"The Unborn" are a convenient group of people to advocate for."

[kpete]

They never make demands of you; the are morally uncomplicated, unlike the incarcerated, addicted, or the chronically poor, they don’t resent your condescension or complain that you are not politically correct; unlike widows, they don’t ask you to question patriarchy; unlike orphans, they don’t need money, education, or childcare; unlike aliens, they don’t bring all that racial, cultural, and religious baggage that you dislike; they allow you to feel good about yourself without any work at creating or maintaining relationships; and when they are born, you can forget about them, because they cease to be unborn. It’s almost as if, by being born, they have died to you. You can love the unborn and advocate for them without substantially challenging your own wealth, power, or privilege, without re-imagining social structures, apologizing, or making reparations to anyone. They are, in short, the perfect people to love if you want to claim you love Jesus but actually dislike people who breathe.

Prisoners? Immigrants? The sick? The poor? Widows? Orphans? All the groups that are specifically mentioned in the Bible? They all get thrown under the bus for the unborn.

Dave Barnhart
June 25, 2018
https://www.goodreads.com/quotes/10357009-the-unborn-are-a-convenient-group-of-people-to-advocate
https://www.dailykos.com/stories/2022/5/22/2099340/-Abbreviated-Pundit-Roundup-A-rant-about-fairy-tales#comment_83636425

[FakeNoose]

1. I'm saying that pregnant women are entitled to vote twice

Why is no one listening to my proposal?

Any pregnant woman (by choice or not) should be permitted to vote once for herself and once for her unborn baby. They're telling us that unborn babies have rights too, so how can it be a problem? This would crystallize a lot of RWNJ misconceptions, I'm sure.

[jimfields33]

5. Good point if you carried for 18 years.

[Hugin]

6. Well, aren't they really?

At over $250,000 per it would seem they are.

[ck4829]

2. Maybe it's time for the unborn to stop being convenient to advocate for

[2naSalit]

4. Exactly.

[2naSalit]

3. Because...

Nasty women, I guess.

[Novara]

7. THE UNBORN ARE NOT PEOPLE

Don't fall into their narrative. Choose better language.

They are not people until they are medically viable. That means 24 weeks, or SIX MONTHS into a pregnancy. Until then they technically are non-viable fetuses.

[niyad]

8. I love to irritate the woman-hating gestational slavers by pointing out that fetuses

are, until viability, biological parasites since they need a host to exist. ahhh, the sputtering, red-faced grrrrrrr.

[Novara]

10. Oh me too

And calling it a parasite does make them sputter in rage. But it's exactly what it is.

My Mom used to say, "Any animal can reproduce," which also set them sputtering. It's just biology and we're animals. The glorification and fetus fetishists and motherhood gets on my nerves, man. It's just biology.

[myccrider]

14. I love what your mom said!

I was arguing about abortion on the internet recently (yeah, I know ) and someone I’d been "discussing" the issue with posted a question (paraphrased) "who is the uterus for, you or the baby?" My response was that most plants and animals have organs that evolved to be dedicated to reproduction and aren’t sooper-dooper special or to be revered. Plus it’s MY uterus and it’s my choice what to do with it!

It is just biology, not some sacred occurence.

They never responded in the thread again.

[Novara]

15. Excellent

We all need to push back. Reproduction is a natural thing that all animals and plants do and it does not make one special. Nor is it anyone else's business.

I remember when my first MIL was pushing us to have kids. I told her, "My uterus is my business."

"Who is the uterus for?" Seriously? All animals have reproductive organs. Only as humans, WE can control whether or not to use them. Who is sperm for?

[Hugh_Lebowski]

12. It's a quote from the original speech from a reverend somewhere

That was the speakers word choice

[harumph]

13. It's a rhetorical term (people) used by Dave Barnhart

to make a point - and it's well stated. It's used to form a counterpoint to
the way "pro-life" people think about the unborn which is to over value
embryos and fetuses at the expense of the born and underprivileged.
Barnhart is in no way pushing an anti-choice narrative - but rather
speaking to the hypocrisy of so0called pro-lifers. You get that right?

[lindysalsagal]

9. Same thing can be said for invisible sky gods....

but that doesn't stop anyone.

[JI7]

11. What they are advocating for is control of women. Nothing else.