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liberalmediaaddict

(766 posts)
Thu May 5, 2022, 01:46 PM May 2022

Question about the Texas 6 week ban

One thing I still can't figure out about the pending SCOTUS abortion ruling.

Say the court votes to make Dobbs vs Jackson 15 week ban the law of the land. As a replacement for Roe v Wade.

Would that new law make the Texas 6 week ban null and void? Or can a bunch of red states just simply pass their own version of the Texas bounty hunter law.

In which case Roe vs Wade will essentially be overturned and abortions would not be offered after 6 weeks.

Either way I feel like we're going to be living in a post-Roe country no matter what the Roberts court decides. At least in 2 dozen red states. Scary times.

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LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
1. The court has three options:
Thu May 5, 2022, 01:55 PM
May 2022

1 Keep Roe V Wade as is
2 Accept Dobbs and set a 15 week ban
3 Overturn Roe V Wade entirely

Texas has a trigger, which means if R v W is overturned, then abortion will be completely illegal in Texas. No abortions can be performed at any time.

If court goes with option 2 or 1 they may still keep the six week law on the books because it's weird and bizarre and it's a civil thing, that doesn't really fall into R v W


liberalmediaaddict

(766 posts)
6. The Texas law is what's truly insane
Thu May 5, 2022, 04:48 PM
May 2022

The fact SCOTUS allowed it to take effect shows their hostility towards Roe. Seems like the 5 Federalist society judges can't wait to get rid of it.

FBaggins

(26,727 posts)
2. Nothing indicates that they might craft a new "Dobbs" standard
Thu May 5, 2022, 02:02 PM
May 2022

The draft appears to indicate returning the issue of abortion to the states... not replacing Roe/Casey/etc. with a new (e.g., "Dobbs&quot federal standard of 15 weeks.

LeftInTX

(25,201 posts)
3. You're right. If they just accept Dobbs, they will just accept for Mississippi
Thu May 5, 2022, 02:06 PM
May 2022

It will be like any other case and it will galvanize other states to craft 15 week bans.

CrispyQ

(36,437 posts)
4. Young people starting families need to think seriously which states they want to live in.
Thu May 5, 2022, 02:34 PM
May 2022

Seven states allow full access to abortion.

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/abortion-laws-by-state

AK - Alaska
CO - Colorado
NH - New Hampshire
NJ - New Jersey
NM - New Mexico
OR - Oregon
VT - Vermont

Kind of surprised to see Alaska on the list.


An Overview of State Abortion Laws
Information here is provided by the Guttmacher Institute:

https://worldpopulationreview.com/state-rankings/abortion-laws-by-state

snip...

38 states require an abortion to be performed by a licensed physician

19 states require an abortion to be performed in a hospital after a specific point in the pregnancy

17 states require the involvement of a second physician after a specific point

43 states prohibit abortion after a specific point in pregnancy, except when necessary to protect the woman's life

21 states have laws prohibiting "partial-birth abortions (three apply only to post-viability abortions)

16 states use their own funds to pay for all or most medically necessary abortions for Medicaid enrollees

33 states and the District of Columbia prohibit the use of state funds except when federal funds are available (where the woman's life is in danger or is the result of incest or rape)

12 states restrict abortion coverage in private insurance plans (most often limiting coverage for when a woman's life is in danger)

45 states allow individual health care providers to refuse to participate in an abortion

42 states allow institutions to refuse to perform abortions (16 of which limit regular to private or religious institutions

18 states require women be given counseling before an abortion that includes information on at least one of the following: the purported link between abortion and breast cancer (5 states), the ability of a fetus to feel pain (13 states), or long-term mental health consequences for the women (8 states)

25 states require a woman seeking an abortion to wait a period of time, usually 24 hours, between receiving counseling and the procedure (12 of these states have laws that require the woman to make two separate trips to the clinic to obtain the procedure)

37 states require some type of parental involvement in a minor's decision to have an abortion (27 states require one or both parents to consent to the procedure, and ten require that one or both parents be notified).

Polybius

(15,364 posts)
5. 38 states require an abortion to be performed by a licensed physician
Thu May 5, 2022, 03:19 PM
May 2022

I think I'm ok with that. Shouldn't it be only preformed by someone who knows medical procedures, in case something goes wrong?

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