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Decent people aren't outraged enough. (Original Post) SoonerPride May 2022 OP
We are outraged, but we are exhausted Walleye May 2022 #1
We are. But DU is a small community. SoonerPride May 2022 #2
You don't think decent people outside of DU are also exhausted? Ms. Toad May 2022 #23
Oh fuck that noise. There is actually a DUer who insists that, unless the rest of us stage Scrivener7 May 2022 #3
Responsible gun owner is an oxymoron. SoonerPride May 2022 #5
No..there are lots of Americans who use guns for hunting and target shooting and they are PortTack May 2022 #6
Their purchase of guns and ammunition funds gun companies who lobby Congress. SoonerPride May 2022 #7
If I had a hobby which involved the slaughter of children, I'd find a new hobby. Irish_Dem May 2022 #12
And y'all have teamed with the NRA to make the gun lobby untouchable. So it is up to YOU Scrivener7 May 2022 #22
I would say decent republicans aren't outraged enough. CrispyQ May 2022 #4
Bullshit. The vast majority of Americans have KPN May 2022 #8
There needs to be some charismatic leadership. usonian May 2022 #9
The answer is in your use of the word "decent". hamsterjill May 2022 #10
"Decent" people like most of us, currently the majority in US are outraged. LakeArenal May 2022 #11
Especially in Texas. hamsterjill May 2022 #17
My mom was from Texas. The whole family was mean spirited. LakeArenal May 2022 #18
Has it inthewind21 May 2022 #20
Put the word "enough" in front of your sentence. Ferrets are Cool May 2022 #13
yes, that is a good idea. SoonerPride May 2022 #15
We are no different than the Germans in WWII and current Russians. Irish_Dem May 2022 #14
Where are the so-called religious "right - to -lifers?" Crickets. lindysalsagal May 2022 #16
I know this sounds simplistic to many: LakeArenal May 2022 #19
+19 SoonerPride May 2022 #21

Ms. Toad

(33,723 posts)
23. You don't think decent people outside of DU are also exhausted?
Sat May 28, 2022, 11:11 AM
May 2022

Every decent person I know is exhausted.

Scrivener7

(50,261 posts)
3. Oh fuck that noise. There is actually a DUer who insists that, unless the rest of us stage
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:37 AM
May 2022

hunger strikes, the gun humpers among us don't have any responsibility to do anything.

Bullshit. This blood is on the hands of "responsible gun owners" everywhere. Not on the rest of us.

It is not "decent people" who need to be out in the streets. It is all those "respectable gun owners." They have financed the NRA, they have fought for their libertehs, they have bribed politicians for a generation. And they won. And now they have what they fought for, and there is little the rest of us can do about it.

The only ones who can change this are the "respectable gun owners" who don't want the blood on their hands anymore from the massacres that result from their hobby.

This is not on my head. This is on the heads of the people parsing terminology when a massacre happens. This is on the people who attend the gun shows and financially support the sale of guns. This is on the people who spend thousands on gun after gun after gun because they think it's cool, thereby making the gun manufacturers a financial juggernaut that has the money to buy law that keep the money pouring in.

So, "responsible gun owners," you broke this. You bought it. Now fix it. Because those babies' blood is on YOUR hands. No one else's.

PortTack

(32,102 posts)
6. No..there are lots of Americans who use guns for hunting and target shooting and they are
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:01 AM
May 2022

Very responsible!

SoonerPride

(12,286 posts)
7. Their purchase of guns and ammunition funds gun companies who lobby Congress.
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:10 AM
May 2022

So they are responsible.

Responsible for continuing the madness that the gun lobby exerts on our laws.





Scrivener7

(50,261 posts)
22. And y'all have teamed with the NRA to make the gun lobby untouchable. So it is up to YOU
Sat May 28, 2022, 11:08 AM
May 2022

"responsible gun owners" to uncouple yourselves from the NRA, or to make a stink and make changes from inside your lobby.

YOU are the only ones who can change this, and if you don't, you are nothing but complicit with this lobby YOU have created as it continues to cause slaughter after slaughter after slaughter.

CrispyQ

(35,909 posts)
4. I would say decent republicans aren't outraged enough.
Wed May 25, 2022, 09:38 AM
May 2022

But then I have to ask, can a person be decent & support the Republican Party? IDK.

KPN

(15,524 posts)
8. Bullshit. The vast majority of Americans have
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:29 AM
May 2022

been outraged for 15 years or so now. A vast majority of Americans favor rational gun controls. Our political system is broke. And that IS something that not enough “decent” people are outraged about. So we flail and flounder.

usonian

(9,065 posts)
9. There needs to be some charismatic leadership.
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:30 AM
May 2022

Like Dr. King, JFK, RFK, others ...

Oops, all gunned down.



hamsterjill

(15,164 posts)
10. The answer is in your use of the word "decent".
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:40 AM
May 2022

There are decent people, and a lot of us. But there are more who are not decent. It really boils down to that concept.

Decent people think about other people; not just themselves.
Decent people see beyond their own circumstances; not just what impacts their pocketbooks and inconveniences;
Decent people want to help other people; not step on someone who is down because they can.

I guarantee you that as much as I may disagree with some posters here on DU, the great majority of people here ARE decent people, or they wouldn't be here.

But it's the idiots in the real world, outside, who don't have to account to anyone when they don't want to be decent. They have no shame. We all know them. We all have to deal with them. How do we make them into decent people?

LakeArenal

(28,570 posts)
11. "Decent" people like most of us, currently the majority in US are outraged.
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:44 AM
May 2022

But the “will of the people” has been subverted by outrageous Republican destruction of Democracy.

hamsterjill

(15,164 posts)
17. Especially in Texas.
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:44 AM
May 2022

I am a lifelong Texan and grew up in Uvalde County. There is currently an attorney that I know personally in Uvalde County who has insisted for years that Sandy Hook was a hoax. Now, he’s all upset about the shooting in Uvalde. I’m not sure he’s allowed to be upset in my book.

I don’t consider him “decent”. I consider him ignorant.

Yes, the Republican destruction of the “will of the people” is certainly the factor. But the Republicans are winning because the people are not standing up. Do we have to take to the streets? Obviously protests do no good. We can’t out vote them (in Texas at least) because the Republicans cheat.

LakeArenal

(28,570 posts)
18. My mom was from Texas. The whole family was mean spirited.
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:01 PM
May 2022

I also know “decent” Texans are outnumbered by this mean spirit.

 

inthewind21

(4,616 posts)
20. Has it
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:09 PM
May 2022

You make it sound as if congress was stormed and a hostile take over took place. It did not, voters put them ALL there. THAT is what people don't want to acknowledge. And I don't want to hear about dark money, lobbyists, the NRA, the media the evil republicans or anything else. VOTERS are the ones with the power, no matter how much $$$$ is involved. Bottom line, THE VOTERS, as well as non voters, gave us the government we have now. Period!

Irish_Dem

(43,862 posts)
14. We are no different than the Germans in WWII and current Russians.
Wed May 25, 2022, 10:49 AM
May 2022

We look the other way while atrocities are committed.

Americans have failed their children.

Ukrainians are fighting to save their country and children.

Why can't we fight as hard as they are?

lindysalsagal

(20,162 posts)
16. Where are the so-called religious "right - to -lifers?" Crickets.
Wed May 25, 2022, 11:02 AM
May 2022

Every church should have anti-gun policies and signage.

LakeArenal

(28,570 posts)
19. I know this sounds simplistic to many:
Wed May 25, 2022, 12:06 PM
May 2022

But we a mass yard sign campaign. We need huge flags that express our opinions. We have to stop being scared of or maga neighbors

We need bill boards and chalk protests.

We need bake sales for change.

We need tshirts and tattoos.

Rummage sales for the poor

We need to be in our church newsletters.

Media is never going to help so we need to be much more obvious to what we feel is right.

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