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AZProgressive

(29,322 posts)
Mon May 23, 2022, 01:24 AM May 2022

Kyiv says giving up land to Russia would backfire

Ukraine’s lead negotiator has ruled out any ceasefire deal in which Kyiv would cede territory to Russia or allow Russian troops to remain on its land.

Such concessions would backfire as Russia would hit back harder after any break in fighting, said Mykhailo Podolyak, an adviser to Volodymyr Zelensky who is leading talks with Moscow.

“The war will not stop. It will just be put on pause for some time,” Mr Podolyak said in an interview with Reuters in the presidential office in Kyiv.

“They’ll start a new offensive, even more bloody and large-scale.”

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/europe/russia-ukraine-war-putin-generals-nuclear-weapons-latest-b2084920.html?utm_content=Echobox&utm_medium=Social&utm_campaign=Main&utm_source=Twitter#Echobox=1653283353

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CloudWatcher

(1,850 posts)
5. Giving up nukes appears to be a terrible idea
Mon May 23, 2022, 02:05 AM
May 2022

Not just Ukraine, remember what happened to Libya and Iraq after standing down from nuclear weapons development.

Is it any wonder Iran and North Korea are so intent on having them?


Amishman

(5,559 posts)
8. No, give them something - a very large bill at the end to rebuild Ukraine
Mon May 23, 2022, 06:44 AM
May 2022

Turning the Russian foreign reserves over to Ukraine is the absolute minimum

Irish_Dem

(47,273 posts)
9. Yes the US cannot be stuck with the entire bill to rebuild Ukraine.
Mon May 23, 2022, 07:11 AM
May 2022

Russia must pay for the rebuilding of Ukraine.

Takket

(21,610 posts)
7. This is the right call, unfortunately
Mon May 23, 2022, 06:22 AM
May 2022

Putin has proven he will honor no agreements and there is no amount of lying and propaganda he won’t disseminate to justify it.

He will use any concession to simply rebuild his forces so he can level Kyiv.

Lovie777

(12,315 posts)
10. Russia will not stop, maybe pause, but will never stop . .....
Mon May 23, 2022, 08:10 AM
May 2022

it wants all of Ukraine. Then the rest of Eastern Europe.

Russia had an agreement concerning Crimea which it broke with the attack of Feb. 24th.

Bayard

(22,128 posts)
11. Putin will not be satisfied with just a bite of the pie
Mon May 23, 2022, 12:15 PM
May 2022

He's a glutton.

From the beginning of this mess, I have not been able to get over these peaceful people, minding their own business, going about living their best lives, and the bully next door just couldn't stand it. I've had neighbors like that.



Ukraine should not give up one iota of their country. And that should include Crimea. I've never understood that one either.

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