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Jane Elliott explains origin of what it means: "to increase the domestic supply of infants" (Original Post) Pluvious May 2022 OP
Remember the Nazis' "Lebensborn" program? Ocelot II May 2022 #1
Romania once had a policy of forced births Pluvious May 2022 #6
This! +1000 paleotn May 2022 #10
Wow! Just posted about that in another thread. It's not coincidence that so many are struck by ... eppur_se_muova May 2022 #29
K&R! dchill May 2022 #2
So women are simply part of the means of production. Capital to produce for these industries. bucolic_frolic May 2022 #3
I think it was Naomi Goldberg who made that observation forever ago Hekate May 2022 #5
That statement is copied directly from a CDC report LeftInTX May 2022 #4
Most interesting discovery, thanks for sharing (nt) Pluvious May 2022 #7
Never heard whining about Roe until white babies for adoption Ilsa May 2022 #8
Retrumplican Groomers nt maxrandb May 2022 #9
Because sending undesirables to the death camps would be too obvious IronLionZion May 2022 #11
Russian babies for adoption - anyone remember ... FakeNoose May 2022 #12
A client of mine and her husband adopted a gorgeous infant from Siberia. phylny May 2022 #19
Well you can't really predict autism in many cases. LisaL May 2022 #25
Right, but they were assured. phylny May 2022 #27
They were assured? LisaL May 2022 #30
Yes. Exactly what I said - twice. phylny May 2022 #32
And now Russia is kidnapping Ukrainian babies for Russians to adopt. Crunchy Frog May 2022 #22
That's sickening to the core FakeNoose May 2022 #28
A woman put the kid on the plane with a note and send him back to Russia. LisaL May 2022 #26
So if women who cannot have abortions give up chidren for adoption milestogo May 2022 #13
And in the south babies born from drug addicted baby-momas or drug addicted baby-daddies. LiberalArkie May 2022 #17
Good point. milestogo May 2022 #18
An interesting factoid a 23 year old neighbor told me is that the baby-daddy does not want the LiberalArkie May 2022 #21
K&R Thanks for posting. n/t TeamProg May 2022 #14
1+ keithbvadu2 May 2022 #15
"forced birthers" "rapist rights" . These are the terms we need to use JI7 May 2022 #16
More white babies does not mean more Repukes for their game. txwhitedove May 2022 #20
60 percent of the fetus' aborted are white? No longer the case. patphil May 2022 #23
The dream white baby that is in demand comes from milestogo May 2022 #24
K&R betsuni May 2022 #31

Ocelot II

(115,879 posts)
1. Remember the Nazis' "Lebensborn" program?
Sat May 7, 2022, 02:54 PM
May 2022
Lebensborn (literally: "Fount of Life" ) was an SS-initiated, state-supported, registered association in Nazi Germany with the goal of raising the birth rate of Aryan children of people classified as "racially pure" and "healthy" based on Nazi racial hygiene and health ideology. Lebensborn was established by Heinrich Himmler, and provided welfare to its mostly unmarried mothers, encouraged anonymous births by unmarried women at their maternity homes, and mediated adoption of these children by likewise "racially pure" and "healthy" parents, particularly SS members and their families. The Cross of Honour of the German Mother was given to the women who bore the most Aryan children. Abortion was legalised (and, more commonly, endorsed) by the Nazis for disabled and non-Germanic children, but strictly punished otherwise.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lebensborn

"Domestic supply of infants," you say?

Pluvious

(4,326 posts)
6. Romania once had a policy of forced births
Sat May 7, 2022, 03:50 PM
May 2022

It was a contributor to a higher crime rate, as America had prior to the advent of The Pill

eppur_se_muova

(36,301 posts)
29. Wow! Just posted about that in another thread. It's not coincidence that so many are struck by ...
Sat May 7, 2022, 11:12 PM
May 2022

the parallels between modern Uglican thinking and Nazi policies.

LeftInTX

(25,595 posts)
4. That statement is copied directly from a CDC report
Sat May 7, 2022, 03:28 PM
May 2022

The report does not mention abortion or even contraception.

https://stacks.cdc.gov/view/cdc/7033

Relinquishment of infants at birth is
extremely rare. Only 1% of children
born in the United States in
1996–2002 to women 18–44 years
of age as of 2002 were relinquished
for adoption within their first month
of life
On Page 16

whereas the
domestic supply of infants relinquished
at birth or within the first month of life
and available to be adopted had become
virtually nonexistent


Ilsa

(61,700 posts)
8. Never heard whining about Roe until white babies for adoption
Sat May 7, 2022, 03:53 PM
May 2022

became scarce. Then, Roe v Wade became an issue for infertile white couples seeking to adopt.

IronLionZion

(45,547 posts)
11. Because sending undesirables to the death camps would be too obvious
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:22 PM
May 2022

Birtherism isn't working out so well these days considering the diversity and representation at the highest levels of government.

FakeNoose

(32,791 posts)
12. Russian babies for adoption - anyone remember ...
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:39 PM
May 2022

I can't remember the exact year but it must have been around 2000 (?) Putin had been President for only a short time. After several high-profile cases of Americans adopting Russian newborns, Putin put a stop to it. He said "Nyet. No more Russian babies can be adopted by Americans."

There were a few cases where the American parents found out their adopted babies had genealogical problems (inherited bad genes) and the adoptive parents weren't told. So they RETURNED the babies to the Russian adoption agency!

Does anyone remember that?

phylny

(8,390 posts)
19. A client of mine and her husband adopted a gorgeous infant from Siberia.
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:55 PM
May 2022

She did not want to adopt a baby from China or Korea because the child wouldn't look like them and she was unsure if she could bond with such a baby. They were "assured" at the age of 5 months that the boy had no problems. Well, he did. Later diagnosed with autism.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
25. Well you can't really predict autism in many cases.
Sat May 7, 2022, 06:58 PM
May 2022

At five months there would be no signs of autism yet, most likely. So the adoptive agency would have no way of knowing the child was going to be autistic.

phylny

(8,390 posts)
27. Right, but they were assured.
Sat May 7, 2022, 07:21 PM
May 2022

That’s my point. No assurance that any infant won’t be autistic.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
30. They were assured?
Sat May 7, 2022, 11:13 PM
May 2022

Did they really thing something like this could be assured? They are very gullible if so. We don't even really know what causes autism. And at five months it would be too early to figure out if the kid was going to be autistic.

phylny

(8,390 posts)
32. Yes. Exactly what I said - twice.
Sun May 8, 2022, 06:02 AM
May 2022

Of course they were gullible. They heard what they wanted to hear.

LisaL

(44,974 posts)
26. A woman put the kid on the plane with a note and send him back to Russia.
Sat May 7, 2022, 06:59 PM
May 2022

I guess that is what you are remembering.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
13. So if women who cannot have abortions give up chidren for adoption
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:44 PM
May 2022

some of those will be the result of rape or incest.

Some will be mixed race or babies of color.

I imagine there will be genetic testing involved.

If the "demand" is coming from white couples who want a white baby, it does not seem like prohibiting abortion really provides the solution.

LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
17. And in the south babies born from drug addicted baby-momas or drug addicted baby-daddies.
Sat May 7, 2022, 04:49 PM
May 2022

A dad being on drugs also genetically affects the baby.

LiberalArkie

(15,730 posts)
21. An interesting factoid a 23 year old neighbor told me is that the baby-daddy does not want the
Sat May 7, 2022, 05:05 PM
May 2022

girl to abort. In some rational in their brain, having a baby makes them appear straight. It seems that guys and gals in that age group are pretty "gender fluid". They are "Straight" as hell. They prefer a woman, but if only guys are around, that is a different matter. entirely. I get a bad headache around them.

patphil

(6,225 posts)
23. 60 percent of the fetus' aborted are white? No longer the case.
Sat May 7, 2022, 05:12 PM
May 2022

There was a time when that was true, but both the total number of abortions, and the percentage of white babies being aborted has been dropping.
Abortions reached a peak in 1990, but that number is down to about half of that peak.
At that time, about 50% of the abortions were white.
Now the percentage of all abortions is only about 30% white.

https://www.johnstonsarchive.net/policy/abortion/usa_abortion_by_race.html

What has happened is that the percentage of all live births by race has shown a strong drop in white babies. It was above 50% in 2017, the last year for data in this report, but still falling.
The real worry that white supremacists have is that the percentage of live births for white babies will soon fall under 50%.
This is not because of abortions. It's because white families are choosing to have fewer children.

The real fact about abortion is that if it is illegal, middle and upper class white women will still find ways to have an abortion, but the poor non-white women will be forced to give birth.
So, the percentage of all abortions done by white women will increase as the total number of abortions goes down.
Essentially white supremacists are hastening their own demise as far as controlling local, state, and federal governments.

I'm not advocating for an end to abortion, but there is an unintended consequence in this that white supremacists aren't seeing.
And that is that the white race will loose their majority by population sooner than they think.

milestogo

(16,829 posts)
24. The dream white baby that is in demand comes from
Sat May 7, 2022, 06:53 PM
May 2022

- two healthy, happy Catholic teenagers in love
- white/European descent
- non drug users non smokers non drinkers
- top of their hs graduating class, gifted
- on their way or already at Ivy League schools
- child is genetically flawless

But even if this child exists, he is not available for adoption because he / she is being raised by a relative.

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