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bigtree

(94,261 posts)
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:11 PM May 2022

Musk makes clear pledge to return Trump to Twitter

...if he manages to gain control and make that happen he'll be a fellow insurrectionist, demagogue, covid misinformation monger and race-baiter, since that will be the dominant theme of Trump's tweets. There will be no cleaning up this Twitter cesspool after Trump takes a fresh dump here.

As a more sane Twitter admin ruled, Trump's “highly likely to encourage and inspire people to replicate the criminal acts that took place at the US Capitol on 6 January 2021.”

Now it's clear, so is Musk.


Elon Musk pledges to overturn Twitter’s ban on Donald Trump
https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2022/may/10/elon-musk-pledges-overturn-twitter-ban-donald-trump

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Musk makes clear pledge to return Trump to Twitter (Original Post) bigtree May 2022 OP
More fighting on Twitter, more money for Musk dalton99a May 2022 #1
I'd think it would open up twitter to charges bigtree May 2022 #5
And they will be subject to the same penalties that tfg has been. Scrivener7 May 2022 #9
not a fan of cynicism and apathy bigtree May 2022 #10
I'm heartbroken that you are not a fan. Truly. Scrivener7 May 2022 #11
what's the point in it? bigtree May 2022 #13
Now I'm up to date on your opinions, and all the better for it. Scrivener7 May 2022 #28
posting on this thread bigtree May 2022 #30
Thank you so much for pointing that out. It never hurts to have someone Scrivener7 May 2022 #32
Wrong headline. Musk pledges to support insurrectionist lies, misrepresentations, and fraud JohnSJ May 2022 #2
Yeah, sure is what it is!!! n/t RKP5637 May 2022 #7
South African with additional Tri-USA & Canadian citizenships wants to shit on the USA. TheBlackAdder May 2022 #25
Another appropriate headline JohnSJ May 2022 #26
Well... 2naSalit May 2022 #3
Fuck them all! cilla4progress May 2022 #4
When the billionaires+++ are fighting against the people it gets so damn incredible and hostile. RKP5637 May 2022 #6
When this new money as speech we have pwb May 2022 #8
If Trump isn't held accountable for an insurrection leftstreet May 2022 #12
This message was self-deleted by its author traitorsgalore May 2022 #14
I think when Musk actually owns the platform bigtree May 2022 #19
Musk doesn't want to pay taxes. redstatebluegirl May 2022 #15
He will then monetize the resulting frenzy of hate. Nt Baked Potato May 2022 #16
Hopefully we'll get the Trump's North Korean dick pick in time to spread it around on Twitter. Baitball Blogger May 2022 #17
Of course we knew this ... trump probably asked him to do that Fullduplexxx May 2022 #18
When/if the deal is signed and moves forward Torchlight May 2022 #20
I assure you, there's much more than' juicy, insider gossip for-profit media' on twitter bigtree May 2022 #22
I can't speak to anyone else's reaction, only to mine. Torchlight May 2022 #33
That'll be no more twitter for me! Screw Musk! apcalc May 2022 #21
Trump to start trash-tweeting EV's in 3...2...1... nt Shermann May 2022 #23
They shall be posted on DU 2 or 3 times each GusBob May 2022 #24
We'll see what Musk does when Trump backs up these claims with "science" nt Shermann May 2022 #29
Meanwhile, over at TruthSocial.... tanyev May 2022 #27
if it comes to fruition, that will be my last day on twitter Takket May 2022 #31

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
5. I'd think it would open up twitter to charges
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:17 PM
May 2022

...as a co-conspirator to trump's treason and threats.

Especially the way Musk is looking to ignore the previous ban and press forward, in spite (not despite) of the reasons given.

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
10. not a fan of cynicism and apathy
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:28 PM
May 2022

...besides, precedent apparently counts for nothing these days.

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
13. what's the point in it?
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:33 PM
May 2022

...you're posting on a Democratic message board, essentially messaging that nothing can, or will be done about this clear injustice.

What's the actual point in messaging that here?

FWIW, not a fan of that either. Sorry to upset you again.

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
30. posting on this thread
Tue May 10, 2022, 06:01 PM
May 2022

...is entirely optional.

Things we find when we open threads, can be surprising.

Responses to our own remarks on those threads, not so surprising.

Thought I'd add that, since I have your rapt attention and consideration.

Scrivener7

(59,516 posts)
32. Thank you so much for pointing that out. It never hurts to have someone
Tue May 10, 2022, 06:05 PM
May 2022

say these things, no matter how obvious they might be!

 

JohnSJ

(98,883 posts)
2. Wrong headline. Musk pledges to support insurrectionist lies, misrepresentations, and fraud
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:13 PM
May 2022

TheBlackAdder

(29,981 posts)
25. South African with additional Tri-USA & Canadian citizenships wants to shit on the USA.
Tue May 10, 2022, 04:16 PM
May 2022

RKP5637

(67,112 posts)
6. When the billionaires+++ are fighting against the people it gets so damn incredible and hostile.
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:17 PM
May 2022

This guy wants nothing but chaos.

pwb

(12,660 posts)
8. When this new money as speech we have
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:23 PM
May 2022

no say in anything. Bill Gates help us out here please?

leftstreet

(40,666 posts)
12. If Trump isn't held accountable for an insurrection
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:32 PM
May 2022

...guess there's no reason he can't tweet


Response to bigtree (Original post)

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
19. I think when Musk actually owns the platform
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:44 PM
May 2022

...that would be the actual time when users would be 'supporting' him in some fashion.

But to put that into perspective, I had innumerable problems with the WaPo, for instance since my early adulthood. I wrote letters to their editor almost every week (got a half dozen published), but I don't believe I was 'supporting' every disinformation I responded to.

I'd pay for the paper, and read it, for what it was worth. That didn't make me a supporter, no more than their ombudsman.

I don't actually believe disengaging from major sources of news and information like Twitter helps much, especially if they still have that floor to themselves.

That might change if there's a mass exodus of reasonable folks. That includes all of the pols, newsmakers, reporters, journos, activists, and the rest that I trust implicitly. 'Twitter' doesn't blog much, but its participants certainly do.

redstatebluegirl

(12,827 posts)
15. Musk doesn't want to pay taxes.
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:34 PM
May 2022

His only chance not to have to pay is to have Trump back and the GOP in control He sees putting him back on Twitter as a path to his reelection in 2024. I think it may backfire on him, people will grow weary of him quickly if he tweets every minute. Either way anyone who stays on Twitter after he takes over is throwing their support to the GOP.

Baitball Blogger

(52,341 posts)
17. Hopefully we'll get the Trump's North Korean dick pick in time to spread it around on Twitter.
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:40 PM
May 2022

Torchlight

(6,820 posts)
20. When/if the deal is signed and moves forward
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:48 PM
May 2022

I'll stop clicking on any twitter link. I will not be able to, in good faith, provide that platform with any additional revenue, clicks or eyeballs.

And if it means I miss out on the juicy, insider gossip for-profit media passes off as current events, then I suppose I'll miss out on all sort of nifty, shiny, pretty things. My loss, I guess; wish I could work up the passion to pretend I'll miss anything substantive.

bigtree

(94,261 posts)
22. I assure you, there's much more than' juicy, insider gossip for-profit media' on twitter
Tue May 10, 2022, 03:58 PM
May 2022

...but I take your point.

I'd wonder where to find the activists, pols, journos, etc. that I trust, and who have kept me informed. There really wasn't a more comprehensive platform which featured the people who make and report the news, which features people who make then laws, who run the agencies.

What's left are the clearly compromised news orgs. and networks who only tell you what they want you to hear, and they don't feature some variety of sources. I remember well the days when we were forced to rely on what six or seven pundits on tv said about political events and initiatives.

The obvious result before Twitter offered its platform was groupthink that was nationwide, and it became an essential gathering for those folks I mentioned to convey their take on events. Really opened up the information landscape. Some good, some bad, but you're free to choose who you view on twitter, not so much on cable and network news.

And don't even talk to me about Google, which is one of the most subversive rw, platforms on the internet.

You know, actually the quickest way for Twitter to become a primarily right wing board is for most of the progressives and Dems to leave. Not sure how I feel about that happening.

Torchlight

(6,820 posts)
33. I can't speak to anyone else's reaction, only to mine.
Tue May 10, 2022, 06:08 PM
May 2022

And as I've never had an account there, I doubt they will miss my voice or that I'll have any measurable impact on the ratio of left to right wing subscribers/generators/accounts/whatever-the-format-calls-them. Musk's acquisition had me skeptical of his end-game for a platform I've mostly ignored, and his announcement today just validated my continued avoidance of the platform.

GusBob

(8,246 posts)
24. They shall be posted on DU 2 or 3 times each
Tue May 10, 2022, 04:09 PM
May 2022

That was the usual practice

Most posted here within minutes of the original

Irony can be pretty ironic

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