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LetMyPeopleVote

(182,066 posts)
Mon May 9, 2022, 04:38 PM May 2022

Gov. Abbott wants to ban unauthorized immigrants from Texas schools

This is wrong. this is another dumb stunt by Greg to try to win.



https://www.houstonchronicle.com/politics/texas/article/Gov-Greg-Abbott-eying-lawsuit-to-end-public-17150729.php?utm_source=twitter.com&utm_medium=referral&utm_campaign=socialflow

Gov. Greg Abbott wants to try to reinstate a 1975 Texas law withholding state funds from school districts for kids who were not “legally admitted” into the United States.....

“The challenges put on our public systems is extraordinary,” Abbott said, before referencing Plyler v. Doe, the ruling that overturned the Texas law. “I think that we will resurrect that case and challenge this issue again because the expenses are extraordinary and the times are different than when Plyler v. Doe was issued many years ago.”

In that case, the court ruled that “education has a fundamental role in maintaining the fabric of our society,” and withholding it from the children of immigrants in the country without paperwork “does not comport with fundamental conceptions of justice.” People living without documentation in the country remain people “in any ordinary sense of the term" and are thus entitled to the same basic rights as anyone else in the country.....

“Greg Abbott has once more distinguished himself as one of our most irresponsible and desperate politicians,” Thomas A. Saenz, president and general counsel of MALDEF, said in a statement. The Plyler decision, he said, is firmly established by the court and has also been endorsed by Congress.

This is yet another stunt by Greg
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Gov. Abbott wants to ban unauthorized immigrants from Texas schools (Original Post) LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 OP
can he do that? Tickle May 2022 #1
What does state law or the state constitution say about education? In It to Win It May 2022 #2
What's next Greg? Maine Abu El Banat May 2022 #3
Crack down on those 6 year olds! world wide wally May 2022 #4
Does this include the "White" ones? . .. Lovie777 May 2022 #5
Christofascist pig wants people ignorant and easier to control. Thomas Hurt May 2022 #6
So, just let them roam the streets? Diamond_Dog May 2022 #7
No. Not "Unauthorized Immigrants", CHILDREN. He wants to BAN CHILDREN... Caliman73 May 2022 #8
Texas Gov. Greg Abbott wants to 'challenge' free public education to children of undocumented immigr LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #9
If he gets away Tickle May 2022 #10
There is a pattern here LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #11
Too expensive? Imagine all the extra children you'll be getting in 10 yr without abortion NickB79 May 2022 #12
CRUEL: Greg Abbott's new attack on immigrant children is a new low LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #13
"In Texas, you see Greg Abbott trying to mimic Donald Trump's behavior," LetMyPeopleVote May 2022 #14

Caliman73

(11,767 posts)
8. No. Not "Unauthorized Immigrants", CHILDREN. He wants to BAN CHILDREN...
Mon May 9, 2022, 05:37 PM
May 2022

from receiving an education.

Children don't just decide to leave EVERYTHING they know to come to the US for shits and giggles. Their parents bring them or send them because life has become intolerable where they live. They come to the US for safety and a chance at life.

Abbott wants to DENY EDUCATION to CHILDREN, just because they are not rich enough to immigrate through the long and tedious process that would mean their death at home.

Abbott is evil.

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,066 posts)
9. Texas Gov. Greg Abbott wants to 'challenge' free public education to children of undocumented immigr
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:27 AM
May 2022

This is a very dumb concept even coming from Greg



https://www.businessinsider.com/texas-greg-abbott-immigration-children-education-2022-5

Texas Gov. Greg Abbott said he thinks his state will "resurrect" and "challenge" a 40-year-old Supreme Court decision requiring states to offer free public education to all children, including undocumented immigrants, the Austin American-Statesman first reported.

The Supreme Court case in question, Plyler v. Doe, was brought to the court after Texas passed a law prohibiting the state from using public funds to educate children who came into the country illegally. The Supreme Court ruled in a 5-4 decision in 1982 that the state's actions violated the 14th Amendment's "Equal Protection Clause" and struck down Texas' law.

Abbott's comments came during a right-wing radio talk show, The Joe Pags Show, after the host complained about the "burden on communities" that he argued immigrants create.

"The challenges put on our public systems is extraordinary," Abbott replied. "Texas already long ago sued the federal government about having to incur the costs of the education program, in a case called Plyler v. Doe. And the Supreme Court ruled against us on the issue about denying, or let's say Texas having to bear that burden."

Greg does not have a Disney to attack and so is attacking migrant children This is a disgusting stunt even for an asshole like Greg
 

Tickle

(4,131 posts)
10. If he gets away
Tue May 10, 2022, 06:59 AM
May 2022

with this other red states will follow and then what would happen to the undocumented? Will they leave for blue states?

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,066 posts)
11. There is a pattern here
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:01 PM
May 2022

I still have a land line in addition to my cell phone and so I get polled from time to time. I was polled a couple of months back on school vouchers. This was a GOP poll trying to measure support for school vouchers and the gutting Texas public education. .

I see now that Greg wants to destroy public education and give vouchers to children attending private schools.




https://www.texastribune.org/2022/05/10/abbott-public-education-vouchers-school-choice/?utm_campaign=trib-social&utm_content=1652194547&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter

Gov. Greg Abbott on Monday voiced support for a school voucher plan, offering his clearest embrace in recent memory of letting parents use taxpayers dollars to send their kids to non-public schools.

“We can fully fund public schools while also giving parents a choice about which school is right for their child,” Abbott said during a campaign event in San Antonio. “Empowering parents means giving them the choice to send their children to any public school, charter school or private school with state funding following the student.”

Abbott has long been a supporter of the broad concept of “school choice,” but his focus on it has ebbed and flowed throughout his governorship. His commitment to the cause was thrown into question by a recent string of endorsements in Texas House primary runoffs where he backed Republicans opposed by school-choice proponents, including U.S. Sen. Ted Cruz.

Critics of vouchers say they hurt public schools, an argument that Abbott’s Democratic challenger, Beto O’Rourke, quickly made after the governor’s remarks.

“Abbott is for defunding our public schools,” O’Rourke tweeted. “I'm for fully funding our kids’ classrooms and fully supporting parents, teachers, and students.”

Greg is out to destroy public education n Texas and this is just the lates tool

NickB79

(20,405 posts)
12. Too expensive? Imagine all the extra children you'll be getting in 10 yr without abortion
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:19 PM
May 2022

Texas had 55,0000 abortions last year alone. In 10 years, that's over 300,000 more children in preschool and elementary.

And these kids will overwhelmingly be coming from poor, struggling households, meaning they'll require MORE funding to educate.

LetMyPeopleVote

(182,066 posts)
13. CRUEL: Greg Abbott's new attack on immigrant children is a new low
Wed May 11, 2022, 01:15 AM
May 2022

Greg is being cruel for the sake of being cruel. This is the best way for Greg to try to be crueller than DeathSantis



https://occupydemocrats.com/2022/05/10/cruel-greg-abbotts-new-attack-on-immigrant-children-is-a-new-low-1/

After fifty years of access to safe and legal abortions, the Supreme Court seems poised to strike down Roe v. Wade, in a major blow to reproductive rights for millions of Americans. Republicans don’t plan to stop there, however. In an incredibly reprehensible and disgustingly cruel move, Texas GOP Governor Greg Abbott is claiming he will challenge a 1982 ruling that required free public education for all children in the United States regardless of immigration status.


.....I often wonder how people like Greg Abbott reconcile the loving teachings of Jesus Christ with their hateful worldview. Does anyone believe that Jesus Christ would approve of denying children an education because of their immigration status? How anyone goes to sleep at night while working to do that is beyond me.

Abbott claims that education “expenses” are too great for the state of Texas to bear when it comes to undocumented children and that denying them an education will serve as a deterrent. First of all, no it won’t, deterrence tactics to curtail immigration have never and will never work. Second, it is revealing that Republicans consistently refer to education as an expense as opposed to an investment. Educating children and giving them an opportunity to get ahead in life while contributing back to our society is not just the right thing, to do, it’s the smart thing to do in terms of building a diverse and reliable workforce, and people like Greg Abbott are too stupid to see that.

While Abbott might claim that this is about fiscal concerns, his record shows that he doesn’t care about spending a whole lot of government money when it serves his political agenda. Texas has spent billions of dollars on Abbott’s idiotic antics serving as red meat to his Republican voting base, like the Operation Lone Star stunt, which forced thousands of soldiers to the southern border to do nothing and cost taxpayers $2 billion a year. He implemented a now rescinded policy that forced commercial vehicles to undergo redundant inspections that turned up nothing and resulted in $4 billion in losses to the Texas economy.

Republicans like Greg Abbott don’t really care about Christianity, fiscal responsibility, small government, or any sort of coherent ideology. They only care about themselves and their own political gain. They have nothing to offer the public in terms of an actual political agenda that will better their lives or material conditions, so they demagogue and try to pit working-class communities against each other. They will stoop so low as to try and deny children an education. When you think they can’t go lower, they find a way.

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