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maxrandb

(17,424 posts)
Fri May 6, 2022, 02:34 PM May 2022

Fuck Esper! Fuck Milley! Fuck Kelly! Fuck Wray! Fuck Comey! Fuck ALL the coward enablers!

My fucking God! I served almost 30 years in the Navy. I don't consider myself some kind of hero, or the epitome of integrity, but I think for sure I would have screamed from the rafters if I ever worked for a person of such immense power that was FUCKING INSANE!

I would like to think that, even if it would have cost a career, some things are so God damned important you are obligated to report up the chain of command.

That obligation doesn't stop when you "are" the chain of command. If anything, that obligation intensifies when you reach the pinnacle.

We have fucking 18 year old men and women serving as Plane Captains on the flight deck of aircraft carriers. Those 18 year old kids can stop the entire flight schedule if something isn't right...No questions asked, until it is determined that an aircraft is fit to fly, or discrepacies are fixed.

We expect more from 18 year old kids, than we do from leaders?

You know, the fact that a fucking orange circus clown wanted to fucking bomb Mexico, and blame it on another country IS SOMETHING THE AMERICAN PEOPLE SHOULD HAVE KNOWN BEFORE THE NOVEMBER ELECTION.

When you march with a dipshit, in your uniform, to a place where he just ordered the violent assault on your fellow Americans so he can have a fucking photo OP, I will accept an apology from Seaman Gundeck, but an apology from the fucking Chairman of the fucking Joint Chiefs of fucking Staff is not enough

Kind of makes me think that all those lecture about Honor, Courage, Committment and Integrity only applied to junior military personnel.

No one can take your integrity from you. You have to give it away.

Fuck every last one of these sanctimonious pricks. They have done more to tear down America than Donnie Dipshit and Putin combined.

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Fuck Esper! Fuck Milley! Fuck Kelly! Fuck Wray! Fuck Comey! Fuck ALL the coward enablers! (Original Post) maxrandb May 2022 OP
A Big Fat K&R Diamond_Dog May 2022 #1
Cowards all of them, none of them have duty, honor, or country wildman76 May 2022 #2
they're just scared of public outrage created by 1500 coordinated radio stations that dems ignore certainot May 2022 #56
I agree, fuck all of them. SamKnause May 2022 #3
K&R onecaliberal May 2022 #4
They are waiting for their book kacekwl May 2022 #5
+100000 Pachamama May 2022 #66
You can add Garland to that list. slater71 May 2022 #6
Garland..no.. agingdem May 2022 #42
Indeed. Duppers May 2022 #58
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #63
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #64
The list of people who betrayed our country during that administration is a mile long. LonePirate May 2022 #7
Add Mueller who neglected to investigate the orange traitor's finances... Justice matters. May 2022 #47
Righteous rant, K & R...nt Wounded Bear May 2022 #8
Amen.... SergeStorms May 2022 #9
K&R for, yip. & he's explicit with the cover, "Somebody worse, if I spoke up or left". UTUSN May 2022 #10
But isn't that likely the case? Replaced with a far worse "yes man"? oldsoftie May 2022 #62
Fuck the fucking fuckers! Jerry2144 May 2022 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author jfz9580m May 2022 #12
Amen to that Joinfortmill May 2022 #13
Profiles in greed and cowardice. spanone May 2022 #14
Two Words: Michael Flynn. Tommymac May 2022 #15
Clearly we lack the ability to hold ANYONE accountable. I thought the military could. I was wrong. Evolve Dammit May 2022 #49
Absolutely! BlueJac May 2022 #16
I learned the "Don't Buy Books By Crooks" back in the post-Watergate era. calimary May 2022 #23
Me, too. Deuxcents May 2022 #55
Absolutely! Duppers May 2022 #59
The problem is Mr.Bill May 2022 #17
Please add Mueller to the list. He had a chance spooky3 May 2022 #18
Yes - Mueller undoubtedly knew way more than what went into his report FakeNoose May 2022 #24
Isn't he too far into his dotage to write... /nt artemisia1 May 2022 #28
He ultimately proved to be uninterested, intimidated or controlled. Bronze star and all. Evolve Dammit May 2022 #50
Message auto-removed Name removed May 2022 #19
Thank you. What you state should be obvious to all. kr PufPuf23 May 2022 #20
Absofuckinloutly perfectly said! bsiebs May 2022 #21
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Not the first time in history. We did not hear about wnylib May 2022 #25
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He sure did. If I renember right, he wnylib May 2022 #37
Wish I could recommend more than once. madaboutharry May 2022 #26
Prior to and on J6, Milley stood between wnylib May 2022 #27
Accomplices. Not enablers. Iggo May 2022 #29
brilliant!!! Thank you! bluboid May 2022 #30
K and fucking R Blue Owl May 2022 #31
One hand washes the other... dlk May 2022 #32
yep, all refuKKKchickens, every damn one bringthePaine May 2022 #33
The R. The R. The R. Every time. czarjak May 2022 #34
Part of being a repub during this time is the total lack of morals...it's all about their goals. unitedwethrive May 2022 #36
Life In Prison For All The Criminals That Protected TFG While He Was Doing His Thousands Of Crimes DanieRains May 2022 #38
Oh, I so agree. mountain grammy May 2022 #39
Somebody please tell me what to Google to find out what this rant is about JohnnyRingo May 2022 #40
Mark Esper, former Secretary of Defense, has a book coming out. Haggis 4 Breakfast May 2022 #44
Prob is, millions would have, and will still vote for him, in spite of, and because of all that is childfreebychoice May 2022 #41
We need more men like Alexander Vindman harumph May 2022 #43
Fuck every single one of these assholes budkin May 2022 #45
"Fucking A" SimplyHadEnough May 2022 #46
Fuck 'em all! Those are books worthy of burning. Cowards all. Concerned only about themselves. Evolve Dammit May 2022 #48
May I just add Six117 May 2022 #51
We can only be best betrayed by our heroes. jaxexpat May 2022 #52
Exactly! dlk May 2022 #53
I don't blame Miley Redleg May 2022 #54
While I admire your passion, I think perhaps another possibility exists NullTuples May 2022 #57
CancunCruz and his father are Dominionists. efhmc May 2022 #65
Most of the Christian Republicans in power are Dominionists. As are many scattered in the ranks. NullTuples May 2022 #67
They get praised for being a firewall against TFG's worst impulses Martin Eden May 2022 #60
they are republicans - nothing else to expect from them samsingh May 2022 #61
 

certainot

(9,090 posts)
56. they're just scared of public outrage created by 1500 coordinated radio stations that dems ignore
Sat May 7, 2022, 01:19 AM
May 2022

and the russians have been using it since at least 2008- palin

kacekwl

(9,142 posts)
5. They are waiting for their book
Fri May 6, 2022, 02:43 PM
May 2022

release before they open their mouths. Traitors one and all.

Pachamama

(17,564 posts)
66. +100000
Sat May 7, 2022, 12:09 PM
May 2022

It’s disgusting what they do for self-enrichment and then claim that they are some how patriotic and did what they did because it was necessary.

slater71

(1,153 posts)
6. You can add Garland to that list.
Fri May 6, 2022, 02:49 PM
May 2022

You are right except for one thing and that is everyone should have known about Trump wanting to bomb Mexico. It would not have mattered to most of them. FOX never would have reported on that and to the people who watch nothing but FOX, it would have been nothing but fake news. FOX is allowed to lie and covering Trump`s ass is also a major problem. It should never be allowed. I am afraid that Trump or Desantis will be the Putin authoritarian dictator here. If the Republicans take the Senate and the House and then the White House, it`s over for the Democrats to ever hold control of anything. The republicans will never give that up. Thanks for your service. A Vietnam Era Vet here.

agingdem

(8,840 posts)
42. Garland..no..
Fri May 6, 2022, 05:39 PM
May 2022

Last edited Fri May 6, 2022, 06:22 PM - Edit history (1)

the aforementioned coddling assholes were Trump's guys..

Response to Duppers (Reply #58)

Response to slater71 (Reply #6)

LonePirate

(14,367 posts)
7. The list of people who betrayed our country during that administration is a mile long.
Fri May 6, 2022, 03:09 PM
May 2022

Every single person in the administration and even those tangentially connected to it such as the Secret Service and journalists betrayed this country by either enabling or not speaking out against that incompetent traitor. We are so fucked as a country.

 

oldsoftie

(13,538 posts)
62. But isn't that likely the case? Replaced with a far worse "yes man"?
Sat May 7, 2022, 09:10 AM
May 2022

I mean, imagine the Cabinet filled with Stephen millers instead of Esper & whoever else were privately roadblocking Trump?
Its almost like a spy; they don't quit & speak out against Putin or whoever, but they accomplish far more by staying in place?

Jerry2144

(3,272 posts)
11. Fuck the fucking fuckers!
Fri May 6, 2022, 03:18 PM
May 2022

Metaphorically, not literally. especially since they took away the right to an abortion.

Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
15. Two Words: Michael Flynn.
Fri May 6, 2022, 03:27 PM
May 2022

Still a CLEAR and PRESENT Danger.

The Army needs to recall him to duty then court martial the shit out of him. The evidence that he is a fucking TRAITOR is solid and it is out there.

His brother, an ACTIVE General in the US Army, needs to be investigated with a fine tooth comb too.

Time for the dress white inspection gloves to be put on and every piece of dirt they expose needs to be mopped up. No time for snafu's.

Evolve Dammit

(21,770 posts)
49. Clearly we lack the ability to hold ANYONE accountable. I thought the military could. I was wrong.
Fri May 6, 2022, 08:10 PM
May 2022

BlueJac

(7,838 posts)
16. Absolutely!
Fri May 6, 2022, 03:29 PM
May 2022

They did not worry about the country, they waited like cowards so they could get rich off a fucking book they would write. Total cowards and money grubbing clowns! I refuse to buy their stories and contribute to these assholes. K&R

calimary

(89,983 posts)
23. I learned the "Don't Buy Books By Crooks" back in the post-Watergate era.
Fri May 6, 2022, 03:49 PM
May 2022

I still follow that rule.

Mr.Bill

(24,906 posts)
17. The problem is
Fri May 6, 2022, 03:32 PM
May 2022

if you told the American people he wanted to bomb Mexico, he probably would have won the election. I'm not kidding. Republicans are that fucked up.

spooky3

(38,631 posts)
18. Please add Mueller to the list. He had a chance
Fri May 6, 2022, 03:33 PM
May 2022

To speak out and make a huge difference. But he hid behind a paper policy—not a law—because he was a coward.

FakeNoose

(41,603 posts)
24. Yes - Mueller undoubtedly knew way more than what went into his report
Fri May 6, 2022, 03:57 PM
May 2022

I wonder if Robert Mueller will ever write a book?

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Response to maxrandb (Original post)

Response to wnylib (Reply #25)

wnylib

(25,998 posts)
37. He sure did. If I renember right, he
Fri May 6, 2022, 05:05 PM
May 2022

removed the Joints Chief to a lateral position in Europe.

wnylib

(25,998 posts)
27. Prior to and on J6, Milley stood between
Fri May 6, 2022, 04:12 PM
May 2022

Trump and the Constitution to prevent the use of the military in the coup attempt. I am glad for his integrity on that score.

unitedwethrive

(2,016 posts)
36. Part of being a repub during this time is the total lack of morals...it's all about their goals.
Fri May 6, 2022, 04:57 PM
May 2022

They will lie, cheat and steal to get what they want, and we have documented examples of each.

Sure, there is an occasional Democratic politician who is a bad apple, but as a whole, our party wants what is best for the most people and to defend the right of the minority groups that can't vote in large enough numbers to affect change on their own. Unfortunately, by sticking to the rule of law and conventional 'gentlemen's agreements' we are getting trampled.

 

DanieRains

(4,619 posts)
38. Life In Prison For All The Criminals That Protected TFG While He Was Doing His Thousands Of Crimes
Fri May 6, 2022, 05:08 PM
May 2022

We are a nation of laws, or we are a banana republic.

If there is no law, I think I will go to the bank and make a huuuuuge withdrawl....

Oh wait.

The law applies to me, and not them.

JohnnyRingo

(20,866 posts)
40. Somebody please tell me what to Google to find out what this rant is about
Fri May 6, 2022, 05:22 PM
May 2022

I don't see anything on the front page that matches up with the direction taken here. This is what happens when I spend the whole day in a PET scan and dialysis.

No need to explain it, just give me a key phrase.

Haggis 4 Breakfast

(1,505 posts)
44. Mark Esper, former Secretary of Defense, has a book coming out.
Fri May 6, 2022, 06:06 PM
May 2022

It's titled (of all things) "Sacred Oath: Memoirs of a Secretary of Defense During Extraordinary Times"

In it he talks about having to tell trump on two occasions WHY he couldn't just fire missiles into Mexico to destroy drug labs, they deny the US had done it.

Also, that trump had wanted to know WHY cops couldn't just shoot protesters at Lafayette Square.

Among other things.

People are outraged that Esper failed to disclose any of this, but held out for a book deal (and mega $$$) instead of informing the American voting public that trump was this out of control.



childfreebychoice

(476 posts)
41. Prob is, millions would have, and will still vote for him, in spite of, and because of all that is
Fri May 6, 2022, 05:25 PM
May 2022

Being revealed. He is Jesus, parte deux, and can do no wrong

Evolve Dammit

(21,770 posts)
48. Fuck 'em all! Those are books worthy of burning. Cowards all. Concerned only about themselves.
Fri May 6, 2022, 08:06 PM
May 2022

Six117

(339 posts)
51. May I just add
Fri May 6, 2022, 08:48 PM
May 2022

These folks are not leaders.

They are, every one of them, the epitome of a bullshit artist. They know all the boxes to check, moves to make; and conniving steps to take to get where and what they want. That is all that has ever really mattered.

Not one of them is or deserves to be looked at as a leader. They have shown us exactly who they are.

Believe them.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
52. We can only be best betrayed by our heroes.
Fri May 6, 2022, 09:26 PM
May 2022

Tear down the pedestals. It's more important, denying the perch, than removing the statues.

Redleg

(6,916 posts)
54. I don't blame Miley
Fri May 6, 2022, 11:29 PM
May 2022

First, Miley did a lot of work behind the scenes to keep the Orange Shitgibbon from going farther than he did. As a serving soldier, Miley couldn't very well come out against Trump. Yes, he could have resigned but I think he stayed because he felt he had a duty to keep things from sliding completely out of control. Remember that Miley reminded the military that they have an oath to the Constitution and not the President. Miley was blindsided by Trump's move against the protesters at Lafayette Square and apologized for his part in it. Remember that Miley probably exceeded his own authority in telling the military that if Trump called for a nuclear strike that the military leaders needed to check with Miley first. I guess maybe we will one day find out Miley's role in all this, but I suspect he was trying to do the right thing under very difficult circumstances.

I believe the main issue should be with these self-serving pricks, some of whom you named, who saved their Trump stories for the publication of their own books.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
57. While I admire your passion, I think perhaps another possibility exists
Sat May 7, 2022, 01:23 AM
May 2022

When the Libertarian Tea Party was rolled into the Republican party, and then the Evangelicals, the latter brought with them the concept of Dominionism. The idea is that you spend years ensuring that you have people in every hierarchy capable of ensuring your plans succeed when the time comes. I suppose in novels they call them sleeper cells or some such, the Dominionists used simpler, less dramatic words. But their plan has been pretty much advancing as they planned at least 20 years ago when I first read their literature.

Trump, by the way, was just a tool to the Dominionists. But he was a convenient level to help them bring about a Christian nation.

How do their plans fit in with Putin's machinations & infiltrations & manipulations? I have no idea. But they don't seem to ever conflict with each other, which I find interesting.

NullTuples

(6,017 posts)
67. Most of the Christian Republicans in power are Dominionists. As are many scattered in the ranks.
Sat May 7, 2022, 02:46 PM
May 2022

But not just the ranks of the GOP; the ranks of government workers all the way from clerks up to Supreme Court Justices. And of course, law enforcement and the armed forces. That was their plan decades ago, and they've stayed pretty much on track.

Martin Eden

(15,619 posts)
60. They get praised for being a firewall against TFG's worst impulses
Sat May 7, 2022, 07:21 AM
May 2022

That they didn't raise FIRE ALARM instead was an abdication of civic responsibility.

We only learn these horrifying facts after they cash in with book sales.

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