This is so disturbing

[Norbert]

First, these people breed. I'm no prude. By 10 years old my friends and I discovered the word 'f*ck' and used it proudly among each other but never brave enough to include it in conversation with my parents. These idiots put it on a birthday cake and disrespects a sitting president in the process along with placing their phallic symbol on the cake as well.

What really worries me is how many Kyle Rittenhouse or Payton Gendron wannabes will we need deal with down the road because of the poisoning of their minds at such a young age.

Link to tweet

[Skittles]

1. now THAT is "GROOMING"

[Martin Eden]

12. Children aren't born DEPLORABLE

They are groomed to be that way.

[Evolve Dammit]

25. Damm right. Great point. Wish the one in the middle had blown Dad's head off (accidentally)

[634-5789]

2. Imagine the seething hatred they're grooming the kids with. Child abuse!

[wnylib]

20. Yes, it is child abuse but it's next to impossible

to get a child protection agency to deal with it. The parents can claim a 2nd amendment right to bear arms and a parental right to raise their children as they see fit. The kids are well fed, clothed, and housed. No bruises, broken bones, or illness in the kids.

So, it is up to the people in the kids' lives to give them a healthier perspective. Whenever we encounter kids like this, we should include them in outings with our own families and children when we can, depending on your own kids' age and reasoning. Take them with you to get ice cream, or to a playground.

If you are a teacher or coach, give them positive attention. Be a model for them. If they spout stuff they have been taught by psycho parents, just say that there are many ways to look at things. Don't push, but if they ask, give short, simple examples, answers, or questions like, "How do you feel about that?" Plant seeds in their minds that make them think so that they know that there are alternatives. Be careful not to say or do anything that would make the parents keep the children away from you. Just subtly show them that there are other ways to think and feel and that they have choices.

The children that we help in little ways could grow up with healthier views of themselves and the world.

[OldBaldy1701E]

26. Being careful is not the issue.

Those 'parents' would shoot you in a second if they thought you were trying to get their kids to not be racist thugs. Not to mention maybe deciding that you were trying to do something worse to them. (Read: grooming, which is the right's excuse for any positive attention given to a child, including their own.) You want to help those kids, keep a constant eye out for them while they are in your sight. Chances are those two morons will end up getting arrested for using their metal phalluses to intimidate someone. Then, you make sure that everyone petitions the police and the county to take them away from those dangerous idiots. Make sure everyone calls or contacts the authorities and says the same thing. Those kids are in danger and they need to be removed. Not from physical abuse. From psychological abuse. The indoctrination into the radical fringe and the associated insanity should be grounds for action. But, as you pointed out... pretty much impossible, unless those two dunderheads make a mistake. Which I am banking that they will.

[wnylib]

31. I was once a volunteer Big Sister for a 7 year old girl

who was in a very abusive family. As far as I know, guns were not present. The child lived with her father, stepmother, and half siblings, all White. Her biological mother was Native American but the kid knew nothing about that and never saw her mother once custody was settled with her father when she was an infant. (Long story.)

There was physical, psychological, and sexual abuse in the family. Suspicions were reported by her teachers and by me. As a volunteer Big Sister, I was legally mandated. But Social Services never found concrete evidence during investigations. The kids were too terrified to speak to investigators.

I never criticized the parents when speaking to them. I always got their permission for outings and activities. They were connected with a fundamentalist church that was psychologically abusive, so I got permission to take her to a mainstream church that teaches love. I encouraged her to believe that if she had something report, it was ok to tell a teacher because adults would protect her if she spoke. Eventually, she did. She was removed, but only temporarily until the sexual abuser was out of the house. There was more physical and psychological abuse after she and her siblings returned home.

Meantime, her family threatened me several times so that I ended up quitting to protect her as well as myself because they were blaming her for things they thought I reported. (It was actually a teacher, not me, who reported the sexual abuse after the child told the teacher.)

But, I kept in touch through school visits and when I saw her with her friends walking down the street, away from her house. She needed a positive influence and the experience of alternatives. I told her about her Seneca ancestry (which my grandmother also had) and took her to the rez, usually called "territory" by the Seneca.

She ran away from home at 14 and was taken in by a foster family. She is now an adult with her own children. Her stepmother is deceased. She introduced me to her children as "grandma." She still works out issues that she has to deal with from her childhood.

Throughout all of this, I felt legally helpless to do as much as I wanted, and had to walk a fine line with her family until not even that was possible. But I found that little things to validate her feelings and show her other ways of living had a positive effect for her in the long run.

[OldBaldy1701E]

42. She was lucky to have you there.

And, you were even luckier that the family did not decide to blame you for everything that they determined was stuff that they did not like. To make along story short, I worked in a private school for close to ten years. In that time, I had a few parents speak out against me (still do not know why except that I did not look like a successful, GQ-type), and had two staff members turn on me, with one of them trying to get me arrested and in trouble with the state Child Protective Services (both staff members were just being asshats, with the one deciding that his own failure as a staff member was my fault. Which was interesting considering that we were two different departments, and I had little to do with him or his department. My point is that flaky parents can and will do anything to maintain their hold on their children and that is a danger to those of us who feel that the old adage about a village is true.

I am warmed to hear that you had such an influence on that woman. I worked hard in the time I was with those kids to have such an effect. I have no idea if I did. Based on the evidence, I would say I did not. Another failure in a lifetime of it.

[vercetti2021]

3. Wow

They wanna accuse others of grooming while grooming future serial killers of America. I bet one of those kids will either shoot their parents or their siblings for letting their kid access a firearm

[Rhiannon12866]

4. How many news stories have we seen of a 5-year-old shooting his 2-year-old brother?

Children have no idea of what guns can do - not to mention adults who have no knowledge or training. This is child endangerment.

[IcyPeas]

5. What are those things that the parents are holding?

[Bernardo de La Paz]

6. It's a javelin cage

So if the gun is hit by a Javelin missile, the cage triggers the missile to explode a microsecond too early and dissipates the explosion, protecting the gun. Probably saw them in pictures of the russian tanks in Ukraine and adapted it for home defense use. 'Cause them evil feds are gonna use missiles aginst us patriots'.

[DetroitLegalBeagle]

7. Compound bows

N/t

[ashredux]

15. Bow and arrows

[Emile]

8. That's so sick!

[smirkymonkey]

9. I already have comments on both those threads on Twitter.

I agree that it is just so sick and I will never understand the gun worship in this country. One of my comments on the family in the first photo has taken off like a shot. I just mentioned how miserable the little girl looks and how much she was being forced into something she didn't want or need.

I just really hate people like this. They are what is wrong with this country.

[vlyons]

10. Very disturbing

I'm not going to post this on my FB page. My friends already understand how sick this shit is.

Really really sick. So I want to go back and understand how these parents got this way. Is this the result of non-stop Fox News watching? Is this because all their relatives and friends regurgitate fear and loathing, and that's all they ever hear? Is this what they hear in Church every Sunday? Is their world just a simmering stew of resentment and envy and hatred?

I think it's all of the above. Now I need to go rinse this disturbing filth from my mind.

The Buddhist 4 Immeasurable Thoughts:
May all beings be free from suffering, and free from the causes and conditions of suffering.
May all beings be happy, and have the causes and conditions for happiness.
May all beings rejoice in the success, happiness, and well-being of others.
May all beings rest in the equanimity of no attachment and no aversion.

[Evolve Dammit]

27. Thank you. OM.

[bucolic_frolic]

11. I find the obscene flags disturbing

Never expected to see four letter words on lawns or billboards. Hate breeds intent. How do you disarm hatred? Where are they finding this hatred? What network are they tuned into? Yeah, I know, Fox, but do they use four letter words? Do they get it from church? Fundraising emails?

[Emile]

14. I saw a pickup truck in Lafayette, Indiana flying a FUCK BIDEN

flag from the back of his truck on Sunday morning. He just left the.church parking lot from Sunday morning church services.

[Lars39]

19. Down my street there's

a MAGAT with a flagpole flying (top to bottom) the christian flag, the U.S. flag, and the F@ck Joe Biden flag.

[vlyons]

29. Alas we cannot change others

We can only change ourselves. They want to change us with force and violence, annihilate us even. There is no magic wand to wave and make them be better. Reasoning with them doesn't seem work.

I'm an old lady, 75, now living in a Sr center in reduced, greatly reduced circumstances. I can't go BACK in time and make different choices. I can however still vote and still contribute a few bon mots here on DU.

The most difficult thing for me is to not hate them. Little babies don't come into the world hating liberals. They are taught that. They are the result of years of causes and conditions that made them that way. The picture with the kids shows exactly how that whole process happens. And it's why as a Buddhist I am taught to have great compassion for them. To reflect on the causes andf conditions that made them that way. I guarantee you that they did not grow up in a kind and loving home. Kind and loving homes don't transform children into turds.

Don't misunderstand me. Compassion is not a get out of jail free card. It does not absolve them from the consequences of their actions. All that hatred is what keeps them stuck in great suffering forever and ever. So maybe the place to start is to have compassion for the children. For all children, who will most certainly hear messages of hate, and some kids will never be taught how to rise above anger. Maybe a place to start is to tell a child something simple, like anger is poison. Hatred is poison. Do you want to hurt people with anger and hatred, or do you want to be a ray of sunshine?

Forgive me, I ramble.

[bucolic_frolic]

33. "anger is poison"

Magic words. We tend to use tht term toxic today, but it connotes tolerable allergy. Poison is a far better word. You have adjusted the message the world must heed. See? You still have it!

[vlyons]

35. Anger is poison are words written by a Tibetan lama

They struck a chord in me, and I instantly "got it." When I was younger, I was angry a lot. Now when anger arises, Buddhism has given me some tools to rise above it and calm down.

Your own response shows how powerful those words are. Tell a friend. Spread the word.

[Irish_Dem]

13. What kind of society arms its children?

A sick society.

[bucolic_frolic]

22. The hatred taught and instilled in these kids is not going away

For most of them, perhaps not ever. To approach the subject differently, what societies armed their children and put the genie back in the bottle? It would be gracious and optimistic to say there are countries with universal conscription that have home-based, disciplined militia or armed reserves, and there are. But we have no such apparatus. The outcome is scattershot.

[TheFarseer]

16. Would be interesting to ask the kid

Why do we hate Joe Biden? I can only imagine the reasons he would give or maybe he wouldn’t even have any idea.

[onethatcares]

28. it would be interesting to ask the parent

I can only imagine the reasons they would give, or they wouldn't even have any idea.

After her child bearing years how long do you think bobby joe will hang with kitty sue?

[secondwind]

17. CHILD ABUSE!!!!!!!!

[MarineCombatEngineer]

36. Not by any definition of the law. nt

[3Hotdogs]

18. Usually, I invoke Bugs Bunny when referring to assholes like these -- "What a maroon."

In this case, what a bunch of jerk-offs... scared of everything that they need to spend thousands of dollars to buy shit they will never use to defend against their boogyman, ......the gub'mint? ..... Lib'tards?

Or the kid's photo will be on next decade's D.U. after he kills 6 people.


Sick fucks.

[MarineCombatEngineer]

30. Ummm,

You do know that the first picture is of a family holding hunting rifles and compound bows don't you?

I vehemently disagree with the kids holding those hunting rifles, but this could be just a family picture, however distasteful it is.

Now the second picture is just offensive, which isn't against the law to be an asshole.

[newdayneeded]

21. There is hope

I grew up in an overly religious household. I'd be puking in the church parking lot and they'd make me go in, next day not so sick and could stay home from school. (an example of how much religion was to them)

because of that I was turned completely off religion. Maybe a % of those kids will revolt against their family's right wing bullshit in their adulthood.

[gab13by13]

23. I have found that these Magats

put on a tough guy/gal persona, when in fact they live every day in fear. Several people in my red neck town of 2,000 people tell me they keep loaded guns in their homes, some with strobe lights, to blind marauding rapists and murderers.

You can Google studies that were done on the conservative brain and they found the area of the brain that activates fear, the fight or flight syndrome, is more pronounced in them.

when I asked one Magat why he is so afraid that he keeps loaded guns in his house, he replied he isn't afraid because he has the loaded guns. We don't have crime, i don't even lock my doors.

[ecstatic]

24. Very disturbing and sad. nt

[Hotler]

32. Christians no doubt. nt

[dalton99a]

34. Kick

[niyad]

37. Pity that the gun in the hands of the kid on the floor did not go off, as it was

aimed at the "father".

[PatSeg]

38. That's terrifying

[oregonjen]

39. Notice the soulless looks the kids have? Except for the littlest, they all have

no love in their eyes. No joy. I suppose they were told to look that way for the pic, but geez, it’s sad. Hard to have that look when holding deadly weapons, but kids usually have no filter, just a love of life look that hasn’t been muted yet.

[keithbvadu2]

40. Could those kids actually shoot those guns with the recoil?

Could those kids actually shoot those guns with the recoil?

[MarineCombatEngineer]

41. Probably,

at 9 yo, I was shooting a 30/30 Winchester hunting rifle, the kick wasn't that bad and it looks like the younger kids are holding .22 rifles, which have minimal recoil.