As there is no "well regulated militia" why can't we can stop the gun madness?

[BSdetect]

[Hugh_Lebowski]

1. Because of the 5-4 Heller Decision

The idea that a reference to 'well-regulated militias' had any actual MEANING WRT the 2A ... was struck down by Fat Tony and 4 other Cons in 2008 in Heller vs DC.

Since that time, they're just random words, rendered meaningless.

[Takket]

6. yeah funny how they think the Constitution is supposed to be taken

literally and nothing is a right unless it says so... except for the 2A. then "well regulated militia" just means civilians can have as many arms as they want.

[Ohioboy]

2. I like this kind of question

The well regulated militia is definitely a big part of why "the right of the people to keep and bear arms, shall not be infringed". After all, it's the first thing mentioned.


"A well regulated Militia, being necessary to the security of a free State, the right of the
people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed'

[Iggo]

3. Gunfuckers won't let us.

[asa4ever]

4. Jefferson - "No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms."

Webster - "Before a standing army can rule, the people must be disarmed, as they are in almost every country in Europe." Richard Henry Lee - "To preserve liberty, it is essential that the whole body always possess arms, and be taught alike, especially when young, how to use them." Patrick Henry - "The great object is every man be armed. Everyone who is able might have a gun." Samuel Adams - The Constitution shall never be construed to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own guns."

[Hugh_Lebowski]

7. So here's the actual quote from Sam Adams

"The said Constitution shall never be construed to authorize Congress to prevent the people of the United States who are peaceable citizens from keeping their own arms."

From Snopes:
The phrase “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms” shows up in a draft of a proposed Virginia constitution in 1776. Subsequent drafts included the bracketed qualifier that “No free man shall ever be debarred the use of arms [within his own lands or tenements].”

Wonder how many of the rest of them are misquotes or otherwise bullshit?

[asa4ever]

8. I only saw the first draft.

I am sure if you had found any problems with the other quotes you would have posted them also.

[hack89]

5. Politics plain and simple

Nearly every type of reasonable gun control is perfectly constitutional even post Heller. But politics and the cultural wars make compromise impossible.