I love the smell of flop-sweat in the morning ...

[NanceGreggs]

The smart folks are realizing that cooperating with the Jan/6 Committee is their best chance of survival.

They've finally come to the conclusion that the Jan/6 Committee has irrefutable evidence of their participation in trying to overthrow the US gov't, along with our democracy.

They're now willing to throw their "pResident" under the bus in order to save their own skins.

They're now aware that there will never be a re-elected "pResident Trump" who can pardon them for their crimes.

They now know that it's every man for himself, and that loyalty to Trump is a one-way street - and they're about to be left in a ditch on the losing side of a dead-end.

There's a road sign flashing up ahead: Last chance to save your own ass before the Jan/6 Committee nails it to the wall.

Number of people willing to go to prison in order to protect Trump? I'm betting on zero.

Of course, YMMV.

[Novara]

1. Got a citation for this?

"They're now willing to throw their "pResident" under the bus in order to save their own skins."

Because I'd LOVE to see proof of this.

[NanceGreggs]

5. Look at the people ...

... who adamantly refused to meet with the Jan/6 Committee - and are now talking to them.

[sop]

13. Did they spill their guts to the committee?

[NanceGreggs]

15. Did they not? n/t

[Novara]

46. In other words, no proof, just a hope

I'd love to see proof they're throwing him under the bus to save their own skins.

I don't doubt that SOMEONE would, because they're all self-centered assholes, but we have no proof anything on your wishlist has actually happened.

[NanceGreggs]

55. They're throwing him under the bus ...

... by showing up.

When the Committee started calling for witnesses, Trump decreed that his inner-circle sycophants refuse to cooperate. That held for a while - but over the past few weeks/months, Ivanka, Jared, Don Jr., Guilfoyle, Giuliani and more have shown up to speak their piece.

These are people who know or suspect that the Committee already has incriminating evidence on them, and now need to get ahead of what's known and provable.

"Trump specifically told me not to be here - but here I am" pretty much says it all.

[Novara]

58. You have no proof, only hope.

Look, I wish what you said was the truth but really, the absolute truth is that none of us knows any of that for a fact. We can only speculate. We are not present in those interviews. We have not read any of the transcripts of those interviews. Nothing from those interviews has even leaked to the public.

We will not find out if any of your wishlist is true unless those interviews are released, perhaps during the hearings. I hope you're right. But right now, since you have not been in the interviews as a witness, you do not know. Is that such a difficult concept?

To recap:

We have not been present for the interviews.

We have not read any interview transcripts.

None of the interviews has leaked to the public.


So this is speculation, not fact. Hopefully we'll find out they ARE throwing each other under the bus. I wouldn't put it past each one to do so in order to save his own ass.

[usaf-vet]

20. You don't have to look far I found this on DU's front door.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/1017737560

I'd say that is a pretty good indication... Crazy Rudy 9 hours.

[Magoo48]

23. If you're telling the truth, dose it take nine hours to spill it?

[Sentath]

26. Hillary testified for, what 11hrs?

[Magoo48]

32. The difference is, H was telling liars the truth they didn't want to hear.

Rudy is presumably telling the truth the committee wants to hear.

[usaf-vet]

27. If you spent 6 years making up lies in who knows how many states, nine hours should be a minimum.

He swore he would not testify. Trump's chances of being re-elected are getting slimmer and slimmer. This mean's the chance of a pardon are also fading away.

I think NanceGreggs is on target.

[Novara]

47. That's not proof

[Eliot Rosewater]

68. Fingers crossed. I have no hope that any of them will be indicted, let alone go to jail.

But fingers crossed.

I just did a thread about how Barr appears to have no worries about indictment for what was hundreds of acts of obstruction of justice and DeJoy has no worries, I guess, about losing his job.

Sick

[MiHale]

2. Amazingly great news! ...links?

[Wednesdays]

22. See reply #20, above. nt

[BlackSkimmer]

3. Who are these "smart folks" of whom you speak?

[NanceGreggs]

8. Do you really believe ...

... that Giuliani spent nine hours with the Jan/6 Committee saying "I don't know anything"?

[BlackSkimmer]

25. I'd actually believe just about anything of Giuliani.

I also don’t think of him as “smart.”

[Caliman73]

50. I agree. He used to be "smarter", but conservatism tends to sap your intelligence.

As a conservative, the curiosity that is necessary for learning tends to go away eventually. Can't be learning new information if your ideology is wedded to believing in a social and political order that was challenged significantly and eventually pushed out of relevance in from the 1600's to the last vestiges in the 1900's.

Giuliani is crafty, but mostly mentally damaged at this point.

[NanceGreggs]

66. Saving your own ass is "smart" ...

... in this context. It is not a measure of intelligence. I thought that much would be obvious.

[quakerboy]

65. Guiliani wouldnt know how to tell the truth.

Even if he wanted to. Hes not a man with much of a connection to reality.

I do hope that the j6 committee members underwent preperations before inviting him into the room, as i feel that it would be hard to spend 9 hours with him and not have some sort of lasting negative side effects.

[The Wizard]

4. Jail To The Chief

[malaise]

7. Nicely played

😀😀

[Ferrets are Cool]

6. The problem as I see it is that

I don't think any of them think they WILL go to prison. I sincerely hope they are dead wrong.

[NanceGreggs]

9. Does the phrase ...

... I'll spill my guts in exchange for immunity ring a bell?

[agingdem]

21. Rudy's screwed and he knows it..

Eastman, in his latest lawsuit to protect Heil Donald, 'fessed up to Donnie's hand written notes and direct involvement..Meadows was Coup Central...McCarthy couldn't keep his mouth shut..Jordan went all blathering amnesia when asked about Jordan/Donnie January 6 phone calls..Loudermilk went into tour denial mode until the J6 committee said "dude, we've got video"..and the rest of the "hey guys, let's conspire to overthrow an election and trash the Constitution" cast of co-conspirators are pooping their pants because they know they've been gotten...kissing Donnie's fat ass or gut-spilling to protect theirs?..gut-spilling for the win!

[calimary]

59. Several scumbuckets I'd like very much to see behind bars!

Permanently!!!

Eastman. Meadows. Jordan. Loudermilk. AND donald. And throw in McCarthy for good measure.

[Eyeball_Kid]

37. Or... I want to hang on to my position and gravitas for as long as possible,

so I'll plead the Fifth until my tongue cracks and stay intact for a few more years until the DOJ breaks a sweat and prosecutes.

[2naSalit]

11. +1

[niyad]

29. I think your last sentence has one word too many.

[Ferrets are Cool]

31. ...

[PJMcK]

56. I saw what you did there! (n/t)

[Walleye]

10. I want to see Meadows in the hot seat

[bdamomma]

34. I want

to see Bannon, and Miller to be in the hot seat. And all those the orange blob pardoned.

[Walleye]

36. And especially jacket off Jordan

[RainCaster]

41. IMO, jacket should be 2 words

He's become such a worshipper of fascism, that simply removing his jacket is no longer his primary behavior.

[Eyeball_Kid]

38. Ok, then. It won't matter until Meadows, et al, are

shitting and pissing in the same stainless steel device that gives them water to wash themselves in nice, cozy 8 x 10 ft luxury apartments.

[Walleye]

39. Well we know he won't be able to tell the truth under oath

Not that anybody is prosecuted for perjury anymore. Except Hillary Clinton’s former lawyer

[bucolic_frolic]

12. Bet the RNC/DNC bomb-placement suspect is sweating bullets

Not knowing if they've been ID'd. Whoever put that in motion too. Stay tuned.

[NanceGreggs]

14. The beauty part ...

... is how many people are sweating bullets while wondering what texts have been intercepted, what emails have been uncovered, what phone communications have been tracked.

No one knows what the Jan/6 Committee knows - and has the evidence to prove.

[callous taoboy]

16. I hope to hell you are right.

It's easy to understand how jaded we've become.

[MyOwnPeace]

17. I just hope

It’s not another ‘Mueller Report’ - we’re all ready for the ‘BIG EVENT’ - only to be left standing at the alter with broken dreams……..

[Mr.Bill]

60. The only thing that went wrong with the Mueller report

was Bill Barr being appointed AG. Different Sheriff now.

[MyOwnPeace]

62. Indeed, Barr was a primary 'agent'.....

but the opportunity for Mueller to 'respond' to Barr's actions - "Sorry, I'm retired - and done......"

And where was the 'response' to Barr's actions? Did ANY Democrats speak up/demand details?

What COULD have been an explosion was a dud - a windstorm that turned out to be a 'fart-in-the-wind.'

[Mr.Bill]

63. I said here when Mueller was appointed

that he was a member at a Trump Country Club and was more like Trump than he was like us. I also said we are in big trouble if we were putting the future of our country in the hands of republican FBI agents. But the nail in the coffin of the Mueller report was Barr. We have still not seen the full unredacted report.

[MyOwnPeace]

64. "We have still not seen the full unredacted report."

Interesting that you should point that out.
Let's count the number of DEMOCRATS demanding to see the report..........

[Paladin]

18. I hope to hell you're correct.

Extra credit for the use of "flop-sweat," a term that ought to see wider employment.

[PJMcK]

57. From the Miriam-Webster Dictionary

Flop sweat (n): nervous sweat (as of a performer) caused especially by the fear of failing.

[Tom Rinaldo]

19. The momentum has certainly shifted

To the extent that it is legally possible I think some of them are at least hedging their bets, cooperating to at least some extent while they keep reassessing their risks and options. Fewer are willing to strike a totally defiant stance.

[Baitball Blogger]

24. "They're now aware that there will never be a re-elected "pResident Trump" who can pardon them..."

Main reason they're coming forward.

[llmart]

28. I truly want to believe that you are correct on this...

if only because I want to regain some of my sense that we are still a nation that believes no one is above the law. I've become way too cynical in my senior years and I don't like it.

[niyad]

30. Spot on, as always.

[BobTheSubgenius]

33. There may be a very few who would roll the dice.

Not out of a sense of loyalty, but a deep fear of being relegated back to the nothing lives they had before. Again...YMMV.

[CentralMass]

35. The history of republicans in power being held accountable for their misdeeds is not encouraging.

[bluedigger]

40. Who are these "smart folks" of which you speak?

[BlackSkimmer]

43. Lol, exact question I asked down thread several hours ago!

Apparently the OP considers Giuliani to be one of these.

[bluedigger]

44. LOL. I missed it, obviously.

Still, I think the question bears repeating.

[BlackSkimmer]

49. AbsoLUTEly!

[dweller]

42. But but but

I thought the rude ghoul said he had “insurance”

Did his policy lapse ?!?
🤔




✌🏻

[hamsterjill]

45. Number of people willing to go to prison to protect Trump

I’m betting none go to prison. I believe they know the fix is in and they are arrogantly running out the clock. I honestly do hope that I’m wrong. I want to see them in leg shackles.

Giuliani could very well have spent nine hours uttering “I do not recall”. We don’t know. I believe that they all know that if they turn, they are as good as dead. They knew that when they first got in bed with Putin/Trump. The stakes really ARE that high in my view. I’m surprised that Michael Cohen is still alive in all honesty.

I do hope the hearings will be well organized and have some actual attorneys doing the questioning. Ruskin is awesome. It needs to be efficient, clear and concise without any room for bullshitting.

[BlackSkimmer]

48. I'll bet you are right.

The “nine hours” makes it more obvious to me that he was doing his usual double-talking, circular thinking, bullshitting, denying, obfuscating and nonsense spouting.

None will go to prison. I’d be happy to be wrong.

[Joinfortmill]

51. Let us hope.

[NBachers]

52. We sure could use Al Franken on this

[ForgedCrank]

53. This old song

again.
We've been waiting for 500 people to "flip", and countless accusations of crimes to be prosecuted and they haven't pulled off a single one yet. We've been hearing this since the day that ass first took office.
They've been investigating this January 6th thing now for what, a year?
I don't know if the people who are doing this work are incompetent, or if Trump is really that good at covering his tracks, but if they had the evidence, I would think after a year of this some charges would have been announced by now.
I'm not falling for this baloney anymore. Trump is gone, and we need to forget his damned name. That is the worst punishment that anyone could ever apply to him.
Moving on

[pirsquared]

54. The AG sets the tone.

I fear a lack of will at the DOJ leadership.

[gopiscrap]

69. welcome to DU

[CentralMass]

67. Unless I'm mistaken he is planning another presidential run in 2024.

[Aussie105]

61. Whittle away at the edges of a disease

and you eventually get to the core of it.

Those talking will reveal the symptoms of the disease, only deeper investigation will find the cause of the disease.

The cause in this case of course, will be TFG.

Slowly, slowly, and with great precision, we will get there.

Patience!