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fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
Thu May 19, 2022, 05:31 PM May 2022

More breaking news. The committee has received official photos from the national archives.

The committee has been putting together a detailed time line of what exactly was happening in the Whitehouse during the attack. They have official Whitehouse photos, testimony, diary entries. They have a ton of evidence that could prove Trump and others were supportive of the attack on the capital. They watched it and did not try to stop it.

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More breaking news. The committee has received official photos from the national archives. (Original Post) fightforfreedom May 2022 OP
Not to be redundant and obtuse... cilla4progress May 2022 #1
We weren't inside the White House Novara May 2022 #2
There's metadata on each photograph. SergeStorms May 2022 #21
Any photo of Trump on the phone... Eyeball_Kid May 2022 #34
Yepper! SergeStorms May 2022 #43
No we watched the capitol buildings in real time Bev54 May 2022 #5
Ahh...yes.. cilla4progress May 2022 #10
I know. It's making me crazy waiting for the obvious. ananda May 2022 #20
Can we say BOMBSHELL evidence??? ProudMNDemocrat May 2022 #3
No NQAS May 2022 #15
My apologies. ProudMNDemocrat May 2022 #24
Me too. A bombshell is what's left when the bomb has already exploded. jaxexpat May 2022 #32
Yes, "bombshell" is too much hyperobole, but it is not an exploded casing Bernardo de La Paz May 2022 #36
It was cool imagery though. jaxexpat May 2022 #39
I'd consider it a "bombshell" if a significant portion of the population acted like they gave a fuck Silent3 May 2022 #33
"The word bombshell should be banned on DU." LudwigPastorius May 2022 #47
No word should be banned on DU lefthandedskyhook May 2022 #53
I wonder how many of the photos will show Trump talking on the phone Bev54 May 2022 #4
Aaah... 🤔 electric_blue68 May 2022 #6
Or photos of all of them watching it happen on a bigscreen Budi May 2022 #7
There exists a published photo Eyeball_Kid May 2022 #35
There must be more. Laughing & whoopin it up, as the US Capitol is under siege Budi May 2022 #37
Oh wow! C Moon May 2022 #13
Got a link to these photos that show trump was calling shots from WH? Would think Hoyt May 2022 #8
I am not sure when they were released but I expect they were in with Bev54 May 2022 #12
Oh really? Kingofalldems May 2022 #17
You think Committee, DOJ, FBI, 1000s of Woodward/Bernstein wannabes, didn't try to review photos? Hoyt May 2022 #19
So you don't have any proof. Kingofalldems May 2022 #23
And you have no proof there is anything in those photos other than trump looking stupid in WH. Hoyt May 2022 #28
Do you ever read posts here and think, Just_Vote_Dem May 2022 #29
In a word: yes. ShazzieB May 2022 #38
Do you ever read posts anywhere on internet that you wonder if people Hoyt May 2022 #41
Precisely lefthandedskyhook May 2022 #52
Constantly. CrackityJones75 May 2022 #48
The fact that the Capitol was attacked and there was no effort SledDriver May 2022 #9
Well, this was what cilla4progress May 2022 #11
The one under the tent with all the Trumps.. jcgoldie May 2022 #25
I get it cilla4progress May 2022 #26
Excellent point. Traildogbob May 2022 #14
Think Capitol is 1.8 miles from WH. Not sure that would be perceived a threat. But who knows? Hoyt May 2022 #18
The Secret Service doesn't mess around SledDriver May 2022 #30
A bunch of imbeciles climbing walls and terrorists flying planes aren't Hoyt May 2022 #40
This message was self-deleted by its author Kingofalldems May 2022 #16
Watched it? They organized it and set it in motion. paleotn May 2022 #22
But you can't assume the premise. n/t Igel May 2022 #44
Perhaps, ten years from now, all star, major motion picture will be made about the events Chainfire May 2022 #27
All the President's Men II sop May 2022 #31
This would be sweet justice... Shipwack May 2022 #42
What would keep the photographer from testifying about what he saw and heard? nt wiggs May 2022 #45
Artist's rendition. The official photos should be better. Marcuse May 2022 #46
We can't let this thing back in office. n/t EndlessWire May 2022 #50
That's great EndlessWire May 2022 #49
There is an Oath to "faithfully execute the Office" or something... Justice matters. May 2022 #51
The committee has the evidence. fightforfreedom May 2022 #54
Yeah, really MadameButterfly May 2022 #55
The really funny thing is this is probably the White House Photographer TFG ripped off 2Gingersnaps May 2022 #56
The committee should subpoena the WH photographer to learn what she knows. LastLiberal in PalmSprings May 2022 #59
I'm guessing not a few of the photos will show him on the phone ... Novara May 2022 #57
Trump watched in glee that he YoshidaYui May 2022 #58

Novara

(6,115 posts)
2. We weren't inside the White House
Thu May 19, 2022, 05:34 PM
May 2022

The official photographer was. And it sounds like he documented evidence of what was happening inside.

We've heard of what happened; now maybe we'll get a chance to see it.

SergeStorms

(20,591 posts)
21. There's metadata on each photograph.
Thu May 19, 2022, 06:50 PM
May 2022

Possibly the photographers name, time of photo, settings on the camera etc. There's a wealth of information there to help the J6 committee put together a timeline of everyone's actions.

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
34. Any photo of Trump on the phone...
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:54 PM
May 2022

will possess the exact time the photo was taken. If it was inside the “blackout” time period in which there is no record of calls, then it’s evidence tampering.

ProudMNDemocrat

(20,898 posts)
3. Can we say BOMBSHELL evidence???
Thu May 19, 2022, 05:35 PM
May 2022

A photographic journal of that day at the White House in the hands of the Jan.6th committee, TDFG and his cronies have to be sweating bullets.

Thank you, President Biden for not giving Executive Privilege to TDFG regarding that day.

NQAS

(10,749 posts)
15. No
Thu May 19, 2022, 06:27 PM
May 2022

The word bombshell should be banned on DU.

If nothing happens, it’s not a bombshell; it’s a dud.

And if something happens, it’s still not a bombshell. It’s a natural progression based on the evidence.

A bombshell would be that there’s no evidence to support an indictment.

But let’s just stop using that word.

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
32. Me too. A bombshell is what's left when the bomb has already exploded.
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:44 PM
May 2022

Hyperbole serves no purpose for people who cherish truth.

Bernardo de La Paz

(60,320 posts)
36. Yes, "bombshell" is too much hyperobole, but it is not an exploded casing
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:08 PM
May 2022

It is not the empty casing of an exploded bomb. A bombshell is a shell with an explosive. The "bomb" part has dropped away and hence "shelling" and "heavy shelling of Mariupol", etc.

Gunpowder is a low explosive, meaning it will not create a concussive, brisant explosion unless it is contained, as in a modern-day pipe bomb or pressure cooker bomb. Early grenades were hollow cast-iron balls filled with gunpowder, and "shells" were similar devices designed to be shot from artillery in place of solid cannonballs ("shot"). Metonymically, the term "shell", from the casing, came to mean the entire munition.

In a gunpowder-based shell, the casing was intrinsic to generating the explosion, and thus had to be strong and thick. Its fragments could do considerable damage, but each shell broke into only a few large pieces. Further developments led to shells which would fragment into smaller pieces. The advent of high explosives such as TNT removed the need for a pressure-holding casing, so the casing of later shells only needs to contain the munition, and, if desired, to produce shrapnel. The term "shell," however, was sufficiently established that it remained as the term for such munitions.


https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Shell_%28projectile%29

 

jaxexpat

(7,794 posts)
39. It was cool imagery though.
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:25 PM
May 2022

The idea of pieces of exploded metal which are all that remain of a malevolent power, exhausted, rendered impotent. Thanks for the clarification, senor de La Paz.

 

Silent3

(15,909 posts)
33. I'd consider it a "bombshell" if a significant portion of the population acted like they gave a fuck
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:52 PM
May 2022

Alas, in that regard, I think bombshells have ceased to exist, or to even be possible, in the realm of Republican scandals and outright crimes.

LudwigPastorius

(14,725 posts)
47. "The word bombshell should be banned on DU."
Thu May 19, 2022, 11:50 PM
May 2022

So, I guess calling a pending information drop an "ultra-mega-pschyo-stunning-supernova" would be right out, eh?

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
4. I wonder how many of the photos will show Trump talking on the phone
Thu May 19, 2022, 05:48 PM
May 2022

when the doctored call logs show no calls for over 7 hours. If they have photos, I wonder if there might just be some video as well. I sure hope so, it would be quite interesting to watch.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
7. Or photos of all of them watching it happen on a bigscreen
Thu May 19, 2022, 05:58 PM
May 2022

..in the oval office, applauding, high-fiving each other, laughing, like the biggest party of the century.

Photos don't lie..

Eyeball_Kid

(7,604 posts)
35. There exists a published photo
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:58 PM
May 2022

Of Trumpy-Boy in a room with his inner circle watching the TV during the storming of the Capitol. But there are probably hundreds more.

 

Budi

(15,325 posts)
37. There must be more. Laughing & whoopin it up, as the US Capitol is under siege
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:13 PM
May 2022

Everyone at the party needs to go down hard.

Photos documented in the Congressional Record forever & ever.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
8. Got a link to these photos that show trump was calling shots from WH? Would think
Thu May 19, 2022, 05:58 PM
May 2022

those photos, security tapes, etc., have been reviewed a year or more ago by the Committee, DOJ, thousands of investigative journalist wannabees, etc. And would have reported it to DOJ if they found Loudermilk -- or some other GOPer -- with proudboyz day before insurrectionist.

Suspect DOJ investigators looked at them too. If there had been something like that, doubt the DOJ would have held back going after Loudermilk.

In any event, should be easy to prove or disprove.

Bev54

(13,431 posts)
12. I am not sure when they were released but I expect they were in with
Thu May 19, 2022, 06:09 PM
May 2022

the documents that Biden had released with no privilege. There have been drops of documents at different times.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
19. You think Committee, DOJ, FBI, 1000s of Woodward/Bernstein wannabes, didn't try to review photos?
Thu May 19, 2022, 06:37 PM
May 2022
 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
28. And you have no proof there is anything in those photos other than trump looking stupid in WH.
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:10 PM
May 2022

We keep looking though. I'm hopeful the Committee will come up with something beyond more and more evidence trump is unfit for office. But, I have my doubts so far.

ShazzieB

(22,591 posts)
38. In a word: yes.
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:24 PM
May 2022

Yes, I definitely ask myself that from time to time. Not constantly, but every so often, there's something that sets off my trolldar.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
41. Do you ever read posts anywhere on internet that you wonder if people
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:40 PM
May 2022

didn’t just copy or accept something with no evidence other than it was on internet?

I despise trump as much as anyone, but not accepting everything I read especially when I think a voter backlash will occur if there is no hard evidence to many of the allegations. “You know he did it,” is not evidence.

lefthandedskyhook

(1,180 posts)
52. Precisely
Fri May 20, 2022, 11:10 AM
May 2022

Although our courts are very very broken, standards of evidence remain on the books and must be followed. Our entire legal system needs a health upgrade, especially the so called Supreme Court

SledDriver

(2,122 posts)
9. The fact that the Capitol was attacked and there was no effort
Thu May 19, 2022, 06:01 PM
May 2022

to evacuate the POTUS to a secure location tells you everything you need to know about who planned and carried out the attack.

cilla4progress

(26,525 posts)
11. Well, this was what
Thu May 19, 2022, 06:08 PM
May 2022

I was getting at. Like the picture of them watching it on a big screen from inside an awning.

But blow by blow from the WH would be some white gold!

jcgoldie

(12,046 posts)
25. The one under the tent with all the Trumps..
Thu May 19, 2022, 06:58 PM
May 2022

If thats what you are referring to , was before his speech. Whats missing is evidence of what he was doing during the insurrection.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
18. Think Capitol is 1.8 miles from WH. Not sure that would be perceived a threat. But who knows?
Thu May 19, 2022, 06:34 PM
May 2022

SledDriver

(2,122 posts)
30. The Secret Service doesn't mess around
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:27 PM
May 2022

When 9/11 happened they got W back on AF1 and in the air. The attacks were in NYC and he was in FL at the time.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
40. A bunch of imbeciles climbing walls and terrorists flying planes aren't
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:25 PM
May 2022

exactly same.

But, yeah, I’m sure officials in WH weren’t overly concerned about trump loving insurrectionists a couple of miles away. And it’s not like trump didn’t have plenty of security.

Response to fightforfreedom (Original post)

 

Chainfire

(17,757 posts)
27. Perhaps, ten years from now, all star, major motion picture will be made about the events
Thu May 19, 2022, 07:06 PM
May 2022

Young people leaving the theater after viewing will be saying, "Wow, why was he never arrested and tried?"

Shipwack

(3,065 posts)
42. This would be sweet justice...
Thu May 19, 2022, 08:43 PM
May 2022

Trump screwed over the official White House photographer by taking the pictures she was planning on using in her book and using them in his own photography book. If she could provide photographic evidence to be used against him...

::chef's kiss::

Report: Trump Ripped Off His Own White House Photographer, ’Cause That’s Just the Kind of Dick He Is

EndlessWire

(8,103 posts)
49. That's great
Fri May 20, 2022, 12:07 AM
May 2022

but where does it say that he had to do anything at all? Sure, we can discredit him and show that he did nothing to protect our institutions and the Capitol, but I'll bet there is no law that says he had to do anything. I want to know who turned alarms off, who gave up blueprints, who opened locked doors, who called whom.

Before you say that I am a troll, I just want to do my daily diatribe and tell you how much I HATE Trump and Repubs and wish they would all crawl back under the rocks out of which they came. But, I look at this news not as some evidentiary smoking gun, but more of a backbone upon which to build the rest of the story. You really can't proceed without it. But, even though we can point to it and show people pResidential malfeasance, I don't think it in and of itself means much.

What I am saying is, I want evidence that Trump organized, requested, facilitated, authorized, etc. etc. And, in view of what the USSC is doing these days, I just will believe an indictment when I see it.

Justice matters.

(9,787 posts)
51. There is an Oath to "faithfully execute the Office" or something...
Fri May 20, 2022, 11:05 AM
May 2022

That must include to protect and defend the Congress from ANY criminal attack, either foreign or domestic...

The infamous date was January 20, 2017...

To enjoy watching any attack and doing nothing to try to stop it (even going as far as to tweet accusations of cowardice by the V.P. so the insurrectionists chanted "hang mike pence" over and over while they broke in) is not in that Oath.

 

fightforfreedom

(4,913 posts)
54. The committee has the evidence.
Fri May 20, 2022, 11:45 AM
May 2022

Not doing anything is evidence he wanted it to happen. All the evidence leading up to that day showed he wanted to over turn the election. He knew he lost, we have that evidence. I don't know why some people can't see how overwhelming the evidence is.

When the hearings start that will change.

MadameButterfly

(4,039 posts)
55. Yeah, really
Fri May 20, 2022, 01:00 PM
May 2022

These photos are a big deal and WILL help show what Trump was up to on Jan.6.

Hard to get excited when he's gotten away with more than anyone could imagine, but he'll get away with it until he doesn't anymore.

The MAGA folks and their crooked representatives will require a level of proof never needed before (they would say the Nixon tapes were a hoax) but I believe Jamie Raskin and co. understand the task at hand and are equal to it.

It took this long with Watergate.

2Gingersnaps

(1,000 posts)
56. The really funny thing is this is probably the White House Photographer TFG ripped off
Fri May 20, 2022, 01:15 PM
May 2022

She had a book deal like most White House photographers get, the former guy held it up, and then released her photographs himself, so he would profit instead of her. Because what is new with the jerk?

Totally tragic that her photos would help incriminate the asshat!

59. The committee should subpoena the WH photographer to learn what she knows.
Fri May 20, 2022, 05:29 PM
May 2022

The photographer maintains a "fly on the wall" presence in the course of performing her duties, so she's in a unique position to testify about who was present and what each person said while she was working.

The WH photographer works for us, not Trump. Her testimony is essential to filling in the details of the seven hour gap in the "official record" on that day.

While they are at it, subpoena the WH cooks and staff to testify what they heard and saw on that day.

Just a thought.

Novara

(6,115 posts)
57. I'm guessing not a few of the photos will show him on the phone ...
Fri May 20, 2022, 01:23 PM
May 2022

... during the 7-hour gap in the phone records.

YoshidaYui

(45,415 posts)
58. Trump watched in glee that he
Fri May 20, 2022, 03:58 PM
May 2022

Had started the Insurrection and all the damage done on the US Capital. They were doing this in Trump’s name, like a cult would. They are dangerous to democracy.

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