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Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
Sat May 21, 2022, 10:56 PM May 2022

Exactly what would you recommend that President Biden do to turn his negatives

around? Just read his approval rating was at 39. That means lots of Democrats have fled. I don't think "trust him" , "trust them" will cut it right now, do you?

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Exactly what would you recommend that President Biden do to turn his negatives (Original Post) Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 OP
Harp on union building all the time. Have three messages and repeat, repeat, applegrove May 2022 #1
But we have no orchestrated repeat, repeat, repeat. Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #5
Well we Democrats do not wholly own a TV network. The networks who are applegrove May 2022 #8
I misunderstood... Thought you meant that OUR approach Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #34
I've been told by Party leadership that a big problem is the WH Comms team... brooklynite May 2022 #36
Did they give a reason for that? betsuni May 2022 #39
Interesting. I'm not in touch with any "party leadership" lol, but I've suspected the same. BlackSkimmer May 2022 #56
reptiliQans will end your SS and Medicare benefit payments, they will run your life, sprinkleeninow May 2022 #11
This message was self-deleted by its author sprinkleeninow May 2022 #12
I think that instead of picking on Biden we need to pick on the GOP Tumbulu May 2022 #2
That's a great dilemma. "Promote"versus "they are so horrible" Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #7
I hope we Dems can convince voters of what we are for. LakeArenal May 2022 #23
Nothing can be done because the media against him is huge and incessant NewHendoLib May 2022 #3
That's really interesting. So you think that the sole reason Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #10
Fox news, hate radio. You don't understand propaganda NewHendoLib May 2022 #16
I think media reports for ratings. LakeArenal May 2022 #25
Exactly! As a business, they are driven to show both sides! Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #57
I think it happens because the media is owned by fascists. I don't believe their "polls" either. onecaliberal May 2022 #26
If so... What can be done?? Nada?:( Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #35
Get gas prices down to January 2020 level at140 May 2022 #4
Gas is a biggie plus cost of food womanofthehills May 2022 #51
I agree. Rents should not be controlled by larger corporations at140 May 2022 #58
Ignore the polls dweller May 2022 #6
So you're saying that 39% approval in a poll translates Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #13
I remember Michael Cohen saying dweller May 2022 #22
Yeah I get the manipulation although 538 Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #27
I believe 81 million dweller May 2022 #30
Ok, check, the biggest problem is bogus polling. Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #32
Biden has a few years. Concentrate on midterms. I get Biden factors into that. Hoyt May 2022 #9
Yes. Trying to understand it too :) Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #15
I'd say he needs to walk om water DBoon May 2022 #14
Yep... All media's fault!!! Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #17
This NewHendoLib May 2022 #18
Democrats have fled? Really...well you can't fix stupid I suppose...same old same old. Demsrule86 May 2022 #19
I don't know how much Biden won by in 2020? Just assumed Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #29
In my mind.... Hire a PR firm asap. Go on a retreat with Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #20
Take names n kick ass Deuxcents May 2022 #21
Stop committing unforced errors. RoeVWade May 2022 #24
There isn't much that can be done . If we lose than we will lose as we have done before JI7 May 2022 #28
The forces that control much of his favorability are mostly out of his hands andym May 2022 #31
+1. Great analysis!!! Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #33
I've been thinking of something like fireside chats all along. KY_EnviroGuy May 2022 #37
If it's still 39% in the fall then I'll panic liberalmediaaddict May 2022 #38
MESSAGE CRAFTING AND MESSAGE DISCIPLINE Grasswire2 May 2022 #40
You're a screamer! Lol. Agree on the people who Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #43
If you know those Rove and Bannon strategies on getting coverage Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #44
Accept Russia's surrender. Anything else is frosting on the cake. nt usonian May 2022 #41
Do you think that could ever happen? Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #46
Putin goes ka-put-in. usonian May 2022 #47
No, it sounded perfect. So you are sayng if Putin goes to ka-Putin Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #50
Hot off the speculative press --- He almost gone! usonian May 2022 #53
We have lots of blame to throw around, but we forget... TreasonousBastard May 2022 #42
And much of the population doesn't devote any time to Laura PourMeADrink May 2022 #45
One does not have to like Biden to vote for all Democrats. And consider the alternative! nt Samrob May 2022 #48
Kick Demsrule86 May 2022 #49
I think he needs to make a national address about DemocraticPatriot May 2022 #52
There's not much he can do, because his negatives are mostly gas and inflation related Polybius May 2022 #54
Look where the poll #s are low and address it, Hint; the answer isn't among MAGA uponit7771 May 2022 #55

applegrove

(131,305 posts)
1. Harp on union building all the time. Have three messages and repeat, repeat,
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:02 PM
May 2022

repeat the 3 ideas. 1) unions 2) Republicans plant to sunset ss and Medicare 3) womens' health and access to abortion.

Just a stab but Neil Degrass Tyson did a talk on the three types of reality: personal, political and objective. Political reality can be a cult or approach objective reality. The key is to repeat, repeat, repeat. Don't worry about boring the well educated. They are voting for Democrats anyhow.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
5. But we have no orchestrated repeat, repeat, repeat.
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:07 PM
May 2022

Just curious who do you think, specifically, is not pushing or organizing voices correctly?

applegrove

(131,305 posts)
8. Well we Democrats do not wholly own a TV network. The networks who are
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:13 PM
May 2022

reality based may be more interested in keeping intelligent viewership than repeat, repeat, repeat.

 

brooklynite

(96,882 posts)
36. I've been told by Party leadership that a big problem is the WH Comms team...
Sun May 22, 2022, 12:35 AM
May 2022

They don’t think it’s vAluable to Biden and Harris out front to push the Democratic message.

 

BlackSkimmer

(51,308 posts)
56. Interesting. I'm not in touch with any "party leadership" lol, but I've suspected the same.
Mon May 23, 2022, 06:34 AM
May 2022


Not good.

sprinkleeninow

(22,228 posts)
11. reptiliQans will end your SS and Medicare benefit payments, they will run your life,
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:16 PM
May 2022

they will ruin your life, they will take America back to the stone age. If you are moderately happy with your life now, it will change for the worse.

Shrub flew around the country w/the proposal to fund SS using the stock market/equities. The seniors shut him down.

Response to applegrove (Reply #1)

Tumbulu

(6,624 posts)
2. I think that instead of picking on Biden we need to pick on the GOP
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:02 PM
May 2022

And regularly point out that he has had to build the executive branch up from the criminal intentional destruction of our federal government by that party.

Stop worrying about being defensive and go offensive.

We are so damned lucky to have Biden as President and the incredible talent that he has brought with him.

We must attack them and with ferocity.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
7. That's a great dilemma. "Promote"versus "they are so horrible"
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:10 PM
May 2022

Guess we all need to think about it personally. Are we more influenced by what we're for or what we are against?

LakeArenal

(29,949 posts)
23. I hope we Dems can convince voters of what we are for.
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:32 PM
May 2022

Everybody gets what party is against….everything.

NewHendoLib

(61,742 posts)
3. Nothing can be done because the media against him is huge and incessant
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:03 PM
May 2022

and because of that, a cult has been solidified.

It doesn't matter what great things he does (as he already has) - it will not be fairly reported.

We are in uncharted territory.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
10. That's really interesting. So you think that the sole reason
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:15 PM
May 2022

For low approvals is because the media calls him out too much?

I always think that you need an orchestrated cheerleading presence to appear. Like isn't the media always pretty much begging for people to be on and speak their case? Or not?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
57. Exactly! As a business, they are driven to show both sides!
Mon May 23, 2022, 08:04 PM
May 2022

or they will fold. Long gone is the idea that you hold the fire to power for the truth. Because realistically you can not keep your doors open!

For those who look to a legitimate pure news source. Are ..there any left? NYT or Washington Post or LA times or NPR? No one even us probably agree on that. Let alone the masses. They all have to make money or they will fold

 

onecaliberal

(36,594 posts)
26. I think it happens because the media is owned by fascists. I don't believe their "polls" either.
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:34 PM
May 2022

womanofthehills

(10,797 posts)
51. Gas is a biggie plus cost of food
Sun May 22, 2022, 10:32 PM
May 2022

I wish he could do something about Blackrock and other corporations buying up homes so young people can no longer afford to buy. They are also buying up apartments and rents are all up $100 to $200 dollars for my family and friends. Our NM gov just gave everyone an Economic Relief Payment - $250 in May and $250 again in August. He might do something like that.

at140

(6,216 posts)
58. I agree. Rents should not be controlled by larger corporations
Wed May 25, 2022, 05:28 PM
May 2022

No one should be allowed to own more than 100 rental units.
Because for lower middle class and poor people apartment rental is a necessity.
Blackrock owning 100,000 rental units is approaching monopoly.

dweller

(28,030 posts)
22. I remember Michael Cohen saying
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:29 PM
May 2022

that polls were manipulated by nefarious means to put Pisswig in the best light …

Polls are a based on a fraction, extrapolated to a general consensus … reality is different when the masses meet to lodge their ‘opinion’ for the final say so



✌🏻


 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
27. Yeah I get the manipulation although 538
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:38 PM
May 2022

vets.

So you seriously think President biden's approval is well over 50%, and not 39.

For the many years I've been following politics, all my life, I have never really noticed a grand divergence between the polls and the outcome. And I'm talking like over 10%. Absolutely believe they rigged on a smaller scale.

dweller

(28,030 posts)
30. I believe 81 million
Sun May 22, 2022, 12:00 AM
May 2022

is greater than 70 million … and the polls up to Election Day 2020 were not the final result.

I’ve not been polled once in my 50 years of voting …

YMMV

✌🏻

DBoon

(24,839 posts)
14. I'd say he needs to walk om water
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:20 PM
May 2022

but the media would them criticize him for not wearing shoes

Demsrule86

(71,524 posts)
19. Democrats have fled? Really...well you can't fix stupid I suppose...same old same old.
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:25 PM
May 2022

Because of course, Republicans do a much better job and all This is why we can't have nice things

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
29. I don't know how much Biden won by in 2020? Just assumed
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:44 PM
May 2022

That if it was like 52-48... And approval down to 39 you've lost some Dems?? You're saying they are all Republicans??? Huh?

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
20. In my mind.... Hire a PR firm asap. Go on a retreat with
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:27 PM
May 2022

Mad Ave, Hollywood big money types, big $ Dem donors, statisticians, Dem pollsters, Dem advisors come up with a PR plan.

Deuxcents

(26,201 posts)
21. Take names n kick ass
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:29 PM
May 2022

Oil n gas companies are gouging us. Three or four manufacturers need
Some competition. Billionaires need to pay their fair share of taxes. Disinformation needs to be called out at first light. Unions built the middle class so get that infrastructure going at full speed. We are a democracy w/ secular laws.. for starters

RoeVWade

(875 posts)
24. Stop committing unforced errors.
Sat May 21, 2022, 11:33 PM
May 2022

Things you can't do much about are one thing, but for instance someone should have anticipated a reaction to releasing the "disinformation governance board" letting opponents define it because they didn't do a proper explanation. Aside from the fact, the name itself should have been more carefully decided.

andym

(6,054 posts)
31. The forces that control much of his favorability are mostly out of his hands
Sun May 22, 2022, 12:06 AM
May 2022

That being the economy: inflation and a potential economic slowdown as the Fed fights inflation, and interest rates rise. Key events that could help would be 1) Russia giving up its war in Ukraine, which could lead to an end to sanctions and lowered oil prices, 2) China giving up their zero Covid tolerance which could help end the supply chain dysfunction, and 3) Fed succeeds in controlling inflation by selling bonds, raising interest rates and slowing the economy to a soft landing.

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,773 posts)
37. I've been thinking of something like fireside chats all along.
Sun May 22, 2022, 12:41 AM
May 2022

And, what happened to the old practice of periodic presidential statements on network TV like Ike, JFK and LBJ used to do?

I would also invade radio stations with PSAs purely as informative statements on healthcare, the economy, etc.

President Biden's easy, quiet demeanor does not lend itself to showman entertainment spots like Americans now prefer. So, we need to change the way we get their attention.

KY

liberalmediaaddict

(998 posts)
38. If it's still 39% in the fall then I'll panic
Sun May 22, 2022, 12:45 AM
May 2022

A lot can happen between now and November.

Biden is getting crucified because of a lot of factors that are completely out of his control: inflation, gas prices, the war in Ukraine, Republican extremism, Manchin/Sinema, right wing media, etc...

If this administration's luck finally changes our chances of keeping Congress in the mid-terms will vastly improve.
People vote according to their wallets. As long as prices are high Democrats are going to get all the blame. And many Americans polled still have the delusional idea that Republicans are better at handling the economy.

The Biden camp does need to continue to point out exactly what Americans will get if they vote Republicans back in power. And beat that message like a drum. The "both parties are the same" crowd needs a wake up call.















Grasswire2

(13,849 posts)
40. MESSAGE CRAFTING AND MESSAGE DISCIPLINE
Sun May 22, 2022, 01:29 AM
May 2022

Sorry for screaming.

This week, we heard that DNC was considering hiring someone new to manage messaging and there was screaming throughout the social media. I've forgotten who it was, under consideration, but not someone thought of as particularly skilled.

From the era of Karl Rove, Republicans have excelled at getting the daily message delivered to anyone who might be in front of a mic, and hammering it home.

Karl Rove: "Seize the daily news narrative by 5 p.m. each day."

Bannon: "Flood the Zone with sh*t."

That strategy works. The press follows the crumbs, thankful for the quotes and stories.

Dem messaging is all over the place. Schiff is skilled at it. So is Lieu. But not many others. And there is no apparent coordinated effort to pound a principle home.

AND......none of the messaging appears to be hitting Republicans on CORRUPTION, on CRIMES, on the soft spots.

Most of it seems to be of the "Look forward, not back" tone.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
43. You're a screamer! Lol. Agree on the people who
Sun May 22, 2022, 06:58 PM
May 2022

get messages out - but in my mind, just agreeing with all of us doesn't cut it. Kinda reminds me of Rob Reiner... Good Dem, but posting "I can't believe they did this I can't believe they did that" for almost 6 years now? But never saw, "Okay, I am organizing a group of 50 actors who are willing to donate x amount of money and we will have creative generic ads running on CNN once a week." You know something like that - something that is an action vs. just complaining like we all do.

It's going to take a true expert. Brilliant and aware and savvy. But even better a brain trust of people.

Honestly I don't really understand why no one has figured that out especially in the trump era. The guy who was impeached twice, tried to overthrow the government, tried to bribe a foreign government for personal gain, paid off a girlfriend, and was a proven criminal for withholding valuable health information to the public is tied with our great guy?!!!!?!???? Okay so I am sounding like Rob Reiner

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
44. If you know those Rove and Bannon strategies on getting coverage
Sun May 22, 2022, 07:00 PM
May 2022

Why don't other people or do they? Boy it would be cool to be able to ask a bunch of them.

usonian

(24,297 posts)
47. Putin goes ka-put-in.
Sun May 22, 2022, 08:24 PM
May 2022

After that, who knows?

So, he put loyalists in charge.
What's there to be loyal to?
There is nobody "tanned, rested and ready" (except you know who, and he ain't Russian)

Oligarchs don't seem right now to have any power.
They might be building alliances to maintain power, but

What if the REAL communists/socialists decide otherwise?

But the military!
Well, they're decimated and OUT OF THE COUNTRY.
Nukes completely useless!
(thinks of "The Mouse that Roared&quot

Neither Marx nor Lenin dreamt of the obscene concentration of wealth Putin has created.
It's not like the works of Marx and Lenin are banned!!! Draw your own conclusion.
Glorious People's Revolution?


And then there's China....
Disclaimer: I am not a historian.
Sorry if this is a bit disjointed. It's pure speculation and I could use a drink.

 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
50. No, it sounded perfect. So you are sayng if Putin goes to ka-Putin
Sun May 22, 2022, 10:23 PM
May 2022

It will help Biden. That would be outstanding

usonian

(24,297 posts)
53. Hot off the speculative press --- He almost gone!
Mon May 23, 2022, 12:10 AM
May 2022
https://democraticunderground.com/100216717092

Putin will be in a sanatorium and out of power by 2023, former British intelligence chief predicts

Kelsey Vlamis
Sun, May 22, 2022 at 5:37 PM

* Former MI6 head Sir Richard Dearlove said Wednesday Putin could be out of power by next year.

* He said Putin will likely enter a long-term medical facility and not return to power once he is out.

* His predictions line up with other reports of Putin losing power and receiving medical treatment.

(more)

TreasonousBastard

(43,049 posts)
42. We have lots of blame to throw around, but we forget...
Sun May 22, 2022, 01:35 AM
May 2022

that things like the media are SUPPOSED to attack the powers-that be. it is their fundamental function. In a democracy, we are supposed to have the brains to figure truth from bullshit. Plato had a lot to say about that, and he was not very encouraging.

I heard that Presidents were customarily limited to two terms because Washington was upset about all the trashing he got and refused to go through the crap he would have had to if he went for a third term.

Hearst's "news" operation almost singlehandedly got us into the Spanish-American war.

After dealing with Stalin, FDR, Montgomery other egos while fighting Germany. Ike developed some extraordinary skills to head off the attacks from all sides, and maintain a relatively successful Presidency. Having Cronkite at the time helped more than we know.

I have found that Democrats spend an awful lot of time in he circular shootouts and too often don't set sights on the real targets, depending upon demographics and other sideshows to get votes. And a lot of them seem to miss the surety of the Dixiecrats and big city corruption.

We forget that the voting population is essentially selfish, and votes for goodies for itself, as much as anything else. We have to find a way to sell our programs to that selfish population.




 

Laura PourMeADrink

(42,770 posts)
45. And much of the population doesn't devote any time to
Sun May 22, 2022, 07:07 PM
May 2022

who is leading the country. There is so much noise everywhere. How do you cut through that? That's what FG did. Of course for the worst. But he keeps his hatred spew on a 3rd grade comprehension level.

Will be interesting to see how 1-6 hearings go.

 

DemocraticPatriot

(5,410 posts)
52. I think he needs to make a national address about
Sun May 22, 2022, 10:43 PM
May 2022

what the administration is doing to combat inflation---

and also detail every vote where Republicans voted against the interests of the country, on the economy and elsewhere...



And baby formula shortage-- how Democrats advanced a bill to try to solve that problem, but many Republicans voted against it-- after blaming President Biden for the problem, they seek to prevent any solution---- because what GQP really wants, is for this country to suffer, until they can take power again... and they will not have any solutions at that point, either, they only want to have power over all of us, to exert their far-right social agenda!

The GQP only care about "babies" until their birth is "forced", and after that, they don't give a damn! The GQP has LONG been in favor of starving children-- because 'starving children' are unlikely to vote for Republicans-- if they are fortunate enough to survive childhood to voting age!


Many Democrats may be voting "disapproval" because we have been unable to do many of the things that we had hoped to do-- because of the way the government is structured, i.e. "the filibuster"--- but that does not mean they are ready to vote for Trumpists or fascists, who offer no solutions whatsoever....

We need to hammer on these issues, and hammer on Republicans as politcians who do not care about your problems...

Polybius

(21,683 posts)
54. There's not much he can do, because his negatives are mostly gas and inflation related
Mon May 23, 2022, 12:20 AM
May 2022

A President gets too much blame when they are bad, and too much credit when they are good.

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