UFOs: Few answers at rare US Congressional hearing

[Eugene]

Source: BBC

UFOs: Few answers at rare US Congressional hearing

17 May 2022

The first public congressional hearing into UFO sightings in the US in over 50 years ended with few answers about the unexplained phenomenon.

Two top military officials tasked with probing the sightings said that most can ultimately be identified.

But they said a number of events have defied all attempts at explanation.

The sightings recorded by the military include 11 "near-misses" with US aircraft.

Some Unexplained Aerial Phenomena (UAPs) - as the military terms UFOs - seem to have been moving without any discernible means of propulsion.

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Read more: https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61474201

[global1]

1. But What About The Sightings At Skinwalker Ranch?.....nt

[Effete Snob]

9. They continue to make money for the owners

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Because the people who lived there for decades prior to the Shermans selling it to a UFO proponent in 1996, do not claim to have seen jack shit there.

[exboyfil]

2. Did they bother to invite someone like Mick West

He is able to duplicate most videos by demonstrating the technology used can create the images seen without resorting to the explanation of unknown aircraft.

[Archae]

6. Nah, they never will.

He has this habit of showing bullshit to be bullshit.

And those who are making political or financial gain from pandering to the flying saucer kooks don't like anyone puncturing thier cash cows.

[fightforfreedom]

3. Has everyone lost their minds?

If beings were visiting earth they would have to travel light years to get here. Do a fly over of the earth and then travel light years back home.

If I traveled light years to a planet I would not just do a fly over and then travel light years back home. I would land, stretch my legs, breathe in some fresh air, par take in the good food and wine.

It's called physics. Speed, distance, time. Star Trek does not count. Just because the Enterprise had warp drive doesn't make it so.

[ret5hd]

7. In what manner, exactly, do you think Elon is spending his time doing here???

[Effete Snob]

11. What really sucks

Is that you put all of that effort into zipping across the galaxy, and your entire existence is covered up by the US government - which only exercises jurisdiction over 1.867% of the planet's surface.

That has to suck, right?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

16. The illogic involved in such thinking is dismaying (nt)

[Effete Snob]

26. It's not as bad as...

"Why is there not solid evidence?"

"Because they don't want to interfere with our culture and development."

"Then why are UFO's such a notable feature of our popular culture?"

They cannot have simultaneously made themselves known and not made themselves known. Obviously, if they are watching us, then they know that they've already fucked up to some extent and need a better plan. Not very bright, these alien folks.

I just want to see a debate between:

Alien Visitors or Human Time Travelers From the Future?

I want to know why the alien visitors advocates rule out the possibility of them being human time travelers from the future. Obviously, if time travel is ever invented, then future time travelers would be visiting us now.

[exboyfil]

12. I think there is the possibility of AI probes

Possibly von Neumann devices that are self-replicating. We just haven't seen any to this point.

There is also the possibility of something like the Sentinel/2001 space monolith. Again we have not observed one.

I personally believe, based upon the complexities associated with biology and the non-directionality of evolution, that technological species are exceedingly rare - possibly even multi-galaxy rare (only one appearing in a number of galaxies over a specific epoch).

The grainy images are far from any sort of proof though. Most have been explained by skeptics using simple experiments with the existing technology.

[Captain Stern]

25. Well done

You referenced Star Trek, then finished your post with 'make it so'.

Excellent.

[BlueJac]

4. Sounds like another dog and pony show.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

5. People who actually think UAP's could be alien visitations crack me up (nt)

[Effete Snob]

14. It's so bizarre

"But, but, but.. the universe is really big and the probability of life existing elsewhere is good..."

Which is true. The earth's atmosphere, on the other hand, is really, really small.

There are around 1.5 MILLION wildebeest on planet earth. There has never been one in my backyard. Why is that?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

19. The possibility of other intelligent species EVER existing in the universe?

Have to say that's high. Esp. if you don't consider how far away it is from Earth.

But that's entirely different than them being able to visit us, during the last 70 years people have been claiming to see them (it cannot be overstated what a TINY blip of time this is, cosmologically).

They would not only have to be the proper distance away to be able get here, but also be developing as an intelligent species at just the right time that correlates perfectly with the distance between our worlds, and the max speed thru space their tech allows them to travel.

People who believe in alien visitations are not grasping the math and statistics here, esp. wrt time and distance. They say the kind of thing you suggested, and completely illogically extrapolate 'that means they could visit Earth just in time for us to see them'.

Yeah, no it doesn't. AT ALL.

I also think evolution will basically work the same way everywhere, and that 'intelligent life' will end up destroying it's host planet in a span of a few hundreds of years from the time advanced tech begins to develop there. Look at humans ... we're on pace for a Max Max kinda existence by 2100 at the latest.

NO CHANCE humans ever come up with 'warp travel' or whatever, and in fact, it's almost surely impossible anyway.

[Effete Snob]

21. But, Hugh, there are 1.5 million wildebeest on the planet

Surely, one has been in my backyard.

[Hugh_Lebowski]

24. My point is more like 'there were many, many millions of dinosaurs on Earth

ergo, surely a T-Rex will show up in my backyard someday'.

[Initech]

8. Really? This is what they are choosing to spend time on? UFOs?

[smirkymonkey]

13. My reaction exactly.

FFS, I know they can multi-task, but this issue is way down at the bottom of the list. We have more pressing and urgent matters to deal with.

[hunter]

10. Heh. We're already here and we don't need spaceships.

We now return Hunter to his regularly scheduled programming.

[hamsterjill]

17. Thread winner!!

Thanks for the laugh.

[fightforfreedom]

20. Hunter, people are looking for you.

Please show yourself. If it's possible could you please abduct Trump.

[jpak]

15. I want to believe....

[fightforfreedom]

18. Have you ever noticed the pictures and videos taken recently of UFOs,

Look like the ones taken back in the 50s. Blurry, always from a distance, black and white. Every year there are scores of sightings and no one can take a clear up close picture, video of a UFO? That's a clue.

[Effete Snob]

22. Well, duh

Obviously the propulsion mechanism interferes with photography.

The consistently poor quality of the evidence is itself PROOF that the propulsion system interferes with photographic in a consistent manner.

It scrambles the photons, which then go spinning off like clouds of dust in its wake. These scrambled photons interact with photographic equipment to produce blurry photos.

You may have just solved a large part of the puzzle.

It's the same principle that applies to a lot of psychic phenomena - subjecting certain psychic phenomena to the presence of skeptics and scientific controls impairs the ability of those phenomena to occur.

[alphafemale]

23. So tired of woo nonsense.

There are no invaders from space or from inside a hollow earth or shadow people or black eyed children or any said horse shit.

[fightforfreedom]

27. Don't tell anyone, my wife is an alien.

She came here from the planet Brazil. We only dated a few times and I knew she was the one. I asked her to marry me and she said yes. We have now been married 22 years.

By the way, my wife and I hate the term Illegal Alien. Who came up with that? Must have been a Republican.

[Wounded Bear]

28. They are "unidentified." There are no answers...

If there were answers, they wouldn't be unidentified.

[fightforfreedom]

29. Congress held a hearing to figure that out.

So sad.