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Budi

(15,325 posts)
4. Hillary Clinton was their 1st Woman to be burned at the stake.
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:25 AM
May 2022

She was the 1st chosen as their trial run of mass media, foreign troll farms, Silicon Valley messaging & money devoured the powerful good she would bring & puked it back up as a mass smear & debasing image re-make.

They literally recreated a negative image of her to justify a reason to purge the country of That Woman.

And the opportunists of quick cash & instant celebrity fame, politicians with zero creds behind the pure populist picture of themselves they drew, jumped right in and cheered as the flames were lit & then grabbed up HER mandate from the ashes.

They all screeched, men & women included, danced & applauded in pure tribal fashion & fed that fire that Burned Her & America's Democracy to the ground.

There's not a GdDamn thing any of them can say nor do to ever atone for that tribal political bullshit against the one woman who had it right all along.

So far not one has offered so much as a whisper of a mea culpa.

Yet here they all come now, with their campaign & 'send money cuz we're fighting for you' statements of Rights & Roe.

The Hypocricy is galling.

This is why they had to burn it all down:


mopinko

(73,422 posts)
5. i hate to be that person, but we didnt burn witches here. we hung them
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:37 AM
May 2022

and pressed them, and i think drowned them. but burning was a european thing.

i get the drama part. but it does leave an open question they should be asked- just how do you want to murder witches? lethal injection ok, or do we need to be traditional? if you were born w the mark of the devil, and had it removed, does that make you doubly evil?
trial by drowning still work? or will we keep this on the up and up and do it in the courtroom?

Cerridwen

(13,262 posts)
8. Nevermind OP used "literally"
Thu May 5, 2022, 12:18 PM
May 2022

Left original for future use

Metaphor

https://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-1-d&q=Metaphor

met·a·phor
/ˈmedəˌfôr,ˈmedəˌfər/


noun: metaphor; plural noun: metaphors

a figure of speech in which a word or phrase is applied to an object or action to which it is not literally applicable.
"her poetry depends on suggestion and metaphor"
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Similar:
figure of speech

a thing regarded as representative or symbolic of something else, especially something abstract.
"the amounts of money being lost by the company were enough to make it a metaphor for an industry that was teetering"

Runningdawg

(4,660 posts)
6. So it has been since the fight for abortion rights started heating up in the 70s.
Thu May 5, 2022, 11:39 AM
May 2022

Rural OK Baptist church in 1972 - No woman can kill a child without being a servant of satan. Thou shall not suffer a witch to live.
The next inquisition has arrived and most are still in denial.
Let me remind you OK is (currently) the only state with a woman serving a prison sentence for murder by miscarriage. I feel certain OKs trigger law will make such offenses punishable by death.

HariSeldon

(540 posts)
12. I mean I'm not self-censoring
Thu May 12, 2022, 03:12 PM
May 2022

I am trying, as I think all Democrats now should, to cast the observed actions of Republicans in their harshest possible light. In the past I have advocated trying to find common ground with reasonable conservatives and I know others personally and on this forum who advocate the same. The result, however, has been that Democrats look tepid while Republicans look passionate; this has a large impact on media representation, partisan enthusiasm (for Democrats), and swaying low-information voters. We need to change those things, so we need a change to our messaging.

Thus, I am allowing my inference a bit more play than previously: if the conservative justices of the SCOTUS feel that Hale has a valid point about abortion, why not assume they and their Republican legislative compatriots feel the same about all the ways Hale treated women -- including burning them for the practice of witchcraft?

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