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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSanFran silly boy archbishop declared a Crusade/Inquisition on PELOSI, got communion elsewhere
My local wingnut who always harped on if-you're-Pro-Choice-you-ain't-a-Catholic once told me to join some Presbyterian or Methodist outfit.
(SIDEBAR: The farmworkers/migrants deserted the Cath into the evangelicals decades ago on the basis of Rich Church, statue-worship, virgin was a ***. )
Uh, I happen to believe that values/principles/beliefs are born and permanent, not switched around. Besides that I don't hew to any "religious" mindset. Although Mister NIETSCHE said everybody should examine themselves (he was a Classics/Greek professor, shades of Davis HANSEN to a much lesser degree) and figure out what is real and good for yourself NOT what you were BORN with, but then he also denounced FOLLOWERS, so I dont FOLLOW. And (EMERSON? no, WHITMAN) said, I contradict myself fine.
So the archbishop of SanFran declared he wont bestow communion on a lifelong, Catholic, Italian-American PELOSi on the basis of his medieval interpretation a Catholic point. Yea, my learned cousin taught me that the Pope has no jurisdiction over all the scattered bishops, that the Pope is *ONLY* a bishop himself, the Bishop of Rome.
So, the Pope has already bestowed the communion thing on PELOSI, and as seen below, she can get it in another jurisdiction. States rights, doncherno.
************QUOTE*******
Maya R. Cummings, Ph.D. @MayaRCummings According to @playbookdc
SPOTTED: Speaker NANCY PELOSI at the 9 a.m. Mass at Holy Trinity in Georgetown, where she was given communion.
**UNQUOTE*******
shrike3
(3,739 posts)UTUSN
(70,725 posts)shrike3
(3,739 posts)Local diocese has dinners for them, masses. Maybe it's just my area?
UTUSN
(70,725 posts)canetoad
(17,179 posts)I'd dob him in to the pope.
UTUSN
(70,725 posts)canetoad
(17,179 posts)UTUSN
(70,725 posts)Marius25
(3,213 posts)Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)But didn't all those who took part in the very first communion go on to betray the Christ guy shortly after that Passover meal?
And I imagine he might have had a little spidey sense of what they were about o do.
UTUSN
(70,725 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)He knew I was an Atheist.
But his friend's death had been a pretty brutal hit and run with evidence he had laid suffering in a ditch for hours.
I went with him and sat with him through a church service.
And then there was a communion offered at the end.
Of course I didn't go up to take it.
And then he outed me as an Atheist to his family and friends.
"You didn't have to take the communion you could have just walked up and received a blessing by the priest. You made me look bad by not walking up"
We were not friends after that day.
Walleye
(31,039 posts)alphafemale
(18,497 posts)I've been to Baptist funerals that turn into fire and brimstone come to Jesus camp meetings.
So this was tamer ish.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Really fucked up.
I would be so appreciative if a friend I knew to be an atheist came to be by my side, I can't even describe it...it was a great thing you did, and I'm sorry your friend didn't recognize it.
I've had non-Catholic Christian friends who attended mass for one reason or another (wedding, funeral, etc.) walk up for the blessing, but I would never expect it, especially if I know the person is atheist.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)And in an actual muddy river. Not one of those nice clean wading pool things.
I think he was really hoping he'd turn me.
LeftInTX
(25,515 posts)Priests rarely refuse communion to anyone and they KNOW the story many times.
Married after a divorce...
Knowing that someone is gay..
Couples living together...
Convicted felons
Convicted murderers..
Women who have had abortions
They all get communion.
I rarely hear of anyone being turned away...
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)Another mere mortal cannot see into the soul of another.
But the idea of people supposedly being sinless to take the body and blood of god into their mouth. sure
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)it's not really up to the parish priest anymore.
A priest could hold a private mass or he could go to her home/office and provide Communion there, but it would be against the orders of the archbishop, and could land the priest in hot water.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)He should be the one thrown out.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)and wouldn't want to be privy to any conversations or attempts at conversations that the archbishop had with Speaker Pelosi, I am unable to determine whether his statement is political showboating or not. If his statements about convos he had with her and his attempts to have further convos are true, then I would disagree that it's political showboating, but again, I have no idea what really happened.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)supposedly celibate that is
Get to have a voice in deciding what happens in a woman's body....EVER!
No man gets a vote in that.
Let alone dusty old supposedly celibate men.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)Abortion should absolutely be legal, safe, available, and affordable for any woman who wants one.
But from a religious perspective, any member of the clergy has a right to say these are the rules of this religion, and if you choose not to follow them, these are the consequences. Anyone who doesn't like those rules is free to leave that religion, as many have done.
alphafemale
(18,497 posts)The majority of Catholic bishops and the pope do not agree and he did this for political grandstanding and trying to crawl into a uterus.
SickOfTheOnePct
(7,290 posts)on whether he is politically grandstanding, since I wasn't there and don't know what was said between he and Speaker Pelosi.