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Intercepted call: Russian soldier says dead soldiers reported as "missing" & bodies dumped in piles (Original Post) highplainsdem May 2022 OP
2 meters is 6 1/2' tall Botany May 2022 #1
Not now. Maybe not ever. maxsolomon May 2022 #4
Saddam was our best friend when we were selling rainy May 2022 #8
Be that as it may, that's not my point. maxsolomon May 2022 #10
That statement seems quite antihistorical on account of the following facts... xocetaceans May 2022 #11
By W. Clark rainy May 2022 #12
Putin sent a rolling crematory to Ukraine along with soldiers and materiele FakeNoose May 2022 #2
That's because Russia pays combat deaths around $132K USD. The Moskolov was an accident. TheBlackAdder May 2022 #5
Hopefully the word is spread over there. LiberalFighter May 2022 #9
This message was self-deleted by its author Chin music May 2022 #7
Sadly, the Russian people have a history of making terrible sacrifices Victor_c3 May 2022 #3
One hopes they;ve at least gone through the pockets to ID the ones they can Warpy May 2022 #6

Botany

(77,586 posts)
1. 2 meters is 6 1/2' tall
Tue May 10, 2022, 01:58 PM
May 2022

When will Russia turn on Putin? He has become the richest man in the world by stealing
from the Russian people and he is behind God only knows the # of dead man, women, and
children.

maxsolomon

(38,941 posts)
4. Not now. Maybe not ever.
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:00 PM
May 2022

It is hard to overthrow a despot, especially one as thorough and canny as Putin.

Look how long Saddam Hussein held Iraq. would he have been overthrown if America hadn't done it?

rainy

(6,322 posts)
8. Saddam was our best friend when we were selling
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:48 PM
May 2022

him weapons. He became our enemy when he decided to trade oil in euros and not dollars.

maxsolomon

(38,941 posts)
10. Be that as it may, that's not my point.
Tue May 10, 2022, 04:12 PM
May 2022

He was not removed by an internal revolution. Unlikely Putin would be overthrown, even from within.

xocetaceans

(4,442 posts)
11. That statement seems quite antihistorical on account of the following facts...
Tue May 10, 2022, 04:14 PM
May 2022

Iraq invaded Kuwait in 1990:

1990: Iraq invades Kuwait

More than 100,000 Iraqi soldiers backed up by 700 tanks invaded the Gulf state of Kuwait in the early hours of this morning.

...

(http://news.bbc.co.uk/onthisday/hi/dates/stories/august/2/newsid_2526000/2526937.stm)


The Euro was introduced as noted below - almost a decade later - in 1999:

From Maastricht to the euro and the euro area, 1991 to 2002

...

After a decade of preparations, the euro was launched on 1 January 1999: for the first three years it was an ‘invisible’ currency, only used for accounting purposes and electronic payments. Coins and banknotes were launched on 1 January 2002, and in 12 EU countries the biggest cash changeover in history took place.

(https://european-union.europa.eu/institutions-law-budget/euro/history-and-purpose_en)


It is very difficult to claim that Hussein was not considered an enemy after August 2, 1990. Iraq was not invaded, though, at that time for other reasons.

Anyway, if my statement is incorrect, please show me why it is so.

rainy

(6,322 posts)
12. By W. Clark
Tue May 10, 2022, 05:05 PM
May 2022
https://www.cse.unsw.edu.au/~norman/CurrentAffairs/DeeperNew.html

The Real Reasons for the Upcoming War With Iraq

A Macroeconomic and Geostrategic Analysis of the Unspoken Truth

by W. Clark
January 2003
Independent Media Center
www.indymedia.org

SUMMARY
Although completely suppressed in the U.S. media, the answer to the Iraq enigma is simple yet shocking -- it is an oil currency war. The real reason for this upcoming war is this administration's goal of preventing further Organization of the Petroleum Exporting Countries (OPEC) momentum towards the euro as an oil transaction currency standard.

FakeNoose

(41,989 posts)
2. Putin sent a rolling crematory to Ukraine along with soldiers and materiele
Tue May 10, 2022, 02:35 PM
May 2022

Wasn't this the obvious plan all along? He never intended to notify their next of kin when his soldiers died in battle.
Missing soldiers are dead soldiers. Putin is a monster of the worst sort.

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
5. That's because Russia pays combat deaths around $132K USD. The Moskolov was an accident.
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:12 PM
May 2022

Last edited Tue May 10, 2022, 04:06 PM - Edit history (1)

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Sailor families have been trying to collect death benefits and told that the 'accident' happened in international waters outside of a combat area, and the sailors are either dead or missing so they get no money.

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Response to FakeNoose (Reply #2)

Victor_c3

(3,557 posts)
3. Sadly, the Russian people have a history of making terrible sacrifices
Tue May 10, 2022, 02:56 PM
May 2022

… for a government that shows little care for them.

I suspect the majority of Russians will just accept the loss

Warpy

(114,650 posts)
6. One hopes they;ve at least gone through the pockets to ID the ones they can
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:40 PM
May 2022

They've done a lot of horrific things in this war they started but piling up the dead until a burial detail can get to them is not one of them. This anonymous treatment of massive and decomposing casualties happens in every war. It's why we need to avoid war.

Now not identifying them and just leaving their families hanging forever, that is bad.

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