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bluescribbler

(2,116 posts)
Mon May 16, 2022, 10:36 PM May 2022

What will it take to get meaningful gun reform through Congress and on the President's desk?

I don't know the answer, but here's a clue. The last time it happened was when Congress passed the Brady Bill. I'm not saying there's a cause-and-effect relationship here, but the Brady Bill was enacted after John Hinkley, Jr. shot Republican President Ronald Reagan. Is that what it will take? I shudder to think.

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What will it take to get meaningful gun reform through Congress and on the President's desk? (Original Post) bluescribbler May 2022 OP
If 20 elementary kids didn't do it SoonerPride May 2022 #1
Rep. Scalise was shot Retrograde May 2022 #14
A miracle... regnaD kciN May 2022 #2
10 Republicans plus Manchin and Sinema nt AZSkiffyGeek May 2022 #3
Gun Violence Is Our Past, Our Present & Our Future SoCalDavidS May 2022 #4
A POC hunting cops. Oh wait that already happened in 2016 in Dallas. JanMichael May 2022 #5
An alien invasion In It to Win It May 2022 #6
It won't happen ripcord May 2022 #7
Have to convince them to give a little now NotTodayPutin May 2022 #15
You are right, I think Delarage May 2022 #8
If Trump had lost in 16 and we had gotten some justices...once we got a majority, we Demsrule86 May 2022 #9
It's going to take losing again and again gratuitous May 2022 #10
Not a fucking thing, sad to say jmowreader May 2022 #11
Resuscitate MADISON? - (his first drafts) UTUSN May 2022 #12
70 Democrat Senators RainCaster May 2022 #13

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
1. If 20 elementary kids didn't do it
Mon May 16, 2022, 10:38 PM
May 2022

Nothing will.

Unless the news started showing the dead bodies in graphic detail.

I think it may have to come to that.

Even then I have my doubts.


We live in a failed country.

Retrograde

(10,133 posts)
14. Rep. Scalise was shot
Tue May 17, 2022, 02:15 AM
May 2022

and he still didn't change his mind about even limited gun control. It will take something like a prominent GOPer actually getting killed - and I don't think any of them are as popular as Reagan was, so even that won't do it.

regnaD kciN

(26,044 posts)
2. A miracle...
Mon May 16, 2022, 10:50 PM
May 2022

And, even if you were able to do so, the current “pro-life” SCOTUS would be sure to strike it down as unconstitutional. Because some precedents need to be maintained, of course.

SoCalDavidS

(9,998 posts)
4. Gun Violence Is Our Past, Our Present & Our Future
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:01 PM
May 2022

NOTHING is going to change that.

Americans talk a good game, but deep down, they really don't give a shit about the lives of their fellow humans.

THOUGHTS & PRAYERS. There, that makes it all better.

It is so much easier to act like we care. Act like each mass shooting is a tragedy, and the lives lost are to be mourned and avenged.

But in reality, it's all Bullshit. We'd much rather have the police and prosecutors spend hours, days, weeks and months conducting their Bullshit investigations, so perpetrators, if still alive, can be brought to "justice." So we can spend all that time Analyzing what caused the tragedy, and then do SHIT about it.

ripcord

(5,346 posts)
7. It won't happen
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:05 PM
May 2022

Pro gun people feel that gun control efforts will continue on forever taking bits of their rights at a time so they aren't giving in on anything else.

Delarage

(2,186 posts)
8. You are right, I think
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:11 PM
May 2022

Only when "one of their own" becomes a victim (instead of the perpetrator). The 1% rarely suffer b/c they don't attend public schools, don't shop at grocery stores in black neighborhoods, etc. Just another example of the elites running the Repuke party using wedge issues to keep the focus off of their unabashed greed and destruction.

Demsrule86

(68,552 posts)
9. If Trump had lost in 16 and we had gotten some justices...once we got a majority, we
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:14 PM
May 2022

might have written a law that would make it through the courts...but not now. And this is not an issue to run on even now. We need to focus on Roe...which is a voting issue.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
10. It's going to take losing again and again
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:23 PM
May 2022

We have to be willing to lose vote after vote in Congress. We have to be persistent. We have to lose, and listen to the gun humpers gloat. Right now, we live in a country where daily mass shootings are preferable to the utter catastrophe that someone, somewhere, is stopped from buying and using a weapon designed to kill and maim dozens of people in 60 seconds. Do we value our daily lives in a non-shooting environment enough to risk regulating ownership of firearms like every other civilized nation on the planet?

jmowreader

(50,554 posts)
11. Not a fucking thing, sad to say
Mon May 16, 2022, 11:55 PM
May 2022

Even if someone were to take Donald Trump out back and shoot him, which should never happen - I really want him to die in the reopened-as-a-prison Alcatraz - they wouldn't want gun control. In fact, they would probably start shooting anything that moves just in case that person might secretly be a Democrat.

RainCaster

(10,866 posts)
13. 70 Democrat Senators
Tue May 17, 2022, 01:59 AM
May 2022

And the same percentage of House Dems, and a Democrat in the White House to sign it into law.
Then we will need a liberal supermajority on the SCOTUS.

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