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kpete

(72,901 posts)
Sun May 15, 2022, 06:25 PM May 2022

Al Franken with timely advice:

Democrats’ attempt to codify the right to abortion went down 49-51. We should immediately drop a bill codifying the right to use contraception. Make Republicans vote on that one! Let’s go on offense for a change!


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Al Franken with timely advice: (Original Post) kpete May 2022 OP
That's a great idea that would make headlines bucolic_frolic May 2022 #1
If the mass shooting of the day didn't attract all the attention away from it. albacore May 2022 #2
Can't think of any downside to this. Will chuck allow it? nt delisen May 2022 #3
It needs to be specific about the types of contraception that are legal lapfog_1 May 2022 #4
I like it. Trust_Reality May 2022 #5
Make 'em go on the record! On all this shit! calimary May 2022 #6
Gee, ya think! Firestorm49 May 2022 #7
Al always brings it! bringthePaine May 2022 #8
I like it! And I like taking the offensive. We haven't KPN May 2022 #9
I want to see mandatory vasectomization relayerbob May 2022 #10
I've thought that for a long time. Mere fecundity is not a qualification to give birth. FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #12
I agree 100% YoniCat May 2022 #17
Agreed relayerbob May 2022 #18
Rape isn't about babies so I say more extreme than sterilizing. LakeArenal May 2022 #28
Excellent!!!! Karadeniz May 2022 #11
I'd love to have Franken back in the Senate FoxNewsSucks May 2022 #13
It's not so much that he speaks up.. LakeArenal May 2022 #29
Should have done that with S1, gab13by13 May 2022 #14
Also, a state cannot limit or restrict which health care treatment can be offered to any patient. RicROC May 2022 #19
Really like Al Franken GoldandSilver May 2022 #15
Still remember, will never forget, nor forgive.... LakeArenal May 2022 #30
Start Codifiying EVERYTHING. Loving, Obergefell, EVERYTHING. ChoppinBroccoli May 2022 #16
K&R spanone May 2022 #20
Reliably good advice from Franken. Paladin May 2022 #21
Al is a very bright man and former wrestler. He know how to tussle. And he's right on here. n/t Evolve Dammit May 2022 #22
Yep & codify not criminalizing women. Put them on the record. themaguffin May 2022 #23
I couldn't agree more! I want Franken back! Martin68 May 2022 #24
Has he not noticed all the men in the House and Senate PoindexterOglethorpe May 2022 #25
That's what I was wondering about too. BigmanPigman May 2022 #31
"...for a change." Yes. Please!!!!! NM Grins May 2022 #26
Absolutely. Get them on record NOW!! halfulglas May 2022 #27

albacore

(2,747 posts)
2. If the mass shooting of the day didn't attract all the attention away from it.
Sun May 15, 2022, 06:35 PM
May 2022

"One person was killed and four others were critically injured when a gunman opened fire inside a Southern California church on Sunday, the authorities said.

The gunman was detained outside the Geneva Presbyterian Church in Laguna Woods, Calif., said Carrie Braun, a spokeswoman for the Orange County Sheriff’s Department. A motive for the shooting was not immediately clear, she said.

Four of the victims were in critical condition on Sunday afternoon, she said, and another victim was being treated for minor injuries. The person who was killed was found dead inside the church by the authorities.."

https://www.nytimes.com/2022/05/15/us/california-church-shooting-laguna-woods.html

lapfog_1

(31,904 posts)
4. It needs to be specific about the types of contraception that are legal
Sun May 15, 2022, 07:07 PM
May 2022

including things like the "morning after" pill and IUDs

Trust_Reality

(2,291 posts)
5. I like it.
Sun May 15, 2022, 07:52 PM
May 2022

And others...

Maybe the right to travel across state lines in private vehicles or public transit such as airplanes, trains, and buses.

The right to seek medical care of any kind that may be necessary for health or medical care.

calimary

(90,017 posts)
6. Make 'em go on the record! On all this shit!
Sun May 15, 2022, 07:58 PM
May 2022

Then make a shitload of campaign commercials out of it! Spread out across the talk show universe and drive the point home! And don’t stop til they cry uncle!!!!!

What? You say they’ll probably never do that? They’ll never take any responsibility for what they’ve done?

Well, then, Game ON, you assholes! Guess who ELSE isn’t gonna stop telling the truth about you? And pointing the finger at you? And directing nonstop blame and condemnation at you?

WE ARE. And we NEED TO. And we WILL.

KPN

(17,376 posts)
9. I like it! And I like taking the offensive. We haven't
Sun May 15, 2022, 08:09 PM
May 2022

done that well enough. We should also have bills ready to bring to the floor in each House following every mass shooting. Do it now while we at least control the agenda and with an election just 6 months out.

relayerbob

(7,428 posts)
10. I want to see mandatory vasectomization
Sun May 15, 2022, 08:20 PM
May 2022

It's reversible. When men prove themselves to be mature and responsible, then they can consider reversals. Those 25 men are going to be damn busy, though.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,701 posts)
12. I've thought that for a long time. Mere fecundity is not a qualification to give birth.
Sun May 15, 2022, 08:34 PM
May 2022

Quitter Palin and the Duggars should have been enough example of that.

 

YoniCat

(12 posts)
17. I agree 100%
Sun May 15, 2022, 10:58 PM
May 2022

I agree. Render all males unable to make babies until they can provide evidence they can afford to support them. Then give them a free reversal operation when it's time for them to start a family. Rapists should be permanently sterilized.

relayerbob

(7,428 posts)
18. Agreed
Sun May 15, 2022, 11:49 PM
May 2022

Not just support them, but actually know how to raise the children and nuture them. And yes, definitely agree on the sterilization for rapists, I'd actually go one step farther and make physically impossible for them to ever rape again. My only concern there is that they might become killers. HOwever, we already have "incels", so apparently some have already neutered themselves through their behavior.

FoxNewsSucks

(11,701 posts)
13. I'd love to have Franken back in the Senate
Sun May 15, 2022, 08:36 PM
May 2022

Imagine, a Democrat who speaks up and fights for liberal policy and the Democratic party. Instead of siding with Moscow Mitch like certain other Democratic Senators.



LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
29. It's not so much that he speaks up..
Mon May 16, 2022, 02:32 PM
May 2022

But his choice of words cut to the bone.

Just like Jenn……

gab13by13

(32,318 posts)
14. Should have done that with S1,
Sun May 15, 2022, 09:04 PM
May 2022

break it up into parts and make them vote on giving food and water to people waiting to vote. Make them vote on no excuse absentee ballots. So many things Chuck Schumer could have done, now the Magats have passed all kinds of terrible voter/election laws.

RicROC

(1,249 posts)
19. Also, a state cannot limit or restrict which health care treatment can be offered to any patient.
Mon May 16, 2022, 07:59 AM
May 2022

GoldandSilver

(186 posts)
15. Really like Al Franken
Sun May 15, 2022, 09:50 PM
May 2022

Should never have driven him out of Congress - knee jerk crap is just knee jerk crap. Having said that, the Repukes may ban contraceptives all on their own. G..d… wackos.

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
30. Still remember, will never forget, nor forgive....
Mon May 16, 2022, 02:34 PM
May 2022

Who besides Gillibrand is responsible, in my opinion.

And it ain’t just Republicans.

ChoppinBroccoli

(3,900 posts)
16. Start Codifiying EVERYTHING. Loving, Obergefell, EVERYTHING.
Sun May 15, 2022, 10:27 PM
May 2022

Get them ALL on record as to where they REALLY stand on these issues. Then start making the campaign ads.

 

Paladin

(32,354 posts)
21. Reliably good advice from Franken.
Mon May 16, 2022, 09:09 AM
May 2022

I wonder if our party has the guts to propose such a vote?

Evolve Dammit

(21,774 posts)
22. Al is a very bright man and former wrestler. He know how to tussle. And he's right on here. n/t
Mon May 16, 2022, 09:10 AM
May 2022

PoindexterOglethorpe

(28,493 posts)
25. Has he not noticed all the men in the House and Senate
Mon May 16, 2022, 12:46 PM
May 2022

who have said they'd ban birth control? And haven't at least two Justices said they'd overturn Griswold vs Connecticutt?

Nice sentiment, Al, but I'm not sure you've been entirely paying attention.

BigmanPigman

(55,137 posts)
31. That's what I was wondering about too.
Mon May 16, 2022, 03:35 PM
May 2022

The GQP already said they want to go after contraception next.

halfulglas

(1,654 posts)
27. Absolutely. Get them on record NOW!!
Mon May 16, 2022, 01:46 PM
May 2022

Bring them out in the open for those who think they will "never go THAT far." Like Susan Collins pretending voting against the bill codifying Roe was because her bill was better because it left out throwing out the Hyde Amendment, an Amendment which should never have been legal in the first place.

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