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Joe Nation

(962 posts)
Tue May 17, 2022, 03:45 AM May 2022

Trump said NATO was obsolete numerous times before the 2016 election and afterwards

He complained mostly about the cost NATO members weren't shouldering and how unfair it was but his underlying message was that NATO wasn't relevant and that it didn't address terrorism. Two rather vapid conclusions from a person that knew next to nothing about NATO and its purpose.

Today, NATO is meeting the European security challenges of non-member states and expanding its membership in the face of Russian aggression. NATO has become a much more sought after club of democracies than it has ever been with even long standing neutral countries seeking membership.

If Trump had won a second term, the situation we see today would be very different. NATO would would be in disarray, weaker, and struggling to maintain members. Trump would most likely have cut funding to please his Moscow Master and the GOP would have happily played right along.

Elections do have consequences. Thank you Joe Biden and the Democrats. Thank you Ukraine for your bravery and your determination to remain a free and open society refusing to live under the boot of Russian tyranny. You inspire us all.

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Trump said NATO was obsolete numerous times before the 2016 election and afterwards (Original Post) Joe Nation May 2022 OP
Well, now we know that PatSeg May 2022 #1
Many of us knew it then, before he was elected in 2016 SouthernDem4ever May 2022 #2
I remember it being discussed PatSeg May 2022 #3
and trump would have blocked sweden and finland bid to join AlexSFCA May 2022 #4
He's still doing it. Just released statement: "our so-called NATO allies" Walleye May 2022 #5
If he is re-elected, he will work to destroy NATO dwayneb May 2022 #6

PatSeg

(47,275 posts)
1. Well, now we know that
Tue May 17, 2022, 05:36 AM
May 2022

Trump was just repeating what Putin wanted him to say about NATO. It's not like Trump ever cared about NATO and as you said, he "knew next to nothing about NATO". He knew what Putin wanted him to know.

PatSeg

(47,275 posts)
3. I remember it being discussed
Tue May 17, 2022, 06:19 AM
May 2022

at the time, but in retrospect, it is even more obvious now, being we know so much more than we did then. In 2016 I thought it was true, but now I KNOW it is true.

dwayneb

(766 posts)
6. If he is re-elected, he will work to destroy NATO
Tue May 17, 2022, 07:42 AM
May 2022

Without the US supporting them, NATO is in a world of hurt. Let Putin rebuild his army and he will move his conquest westward.

The world is changing, and the elections of 2022 and 2024 in the USA will set the stage. Better get ready because the forces of evil have the upper hand right now. This is reality.

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