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"I'm Going To Shoot An Elementary School" (Original Post) SoCalDavidS May 2022 OP
Some reports said police were in hot pursuit bucolic_frolic May 2022 #1
The hotness of the pursuit was obviously exaggerated. dchill May 2022 #3
Yeah, I guess so! /nt bucolic_frolic May 2022 #4
That's What I'd Like To See Them Explain..... global1 May 2022 #6
There was some report bucolic_frolic May 2022 #7
He shot his grandmother in the face. milestogo May 2022 #2
An angry, suicidal, alienated adolescent male. maxsolomon May 2022 #14
This message was self-deleted by its author maxsolomon May 2022 #17
Obviously an armed gunner, all other explanations are add-ons not excuses for ignoring guns sanatanadharma May 2022 #19
Off to greatest with you! NT raccoon May 2022 #5
It was not posted publicly, it was a private message thru FB Nevilledog May 2022 #8
A very important distinction, thanks for clarifying (nt) Hugh_Lebowski May 2022 #10
Wonder if FB sent the message to the area police uponit7771 May 2022 #13
Doubt it. Very unlikely. Nevilledog May 2022 #16
Bad information Chernevog May 2022 #9
Or maybe your information is bad? Hugh_Lebowski May 2022 #11
I heard that on tv XanaDUer2 May 2022 #12
BBC Chernevog May 2022 #15
So you're just gonna ignore his messages on FB? Nevilledog May 2022 #18
The story/truth at the moment? keithbvadu2 May 2022 #20

bucolic_frolic

(43,311 posts)
1. Some reports said police were in hot pursuit
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:07 PM
May 2022

but it's not been made clear how he escaped their pursuit, crashed his car, and ran to the school.

global1

(25,272 posts)
6. That's What I'd Like To See Them Explain.....
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:10 PM
May 2022

Also - am I being too suspicious - that he would actually post that he was on his way to shoot up an elementary school. That's seems to convenient to me that he would say that. What was his beef with elementary school students? What's the connection there?

Just asking?

bucolic_frolic

(43,311 posts)
7. There was some report
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:12 PM
May 2022

that high school graduates in that town would go to elementary school graduations and high five the younguns when they graduated, and this loser failed to graduate high school. So he was angry?

maxsolomon

(33,400 posts)
14. An angry, suicidal, alienated adolescent male.
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:24 PM
May 2022

There are a lot of them in our sorry Rampage History.

1st, kill your parent/guardian. Now you have nothing to live for but infamy.

2 off the top of my head: Adam Lanza, Kip Kinkel.

Response to milestogo (Reply #2)

sanatanadharma

(3,736 posts)
19. Obviously an armed gunner, all other explanations are add-ons not excuses for ignoring guns
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:58 PM
May 2022

Multiple reasons, causes, psychologies, pathologies, desires, egos, voices in the head; none of that matters when the gun in the hand is the one and only common element in all shootings.

Ignoring the carnage of gun is like ignoring the carnage of penis because the binding desire is too personal.


Nevilledog

(51,202 posts)
8. It was not posted publicly, it was a private message thru FB
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:14 PM
May 2022


Tweet text:
Ellie Hall
@ellievhall
A Meta spokesperson confirms in the replies to this tweet that Uvalde shooter Salvador Ramos DID NOT POST THESE MESSAGES PUBLICLY.

He sent them to another user via Facebook Messenger and, per Meta, they were only discovered after the shooting happened.

Brandon Wall
@Walldo
Texas Gov. Abbott says the only "meaningful forewarning" of the Uvalde schooting was on Facebook about 30 minutes before.

First post "I'm going to shoot my grandmother”

Second post "I shot my grandmother"

Third post "I'm going to shoot an elementary school"
11:30 AM · May 25, 2022

Nevilledog

(51,202 posts)
16. Doubt it. Very unlikely.
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:26 PM
May 2022

FB said it wasn't "discovered" until after the shooting.

I believe the shooting was only like 30 minutes after the posts. How would it even be possible for FB to monitor every private message and act on reporting it?

Chernevog

(31 posts)
9. Bad information
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:17 PM
May 2022

I understand he was actually heading to his own high school where he had been bullied before he graduated he was so out of control that he crashed his own car in front of the elementary school. People came up to the car thinking somebody was hurt and tried to help them and he came out guns blazing.

XanaDUer2

(10,754 posts)
12. I heard that on tv
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:22 PM
May 2022

But I don't have a link. Maybe it's all a part of the swirling information going around.

Chernevog

(31 posts)
15. BBC
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:25 PM
May 2022

"After driving erratically across town, Ramos eventually crashed his car into a ditch near Robb Elementary School. Some bystanders approached the car to offer assistance.

"People thought that he was in trouble and so they jumped out to help him and he came out of his vehicle and started shooting at them," one person told the Spanish language network Telemundo."

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-61577777.amp

Nevilledog

(51,202 posts)
18. So you're just gonna ignore his messages on FB?
Wed May 25, 2022, 03:30 PM
May 2022

You can't use what "other" people thought to infer his actions were spur of the moment.

He said he was going to shoot an elementary school. That's what he did. I don't give any weight to what people "thought" he was doing after he wrecked the car.

keithbvadu2

(36,937 posts)
20. The story/truth at the moment?
Wed May 25, 2022, 04:20 PM
May 2022

The story/truth at the moment?

Many big events have sub-stories floating around almost immediately.

It often takes 3 days (or more) to start getting close to the truth.

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