Elon Musk's Tesla Motors to Fund Abortion Travel

[Igirl]

Tesla will pay travel costs for its employees seeking an abortion out of state if their current state doesn’t provide the service.

Let the continued Elon bashing continue.

https://www.benzinga.com/amp/content/27061672

[Voltaire2]

1. Musk is a rightwing libertarian shithead.

As soon as a state Tesla operates in criminalizes aiding and abetting an abortion, and they will do that, Tesla and other corporations will stop doing anything that could jeopardize their business.

[634-5789]

8. AMEN!

[Chautauquas]

12. +1

[Igirl]

14. We should bash him then over the future

That we are projecting….and making up stories…on what could or could not ever happen some time in the far future. Let’s hate him for future crimes uncommitted! Pitch forks to the front!

[Initech]

34. I wonder what his newly adopted home of Texas is going to think about this?

[Hoyt]

2. He will get no credit.

[USALiberal]

4. True!!!

[BannonsLiver]

58. Boo hoo.

[delisen]

3. How about a billion dollar donation from the billionaire,s personal stash nt

[USALiberal]

5. I knew someone would hate anything he did! Nt

[delisen]

6. A suggestion for personal charity is hardly a hate post.

I don’t think Elon Musk or any multi billionaire needs to protected from suggestions.

I do think the freedom and equality of millions of other Americans needs protection.

[delisen]

7. A suggestion for personal charity is hardly a hate post.

I don’t think Elon Musk or any multi billionaire needs to protected from suggestions.

I do think the freedom and equality of millions of other Americans needs protection.

[Phoenix61]

11. He's as self-serving as they come.

It’s much cheaper and easier for him to cover that then pay maternity leave. Considering he is in the process of moving his factory from California to Texas I can see why that would be a large concern for him. If I had teenage children, daughters especially, there’s not a snowballs chance in hell I’d take them to the hell hole Texas is well on its way to being. If he’d given it a moments thought he’d realize most of his employees aren’t going to be on-board for that.

[Igirl]

15. Calling Texas a hell hole over California

Is laughable.

[Phoenix61]

19. No idea what you are trying to say.

“If I had teenage children, daughters especially, there’s not a snowballs chance in hell I’d take them to the hell hole Texas is well on its way to being. “

[Igirl]

29. Then by all means do do something

To stop that massive influx of people moving from California here because they hate California. Democrats. My neighbors. Are driving our property values through the roof. Not all of us are so left that we want the government to control our entire lives. I’ve yet to meet a Californian who regrets leaving…..

[Phoenix61]

33. Kinda hard to meet someone who didn't move there. nt

[Igirl]

45. Huh???

[Phoenix61]

46. "I've yet to meet a Californian who regrets leaving....."

It would be hard for you to meet one who’s still in California because they’d rather be there.

[Igirl]

47. Naive or making a joke

California has been shedding population the last 2 years…they are are leaving the state. Texas is top 2 where they are coming. They are moving here…to Texas….on my street…across from my house and and a few doors down in each direction. It will hopefully change our voting demographics, but they don’t want another California.

[Phoenix61]

48. When they say they don't want another California

What do they mean? I’ve heard traffic is insane and housing is very expensive.

[Igirl]

49. Seriously go Google.

You have no idea comparing the two. Google “people moving from California to Texas” “ California population decrease”. “Where are people moving from California”. “ why are California’s moving to Texas “. Good lord.

[Igirl]

50. Seriously go Google.

If you really have no idea. Google “people moving from California to Texas” “ California population decrease”. “Where are people moving from California”. “ why are California’s moving to Texas “.

[Phoenix61]

51. I did but but I'm more interested in what

people who are living their now say. You said they were your neighbors and they have told you they don’t want another California. Google said companies were leaving because Texas has lower taxes and lots of people follow their job.

[Igirl]

53. Published today. Penske moving

Top moved to states.
People leave for companies but also the same reasons as companies. High taxes, high crime, high taxes, gridlock, homelessness….we can shut our eyes to this
3/10 are Texas including #1.

1 Houston
2 Las Vegas
3 Phoenix
4 Charlotte, North Carolina (which hasn’t ranked in the top 10 since 2017)
5 Denver
6 San Antonio
7 Dallas
8 Orlando, Florida
9 Austin, Texas
10 Chicago (which hasn’t ranked in the top 10 since 2015)

[634-5789]

9. 'Let the continued Elon bashing continue.'

OK. He's a libertarian jackass and I'll believe it when I see it.

[AntivaxHunters]

18. Props

[BannonsLiver]

57. Apparently because someone thinks he's "hot" we're all supposed to fall inline.

Hard pass on this Bond villain wannabe douche canoe.

[SunSeeker]

10. Headline is misleading. He is only doing it for his employees, which saves him money.

This bit of largesse obviously helps his bottom line. It costs a lot more to pay for an employee's child birth than her abortion.

When I read that headline, I thought it meant he set up an abortion travel fund for all women in the US, particularly poor ones who really need it. It you're working at Tesla in Texas, you can probably afford a plane ticket to California. Of course, if he hadn't moved his factory to Texas, his employees would still be in California.

[Igirl]

16. Are you kidding?

He’s doing this for his employees. One of only a few large companies announcing this action. Good for him. Your expectation is for him to fund the entire US😆.
Are you as an individual sponsoring anyone? Is gates sponsoring the world? Is Bezos or Buffet? Continue the bashing of musk.

[SunSeeker]

20. No, I'm not kidding. I donate every month to Planned Parenthood.

They help poor women. Musk could donate a few million (pocket change for him) to Planned Parenthood if he really wanted to help poor women. Rich women are not affected by anti-abortion laws.

[Igirl]

28. So do I.

And I fully support the changes for good that musk is bringing to this world. He’s actually doing things and his investments, and company are changing the world for the better.

[BannonsLiver]

59. Are you always so easily bamboozled?

[Irish_Dem]

13. Are female employees going to want to discuss this issue w/employers?

[AntivaxHunters]

17. He's a Libertarian & they believe in a woman's choice

He's making the correct decision here, one of the few when it comes to the rights of his workers.
I can't stand him. That said.....
This fight is going to make for some strange allies. And it will be on this issue (abortion), along with gay marriage & weed. I suppose you can toss the anti-war movement into that mix as well.

Buckle up folks. This is going to be quite the coalition we see formed from all walks of life, the likes of which has never been seen before!

[SunSeeker]

22. Ron Paul and his spawn Rand are both Libertarians and anti-choice. nt

[smirkymonkey]

60. How do they rationalize that?

WTF? No government interference, unless it has to do with YOUR uterus!

[SunSeeker]

61. Good question. They avoid discussing it, as far as I can tell.

They don't give a shit about women's health, they just want right wingers to keep donating to them.

[Ilsa]

23. I believe Musk is a Libertarian for

Musk. I am not convinced he's a Libertarian for everyone else.

That said, I'm glad he's offering to help those employees. I wonder if Tesla will get sued under Texas law for helping a woman get an abortion.

[In It to Win It]

30. That is the best way I've ever heard that said. I made that point in a post I did a couple weeks ago

Basically, the gist of my post was that it was hilarious watching conservatives cheer on Elon Musk as if he's their conservative savior (regarding Twitter) because I've never thought of Elon Musk as a right-wing conservative superhero, just as he's not anyone's liberal superhero. Elon Musk is for no one else but Elon Musk. Elon Musk is a libertarian because Elon Musk doesn't want to be restricted or regulated in any capacity by the government.

I think your statement "Musk is a libertarian for Musk" is the perfect summation of Elon Musk.

[former9thward]

35. The law has been in effect since September 2021.

Has anyone been sued?

[Ilsa]

41. Oct. 8, 2021:

https://www.nytimes.com/2021/09/20/us/texas-abortion-lawsuit-alan-braid.html

Lawsuits are filed against a Texas doctor who said he performed an abortion.

The suits, brought by men in Arkansas and Illinois, appear to be the first under a state law that bans most abortions after the six-week mark.

[former9thward]

43. I responded to that in #38.

Suits by a self described nut and no apparent action on them in 8 months. Does not sound serious to me.

[tinrobot]

21. The company that just moved from California to Texas?

Right.

[Ilsa]

24. He'll probably stop after the first lawsuit against him for helping a

woman get an abortion. That's the law in Texas: civil suits.

[uponit7771]

26. +1

[Arazi]

25. Can someone explain to me how this works?

The employee has to go to their boss? HR? Both? And ask for time off and money to get an abortion.

Will employees actually do this?

This seems like a grand gesture that wouldn’t necessarily be feasible.

And Tesla is now in TX. Suing Tesla for that sweet $10k bounty would be a no brainer for pro-life zealots

[uponit7771]

27. +1

[In It to Win It]

31. Good luck collecting that 10k bounty from Tesla

If anybody is thinking Tesla is going to be an easy $10K, it's gonna be the hardest $10k they've ever worked for in their lives.

[former9thward]

36. Who in Texas has been sued?

That law has been in effect about 9 months.

[Arazi]

37. Dr Alan Braid

https://www.forbes.com/sites/alisondurkee/2021/09/20/first-private-citizen-to-be-sued-under-texas-abortion-law-is-doctor-who-publicly-admitted-performing-abortion/amp/

[former9thward]

38. That article is almost 8 months old.

What was the result of the suit?

[Arazi]

39. I have no idea. You asked if anyone had been sued

[former9thward]

40. Thanks but the article indicates the suit was brought by a nut.

Someone describing themselves as a "disgraced and disbarred lawyer". If this is a serious problem I would think in a state the size of Texas there would have been more suits in a 9 month period. And we would have seen some court rulings.

[Arazi]

42. I spent 30 seconds googling an answer to your question

There may be more. I have no idea.

You asked. I answered.

Will there be more nutsos empowered by this latest ruling? I believe so.

Now maybe answer my question on how employees realistically tell their boss and/or HR they want time off and money for an out-of-state abortion? Will Tesla pay the clinic directly? Will they give money directly to the employee? How do they verify pregnancy? Will they require notification of their employees periods? Tesla only approved pregnancy tests?

What if the purported father of the zygote decides they should accompany the termination? Do they have rights to get time off? If not, why not?

I really want to know how this works in the real world. I’ve never been fortunate enough to work at a company that would pay for an out-of-state abortion that’s illegal in my own state.

[former9thward]

44. If you worked for Telsa you would have those answers.

Just asking the HR department.

[In It to Win It]

32. Imagine Musk announcing Twitter will pay for travel for employees seeking abortion care

for employees living in abortion-hostile states... Imagine all those tears from the same conservatives cheering on this Twitter buyout

[TeamProg]

52. "Let the continued Elon bashing continue. " AGREED !!! n/t

[Hekate]

54. How about he funds some Democratic pro-choice candidates?

Does a woman have to try to get a high-tech job with a billionaire to be afforded her human rights?

As for Elon, I understand Tesla is just a hotbed of civil rights and women’s rights support to work at.

[ibegurpard]

55. He enables those doing the cutting

His bandaid is meaningless.