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Nevilledog

(55,079 posts)
Tue May 10, 2022, 11:51 AM May 2022

Stop With the Pearl-Clutching Over Protests at Supreme Court Justices' Homes



Tweet text:
The Daily Beast
@thedailybeast
"Of course it’s appropriate for people to peacefully protest on public property outside of the homes of people imminently poised to take the rights away from millions of their own fellow citizens," writes @morninggloria.

thedailybeast.com
Stop With the Pearl-Clutching Over Protests at Supreme Court Justices’ Homes
Peaceful protests in public spaces outside SCOTUS justices’ homes are legal, ethically justifiable, and necessary.
10:31 PM · May 9, 2022


https://www.thedailybeast.com/stop-with-the-pearl-clutching-over-protests-at-supreme-court-justices-homes?via=twitter_page

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https://archive.ph/oCuYz

*snip*

If the Supreme Court overturns Roe v. Wade and abortion is immediately illegal for half of all Americans who might need it, women will die. And the women who will suffer the most are those who are already on the precipice—the poor, the Black and brown, the young, the abused.

The sidewalks adjacent to a powerful person’s property are not more sacred than 73 million women’s bodies. And yet, from the way some voices have responded to protests outside of SCOTUS homes, you’d swear the real victim here was Brett Kavanaugh.

Fox News spent years in the bootlicking service of Donald Trump—who once told a crowd of police officers that they should be rougher with suspects as they arrest them; who routinely called for violence against the press; and whose Big Lie about election fraud led to ordinary election officials being harassed at their homes by MAGA mobs calling for their blood. This is the same Fox News that has routinely minimized the violence of January 6, 2021 as “tourism.”

But now that peaceful protests are targeting the public streets and sidewalks outside Supreme Court justices’ houses, Fox News is very worried about the safety implications!

But the liberals! They’re cheering! Stop the presses—today’s a day when conservatives aren’t getting mad about Mr. Potato Head’s gender identity, the green M&M making them less horny, Disney turning the kids gay, and Harry Styles wearing a dress. No, today’s when conservatives are angry that those cheering-ass liberals are standing on residential sidewalks exercising a constitutionally guaranteed right at a match-point moment.

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Stop With the Pearl-Clutching Over Protests at Supreme Court Justices' Homes (Original Post) Nevilledog May 2022 OP
MAGATS have been groomed to be victims. LakeArenal May 2022 #1
THIS ALL DAY LONG THIS!!! onecaliberal May 2022 #2
Unless they start shooting into the homes or burning them down, I don't care... Moostache May 2022 #3
+1. dalton99a May 2022 #20
K&R DLevine May 2022 #4
The Senate BigMin28 May 2022 #5
I sure wish my uterus had security. Novara May 2022 #7
Pressure must be put on Pelosi and the House to stall this from becoming law. Here's an in2herbs May 2022 #13
The Senate vote gives Supreme Court families the same protection given members of Congress families onenote May 2022 #25
Let it go to the House, to DIE. DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #41
Liberals and even centrist Dems have had to endure this shit for YEARS. eppur_se_muova May 2022 #6
Except of course, the right wing protestors weren't peaceably assembled SoonerPride May 2022 #8
Yup. Everyone remember the outrage and protestations from the right over... thenelm1 May 2022 #16
I don't like the protest tactic... TheRealNorth May 2022 #9
Pls don't equate violent, right wing protesters with... brush May 2022 #12
Correction inthewind21 May 2022 #15
No No NO NOT the SAME! Those protests were violent and threatened people lives. Domestic Terrorism. Tommymac May 2022 #31
Its not even a matter of whether they are similar TheRealNorth May 2022 #40
K&R Solly Mack May 2022 #10
I have no problem with this at all! MenloParque May 2022 #11
exactly llashram May 2022 #14
Probably unpopular DashOneBravo May 2022 #17
Please remember we have just come through a long period where antivaxxers were protesting at health ZonkerHarris May 2022 #18
Women are supposed to give up bodily autonomy and First Amendment rights Nevilledog May 2022 #21
Silence is consent. dalton99a May 2022 #19
Or as the AIDS activists promoted BumRushDaShow May 2022 #24
And, silence is complicit. imho Magoo48 May 2022 #33
Protests happen outside of Pelosi's house in San Francisco all the time BumRushDaShow May 2022 #22
The Court is on record about protests on sidewalks gratuitous May 2022 #23
Violent right-wing protests in 2020-2021: dalton99a May 2022 #26
Thanks. Very informative. nt Tommymac May 2022 #32
Excellent! Thanks for spotting that BumRushDaShow May 2022 #34
THIS !!!! ☝🏾☝🏾☝🏾 ... facts matter uponit7771 May 2022 #36
Would you please post this as its own OP for greater visibility, and recs? niyad May 2022 #38
Susan Collins called the police TNNurse May 2022 #27
Idiots in trucks Traildogbob May 2022 #28
Imposing their morality on the nation is a violation of public trust because bucolic_frolic May 2022 #29
And then there is this ... aggiesal May 2022 #30
K&R WhiskeyGrinder May 2022 #35
The concept of left-wing pacifism is a hangover from the anti-Vietnam war protest era. jaxexpat May 2022 #37
KNR niyad May 2022 #39

Moostache

(11,178 posts)
3. Unless they start shooting into the homes or burning them down, I don't care...
Tue May 10, 2022, 11:55 AM
May 2022

Scream all they want.
Protest, bang drums, shine lights, walk in circles around the block or properties...

Hell, start camp fires and sing songs all night long denigrating the court...it's not like the court does not deserve ridicule and discomfort for their radical (and wholly illegitimate) agenda and plans.

I am willing to bet that if these snowflake justices resigned, that no one would follow them to another address, so there is a pretty clear "out" for them unless they are being held under seige and not allowed to leave. Short of THAT? Fuck 'em...too hot? Leave the kitchen or stop setting fires or BOTH...

BigMin28

(1,859 posts)
5. The Senate
Tue May 10, 2022, 11:59 AM
May 2022

Just voted to increase the security for the Supreme Court Justices.
Apparently, some people matter more than others. Their comfort must not be disturbed, nor shall their authority be questioned.

in2herbs

(4,389 posts)
13. Pressure must be put on Pelosi and the House to stall this from becoming law. Here's an
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:41 PM
May 2022

idea: do what McConnell does and hold it in abeyance.

I am against this added security but if this proposed law which affords these mo**frs added security the same as Art I and ArtII appointees but does not require that the USSC comply with the Ethics and HR requirements that Art I and Art II mandates then let the USSC drift in the wind.

Question: if the law is passed and USSC justices accept the additional security does that mean that they have given up their "independence" and are now considered "at-will employees" just like Art I and Art II appointees?

onenote

(46,140 posts)
25. The Senate vote gives Supreme Court families the same protection given members of Congress families
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:22 PM
May 2022

since 1946.

So, by that standard, yes, some people "matter" more than others. In addition to members of Congress, the family of the President and VP get protection. Visiting heads of state and their families get protection. The Secretary of State, the Deputy Secretary of State and their families get protection.



 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
41. Let it go to the House, to DIE.
Wed May 11, 2022, 09:21 AM
May 2022

If they want more security, they can pay for it themselves.

eppur_se_muova

(41,939 posts)
6. Liberals and even centrist Dems have had to endure this shit for YEARS.
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:00 PM
May 2022

About time the Rabid Right got a taste of its own poison.

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
8. Except of course, the right wing protestors weren't peaceably assembled
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:08 PM
May 2022

There were death threats and acts of violence from right wingers.

thenelm1

(912 posts)
16. Yup. Everyone remember the outrage and protestations from the right over...
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:04 PM
May 2022

the death threats, the menacing, the harassment or confrontations with or to health workers and health officials during the pandemic, or the same to election officials and poll workers during and after the 2020 election? Or even now with the ongoing threats and harassment of school boards or any other person(s) who the right can accuse of being "pedos", "woke", "groomers" or other batshit crazy nonsense?

I didn't think so.

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
9. I don't like the protest tactic...
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:13 PM
May 2022

But anti-abortion protestors did this to doctors for years. And let's not forget the election workers and public health officials the Red Hats have been terrorizing for the past couple of years.

 

brush

(61,033 posts)
12. Pls don't equate violent, right wing protesters with...
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:26 PM
May 2022

peaceful marches against anti-abortion justices. Not the same thing.

Tommymac

(7,334 posts)
31. No No NO NOT the SAME! Those protests were violent and threatened people lives. Domestic Terrorism.
Tue May 10, 2022, 02:39 PM
May 2022

Bombs, actual murders, arson and violence. The 1996 Atlanta Olympic Bombing is a prime example.

You CANNOT compare today's PEACEFUL protests with those earlier VIOLENT acts by anti-abortion christofascist terrorists.

TheRealNorth

(9,647 posts)
40. Its not even a matter of whether they are similar
Tue May 10, 2022, 08:21 PM
May 2022

Just based on my experience, the tactic is considered extreme by some.

Never mind that Republicans often show up with guns and have a history of violence. Even some Democrats are unaware of the history anti-abortion groups protesting at the homes of doctors that performed abortions.

MenloParque

(566 posts)
11. I have no problem with this at all!
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:21 PM
May 2022

It’s high time for all public servants to understand that you work for us!! The government should fear the people because the people have the right to fight against fucking tyranny! So yeah you fuck with Americans lives guess what’s next! So carry on y’all!!

llashram

(6,269 posts)
14. exactly
Tue May 10, 2022, 12:50 PM
May 2022

non-violent protests are a right. To hell with the "pearl clutchers". They keep clutching and the strand will break. They will be on their hands and knees looking for their lost pearls along with the oh so annoyed SC Justices. Didn't the SC ah+++++ understand there is a consequence for hate?

DashOneBravo

(2,679 posts)
17. Probably unpopular
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:04 PM
May 2022

But I think the home address were posted as a way of intimidating them.

Remember when the crazy guy shot up the republicans baseball practice?

 

ZonkerHarris

(25,577 posts)
18. Please remember we have just come through a long period where antivaxxers were protesting at health
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:09 PM
May 2022

commissioners (and others) houses and threatening violence against them.

We are just protesting with no violence but it's so much worse right?

BumRushDaShow

(169,746 posts)
24. Or as the AIDS activists promoted
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:18 PM
May 2022


And that's literally what is going to happen here when Roe is overturned.

BumRushDaShow

(169,746 posts)
22. Protests happen outside of Pelosi's house in San Francisco all the time
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:16 PM
May 2022


(this was after the complaints about the business shutdowns that had just been lifted when she had her hair salon visit)

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
23. The Court is on record about protests on sidewalks
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:18 PM
May 2022

Of course, that was when the shitheels harassing women going into medical clinics (for any reason) were screaming at them through bullhorns, and clinic workers had to have armed escorts to go to work. For those demonstrations, the Court said it 100% okey-dokey for citizens to do as they pleased. But I guess medical clinics don't need a peaceful neighborhood to operate the way certain citizens' private residences need peace and quiet.

BumRushDaShow

(169,746 posts)
34. Excellent! Thanks for spotting that
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:19 PM
May 2022

Here is a link to their analysis - https://graphics.reuters.com/USA-CAPITOL/SECURITY/xegpbxoadpq/

For the data watchers, they used this site for some of their data - https://acleddata.com/research-hub-united-states/

And THAT site just issued a report a week ago -

Far-Right Violence and the American Midterm Elections:

Early Warning Signs to Monitor Ahead of the Vote

3 May 2022



Executive Summary

A narrow focus on aggregate trends in political violence can obscure important new patterns and warning signs. While the total number of political violence events in the United States declined in 2021 after far-right groups stormed the Capitol at the start of the year, trends since then reflect an ongoing evolution in anti-democratic mobilization on the right — not the aftermath of its high-water mark. Many of the same far-right groups and networks involved in the Capitol attack have adapted their activity to fit the new environment. These adaptations have manifested in multiple ways: the landscape of actors has become more defined; demonstration engagement has shifted, with a focus on protests that allow for the co-option of new supporters; some actors, like the Proud Boys, have increased their use of violence; armed protests have proliferated, particularly at legislative facilities; contentious counter-demonstration trends have intensified; offline propaganda and vigilantism is on the rise, especially motivated by white supremacy and white nationalism; and preparatory actions have surged, including recruitment drives and training exercises.

ACLED data indicate that political violence in the United States, and specifically violence involving far-right militias and militant social movements, typically manifests in peaks and lulls. Against this backdrop, the recent decline in aggregate events should not be taken as a sign that the threat of violence has abated. On the contrary, current trends indicate that it may only represent a relative calm before the next storm.

The United States faces many latent risks, and a wide range of factors that can contribute to and elevate these risks — from the ascendance of extremist protest drivers like white supremacy and white nationalism, to the increased rate of armed demonstrations at statehouses, to a rise in militia training and recruitment campaigns — are intensifying. Monitoring these factors, and these groups, will be critical for detecting emerging threats, particularly in the lead-up to potential flashpoint events, such as this year’s midterm elections.

(snip)

More: https://acleddata.com/2022/05/03/far-right-violence-and-the-midterm-elections-early-warning-signs-to-monitor-ahead-of-the-vote/

TNNurse

(7,541 posts)
27. Susan Collins called the police
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:39 PM
May 2022

over a totally non-threatening comment in SIDEWALK CHALK in front of her house. Should she be charged with a false call to the police?? No threat, no actual damage, what a self-righteous bitch.

Traildogbob

(13,018 posts)
28. Idiots in trucks
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:41 PM
May 2022

Running through neighborhoods blasting horns, creating massive traffic jams nation wide. Protesting to overthrow elections. Ring a bell.

bucolic_frolic

(55,133 posts)
29. Imposing their morality on the nation is a violation of public trust because
Tue May 10, 2022, 02:00 PM
May 2022

it is NOT what they testified to in their confirmation hearings. They have violated the social contract.

aggiesal

(10,803 posts)
30. And then there is this ...
Tue May 10, 2022, 02:24 PM
May 2022

When discussing the propriety of protesting outside of supreme court justices' homes, it's important to remember that in the 90s the court held that protesting outside of the homes of **abortion clinic employees** is protected by the first amendment

This should be displayed everywhere someone is protesting a judges home.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
37. The concept of left-wing pacifism is a hangover from the anti-Vietnam war protest era.
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:54 PM
May 2022

Unwad your panties people. It's not LBJ burning villages. It's the deputy sheriff searching in your daughter's, wife's, sister's, mother's underwear drawer. They started this fight, this war from which they must not be given quarter. Justice must prevail. Everything else is unimportant.

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