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Eugene

(67,099 posts)
Fri May 13, 2022, 08:36 PM May 2022

Canada's top court says voluntary extreme intoxication a defence in violent crimes

Source: Global News

Canada’s top court says voluntary extreme intoxication a defence in violent crimes

By Amanda Connolly Global News
Posted May 13, 2022 11:37 am
Updated May 13, 2022 7:05 pm

The Supreme Court of Canada issued a major decision on Friday allowing criminal defendants in cases involving assault — including sexual assault — to use a defence known as self-induced extreme intoxication.

Effectively, it means defendants who voluntarily consume intoxicating substances and then assault or interfere with the bodily integrity of another person can avoid conviction if they can prove they were too intoxicated to control their actions.

“To deprive a person of their liberty for that involuntary conduct committed in a state akin to automatism — conduct that cannot be criminal — violates the principles of fundamental justice in a system of criminal justice based on personal responsibility for one’s actions,” wrote Justice Nicholas Kasirer in the unanimous nine-judge ruling.

Under Section 33.1 of the Criminal Code, extreme intoxication — formally known as non-insane automatism — cannot be used as a defence in criminal cases where the accused voluntarily ingested the intoxicating substance.

The court’s ruling declares that section is unconstitutional.

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Read more: https://globalnews.ca/news/8832723/supreme-court-canada-extreme-intoxication/

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Canada's top court says voluntary extreme intoxication a defence in violent crimes (Original Post) Eugene May 2022 OP
Wow. If you can't control yourself, don't get intoxicated. Pobeka May 2022 #1
If you want to commit a crime, get drunk first. Irish_Dem May 2022 #2
So get really drunk, rape a woman, get away with it legally. PoliticAverse May 2022 #3
Are those judges Trumpers too? ananda May 2022 #4
This sounds more like the case of extreme liberal justices. n/t PoliticAverse May 2022 #6
How does this work with DUIs? Sympthsical May 2022 #5
DUI usually doesn't involve intent. Tomconroy May 2022 #11
"The alcohol made me do it" "Ok, you're free to go" dalton99a May 2022 #7
Err.... That's crazy... Ohio Joe May 2022 #8
So, a rape victim just needs to get super drunk before they kill their rapist? Solly Mack May 2022 #9
It's a common ruling: intoxication theoretically negates intent. Tomconroy May 2022 #10

Pobeka

(5,005 posts)
1. Wow. If you can't control yourself, don't get intoxicated.
Fri May 13, 2022, 08:43 PM
May 2022

The choice to intoxicate oneself was what voluntary in the first place.

To me, this is a case of overthinking the exceedingly obvious. I hope it is somehow reversed.

How do you punish a drunk driver now in Canada?

PoliticAverse

(26,366 posts)
3. So get really drunk, rape a woman, get away with it legally.
Fri May 13, 2022, 08:55 PM
May 2022

> violates the principles of fundamental justice in a system of criminal justice based on personal responsibility for one’s actions,

Apparently there is no personal responsibility for getting drunk?

 

Tomconroy

(7,611 posts)
10. It's a common ruling: intoxication theoretically negates intent.
Fri May 13, 2022, 09:33 PM
May 2022

As a practical matter I personally am unaware of it's being successfully used as a defense at trial.

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